No stamina for drugs anymore

[Nas47]

No stamina for life anymore.I got stamina for drugs,but there is no drugs(except speed)and moonshine alc.Psychiatricks wards more looks like meddiavel torture chambers and even a man with small problem gets out of there mentally destroyed.......poor,sick&desperate people in a dying Neverland

 

[SunriseChampion]

Maybe you’ve just “had your fill”?

I'm 38 and, personally, that's what I've found to be the case for me with psychedelics. Did enough to know what's up and feel no need to do more (which isn't to say I don't and wont...just not nearly as often or as much as I used to). It's actually beautiful in how anti-addictive they can be.

Then with stimulants, the older I got the more I heeded the message of how dangerous they could be to the point of paranoia about doing them.

Now, just to show how addictive drinking and smoking are: fucking love em still, though, even with that age is slowing me down which is a VERY good thing.....and with booze I've defo had my fill.

Yeah, if you've ever overdone something, it can wear you down enough that with time you just can't be bothered anymore......and that's probably a good thing.

 

[SunriseChampion]

When you’re in your 20s you can stay out all night, get totally blitzed, come back and crash on someone’s uncomfortable couch that they salvaged from the curb, and feel fine the next day. When you get older, that’s not gonna fly. Comfort is king.

Truth!

Ever since I turnt about 33, I will travel to the ends of the Earth after being up all night just to sleep in my own bed. Used to be a couch somewhere for four hours and feel fresher than a spring rain. Now it's 100$ taxi home at 7 in the morning and a 10 hour sleep, waking up feeling like I hadn't slept at all. Unsustainable and unpleasant.

 

[deficiT]

Truth!

Ever since I turnt about 33, I will travel to the ends of the Earth after being up all night just to sleep in my own bed. Used to be a couch somewhere for four hours and feel fresher than a spring rain. Now it's 100$ taxi home at 7 in the morning and a 10 hour sleep, waking up feeling like I hadn't slept at all. Unsustainable and unpleasant.

My beds a lumpy ass futon, so I tend to take what I can get. As long as it's not a jail cell in solitary I can still deal with it.

 

[SunriseChampion]

My beds a lumpy ass futon, so I tend to take what I can get. As long as it's not a jail cell in solitary I can still deal with it.

Yeah, I probably wouldn't bother with the 100$ taxi rides at 7 am just to end up on a lumpy futon. Fair point.

 

[Opi_Kid_Rock]

Pot in particular usually drains me mentally and probably physically too. LSD is mentally stimulating making the brain process things at a faster rate -for me at least.
I don’t know if it’s just the choice of substance that drains you or not.

 

[G_Chem]

Appreciate these insights. I'm curious what your combos, healthy living and antioxidant factors look like for perfecting the art of rolling. I have a complex health stack myself that varies from day to day, so I know all about self-management. I just don't have my "rolling" legs these days... have to start over from scratch.

I’ve got a thread on here that details my guidelines but some of the important takeaways.. I’ve never dosed more than 200mg in a session (very important). Consume a healthy antioxidant rich diet every day, but especially in the week leading up to and the week after an experience. Consume antioxidant supplements immediately after coming down, and a couple days after. Stay cool during the experience at all costs.

In terms of combos. The MDMA and 5-MAPB combo is gold for the more aged veteran rollers who can’t quite get there anymore with MDMA alone. Thankfully I can still get there with MDMA alone but I know people who took way too much early on, and this gives them a chance to relive the old days.

I almost always combine some psychedelic too, usually LSD or Mescaline. And often use DMT and K on the comedown. I think the neurogenic properties of psychedelics can help negate any possible neurotoxicity from the MDMA.

My favorite combo is…. 20mg 5-MAPB, 2mg d-meth (or 5mg d-amp), 200mg phenibut, 1hit LSD. Wait an hour then take 120mg MDMA, wait an hour then take 60mg MDMA.

-GC

 

[elgoucho9]

Truth!

Ever since I turnt about 33, I will travel to the ends of the Earth after being up all night just to sleep in my own bed. Used to be a couch somewhere for four hours and feel fresher than a spring rain. Now it's 100$ taxi home at 7 in the morning and a 10 hour sleep, waking up feeling like I hadn't slept at all. Unsustainable and unpleasant.

Agree with this. I'm mid 30s and the days of being able to munch 10 mdma tabs or snort multiple grams of coke/mephedrone/speed are long gone.

I still dabble with powder cocaine and occasionally rock but I was myself and even the regret it. Think I'm too old to be putting that strain on my health.

I struggle to any drugs without something for the comedown or hangover next day at this age. Need to have some form of benzos or something for after to feel human the next day. Used to be able to sesh for days.

 

[xtcgrrrl]

I think the neurogenic properties of psychedelics can help negate any possible neurotoxicity from the MDMA.

This is something I’ve often wondered about. I tend to do shrooms the day after doing MDMA and I feel like it helps a bit

 

[skipjames]

I m 40. I used to enjoy cannabis in any form & shape (weed, hash, edibles, whatever) now the thing is like POISON to me. I used to enjoy LSD and psychedelics in general now the very idea of tripping scares the shit out of me ( I guess I could still handle shrooms but it s not worth the risk). My tolerance to booze plummeted, I get drunk faster and my hangovers last longer. From the other side, I can handle opioids and coke better now than when I was younger (maybe because I have access to better products).
I guess that s because I m getting older but also because the rationale behind my drug use has changed . For instance if as a teen -in my early 20´s I used drugs and booze to either open the doors of perception or to overcome my shyness and have sex with anything with a pulse now I use drugs to chill or to get shit done

 

[G_Chem]

This is something I’ve often wondered about. I tend to do shrooms the day after doing MDMA and I feel like it helps a bit

I swear by this. I will always do a tiny bump of K and some DMT at the end of a roll or in the next day or two. This seems to alleviate any potential “Tues blues.” The K is less important than the DMT.

