No kids, no dogs

Isn’t that what immigration is for? Who in their right mind would have one? I don’t see the appeal of babies and toddlers.

They’re disgusting and selfish. They stink. Their breath smells like sour milk. They spew foul liquids from every orifice. Kaka, snot, vomit, ear goo, pee, and some thigns I don’t even know about. They make awful sounds. They’re ugly and look like aliens.

Today is Armistice Day, and most stores and cafés are closed. Only the big chain stores like Starbucks are open. I needed to get out of my tiny flat and work somewhere else for a while.

I was horrified to see a badly behaved double family bring in double sets of babies and toddlers to Starbucks today. They took over the store and acted like they owned it the instant they walked in. They gathered up every empty table and chair and blocked the room with themselves, the misplaced furniture, their luggage, and strollers. This forced everyone else to dodge them and resulted in a lot of people bumping into each other to avoid them.

Tweeker skinny and hyperactive, the blond mother looked batsh1t crazy. Her eyes so wide you could see all the way around the iris. her clothes were half thrown on. Sweatpants, socks and shoes that did not match, greasy blond hair in a kerchief and running around all frazzled as the toddlers ran around the store screaming and flinging the whipped cream off their mochas at each other. The baby in the baby wheelchair emitted a mindless howl every couple of minutes. The blond mother gave nasty glares at anybody who looked even mildly annoyed. The brown haired mother ignored held another baby and ignored the toddlers.

What was even more mind-boggling is that some guy said they were cute. No. Kittens are cute. Puppies are cute. Your spawn are monsters. And the fathers were standing gossiping to each other with their black lab they had brought into the store. Even the dog was misbehaving and running around the store. They did not attempt to discipline their children. Their voices were loud to give them away as British tourists. What was even more messed up was taht they had a black nanny with them to help, but she was just as useless as the fathers. She seemed more like just another status symbol and accessory for the parents.

All I wanted to do was work in a place that was reasonably normal for a busy café, which I can usually do for hours at Starbucks, but it wasn't possible today.
 
I used to think the same but once I fell properly in love I found the babba thing completely appealing.

After all those little things that do all of those indescribable things will end up looking after those that spawned it.

Anyways what I'm really trying to say is it is all to do with perspective................if it were your own children that you were viewing you wouldn't find them so detestable believe me.

And amongst all of the puke, kaka and bad tempered-ness your kids learn to look after you (HA ha!).
- no I mean that there are so many special and wonderful things that you experience especially when they are yours and more so if they are with someone who's your soul mate.
 
What made you change your mind? Not every parent bonds, and some people are not baby people, even if they learn to like their children a few years later. For the record, my mother had a mental illness and did not want me, not even when I was a baby. She never formed a bond with me. I had to cut off contact with her after college.

I love kittens and puppies. The fact that they can be potty-trained and care for themselves a couple of months after birth eliminates the grossness factor. Sloths, pandas, koalas, and even piglets are cute too, but babies never appealed to me.
 
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Like I said I felt exactly the same as you and just coz your mother had maternal issues that doesn't mean you'll experience it too.

What changed my mind was finding my soul mate and falling madly in love and then and only then did the thought of having children made sense.
It's such a beautiful thing to do and experience so long as you are really with your soulmate, creating life together that is a combination of the two that make the whole.

I know that probably sounds sloppy but it is my experience and I'm pleased that my stance on the kid issue changed because of what I've experienced having them. <3
 
Finding your soul mate changes your brain chemistry and rewires your brain. Serotonin, oxytocin, dopamine, and endorphins flood the pleasure circuits of your brain. The nucleus accumbens and ventral tegmental area form new connects with other brain areas. It makes sense that could trigger changes in attitudes.

Quiet, respectful, and well behaved children don't bother me. Other families were in and out today, but they were normal and behaved. On the other hand, this double family was like a traveling circus. Bad parents who are unwilling or unable to tend their children and teach them discipline make me mad.
 
Believe me they still do PIG STYLEE but no where near as much as they used to!! Live and let live is my philosophy these days ...........I'm getting old man!!!
 
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Quiet, respectful, and well behaved children don't bother me. Other families were in and out today, but they were normal and behaved. On the other hand, this double family was like a traveling circus. Bad parents who are unwilling or unable to tend their children and teach them discipline make me mad.

THIS! ^ I'm a mom (one child) and I never let her screech and "run wild" at stores, restaurants, grocery stores, bookstores, etc. No temper tantrums at grocery line demanding candy. I never yelled or spanked. She just learned that's how we operate.

I totally hear you above. My daughter is a teen now and she feels the same. lol
 
Not that it's relevant but as a mother of four, I often say, "I am never having kids..."

It's worth it just to see the look on their faces.
 
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