-GC

 

[xtcgrrrl]

I swear by this. I will always do a tiny bump of K and some DMT at the end of a roll or in the next day or two. This seems to alleviate any potential “Tues blues.” The K is less important than the DMT.

-GC

DMT I have. K I have no idea where to obtain

 

[G_Chem]

DMT I have. K I have no idea where to obtain

That can be a good thing. While the K is nice, it can become too easy to use consistently as landing gear for all sorts of things. The DMT is one that gets neurogenesis going.

-GC

 

[xtcgrrrl]

That can be a good thing. While the K is nice, it can become too easy to use consistently as landing gear for all sorts of things. The DMT is one that gets neurogenesis going.

-GC

I mean if I searched hard enough, I could probably find it, I hear it’s very popular in NYC rn but I’m too lazy to put in the effort

Nah, I’m just unmotivated to go find it, got other things going on, besides, when the time is right it’ll come to me that’s always been how it works with me and psychedelics, I’ve never really had to look too hard to find them when I wanted them. It’s just…serendipity.

Like, rn there’s no acid to be had in my area. But then again I’m not searching too hard because if the Trip Gods wanted me to have it I would have it already I’m too old to be doing that thing I did in college when I’d be so desperate to find some that I’d end up getting scammed

 

[paranoid android]

Sounds like me with alcohol. These days if i even drink 12 beers im fucking exhausted the next day. Back when i was 20 i could pound back drinks all night then go to work but at 41 no way could i do that

 

[jasperkent]

Lifelong alcoholic and serial poly-drug addict here. For me nothing changed at 30. Nor 40.

But something happened at 50-- and got worse at 60. More side effects, withdrawals got more severe, recovery times got longer. Also, my desire to push the envelope lessened greatly.

At 64 I'm not drinking and rarely do hard drugs (and take less if I do). I only trip about once a year. I maintain a moderate kratom habit and eat a gummy or two every evening. I still drink insane amounts of coffee and my worst habit is cigarettes.

I no longer have the desire to get obliterated or stay up for days or explore crazy new dimensions. Two of my favorite activities are lying down for a good night's sleep and waking up feeling rested.

Sounds boring maybe but I always wake up in my own bed. It's cheap, too.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

when the time is right it’ll come to me that’s always been how it works with me and psychedelics,

Exactly so for me as well. Without elaborating, it just happened to me again recently.

 

[jasperkent]

My tolerance to booze plummeted, I get drunk faster and my hangovers last longer.

Is your tolerance down because you rarely drink or did it just happen? If it's the latter you might want to get your liver tested. Not trying to scare you, but when alcohol tolerance goes down it can be a sign of liver damage.

Liver Function Tests: MedlinePlus Medical Test

Liver function tests are blood tests that measure different enzymes, proteins, and other substances made by the liver. Abnormal levels of any of these substances can be a sign of liver disease. Learn more.

medlineplus.gov

 

[xaddictx]

62 here but I certainly dont feel or look it. As they say, age is but a number Anyway, weed doesn't do it for me anymore. Just makes me paranoid with anxiety. I'd have to have a few beers in me to somewhat enjoy it. Meth or coke? No fkn way. I'd probably wind up in a hospital or 6 feet under.

 

[ketquest]

All veterans here having the exact same experiences hehe... I am on the same boat, even though I still enjoy the drugs from time to time, the usage hiatus are bigger and bigger, and sometimes I easily talk myself out of some binge because I know the price I will have to pay the next day or days...

I think it's just the body getting older and not regenerating like Wolverine when you were on your 20s, like people mentioned here, at that time you could go out every night if you wanted to, get wasted on booze, coke, pills, whatever, get home 8,10am and sleep for a couple of hours and wake up 100% rested and ready for the next party. Shit... Even if I drink 6 cans of beers nowadays it already gives me a hangover, I am 41.

I used to be a classic stoner from 15 to 19yo or so, then I dropped it, it became really bad, being stoned just made me paranoid and feeling like shit, never smoked again after that, I think that the only occasion where some puffs will make me feel good is when MDMA is starting to comedown from the peak. Other than that, I even hate the smell of weed.

I used to use psychedelics heavy, mainly shrooms then ketamine, then just grew out of them, don't have the willpower to endure trips to other dimensions anymore.

I used to love MDMA, but nowadays I just get underwhelming rolls and very very nasty comedowns, specially the day after I will be total trash, zombie state, depressed, mouth all sore... horrible. I probably felt the same thing when I was younger but just didn't care or I was able to endure it easily.

The only drug that still hits me like always did is coke, but it also has it's toll... Fucks up all your nose, I get a clogged puffy nose for weeks. And if I don't stop doing it early I won't sleep, which will ruin my next day.


In a nutshell I think that the fact of the older body not regenerating as fast as the younger body (worst and worst and longer hangovers), and the fact that all of us here abused drugs several times way more than a "normal person" would (Crazy nights, crazy benders, etc...) meaning "been there, done all that already lots of times" contribute to "not having the stamina for drugs" anymore.

I think I have partied enough for 3 lifetimes, seriously... I wasted my whole 20s with only parties and drugs, and I Really regret it now having wasted a decade of my life not going anywhere. I wish I were where I am today, but 10 years ago...