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no feelings on suboxone??

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Jdaddy24

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8o I just wanted to express the feeling that bupe maintenance gives me and see if ne1 else experiences what i do. I would say sub definately stopped my junk habit in its tracks but eversince starting this crap over 8 monthes ago I feel...well....nothing anymore. I am not really happy nor am I sad. i am always neutral. Things I used to crack up at I don'y laugh at anymore. I force myself to laugh while I know every1 around me is rolling on the floor:( It has absolutely destroyed my sense of humor as well as my passion 4 life. it is like I just exist with no real passion or rive. Evryday is the same, I never feel excitement.:| FUCK I want to be human again!!! has this shit made any1 else feel non-human??!! I am getting off this shit there is just something about this crap!!
 
Why have you been on Suboxone for so long? When I was on it, I was lucky to have a Dr. that put me on it for 3 weeks, then weaned me off of it. Ask your Dr. to start weaning and maybe that will cure these feelings (or lack thereof).
 
Thats cause sub is an opiate like any other drug, that "non-human" feeling is just how sub affects your receptors. You NEED natural endorphins to enjoy life, otherwise being on sub is just like being on any other opiate imo.
 
I think any opiate is like this if u take it for long enough. opiates have been called the joy killer...

I used to always enjoy mornings where I wasnt sick yet but not high either. That was the only time I felt during the day lol :(
 
Sub had an effect on my no other long term opiate maintenance has ever had on me. At the tail end I felt so apathetic, I didn't care about anything. It was like this low level blurry depression that unfortunately became way to comfortable to deal with. Truth be told I am still pretty emotionally void I did notice some emotions/feelings start to come back but I suppose that is just a consequence of long term opiate use.

I do have about 5 months clean from bupe and things are looking up.

peace.
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Jdaddy24 said:
8o I just wanted to express the feeling that bupe maintenance gives me and see if ne1 else experiences what i do. I would say sub definately stopped my junk habit in its tracks but eversince starting this crap over 8 monthes ago I feel...well....nothing anymore. I am not really happy nor am I sad. i am always neutral. Things I used to crack up at I don'y laugh at anymore. I force myself to laugh while I know every1 around me is rolling on the floor:( It has absolutely destroyed my sense of humor as well as my passion 4 life. it is like I just exist with no real passion or rive. Evryday is the same, I never feel excitement.:| FUCK I want to be human again!!! has this shit made any1 else feel non-human??!! I am getting off this shit there is just something about this crap!!
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I've had difficulty putting it into words myself, but this sounds like my experience with sub throughout the last few years and the reason I don't like being on it. I can especially relate to the loss in sense of humor. That is one specific thing I always notice that happens when I get off opiates, is that once I'm through the WDs and stuff, I laugh sooo much easier and at way more things. I'm a lot more serious on suboxone.

I posted this on another thread not too long ago, but I felt like suboxone took away a percentage of my personality. Not something significant, but it took away that 'spark' I'd have and kind of just made me bland. Sort of like I was still me, but it took away 10% of my personality which just made me....well pretty boring.

I don't really get overly excited or saddened on it, just pass through life. Completely lose my drive to move forward or have any sort of change. I specifically remember last summer when I was kayaking on a gorgeous day with my at the time girlfriend, and I can remember feeling like this SHOULD bring me some happiness, but I was just there, and not experiencing the moment like I should have been. I just was NOT deriving any joy out of what should be a fun time. I had been kayaking before, so this was not just the result of disliking what I was doing.



I don't really have any helpful advice to you. I feel that way on suboxone, but it's fucking hard as hell for me to get clean off of everything and I don't feel interested in anything when I'm WDing, so I'm sort of trapped in my mind and body knowing that I'm dulling out my life. :( It's not a fulfilling way to live. :o :|
 
Carl Landrover said:
I've had difficulty putting it into words myself, but this sounds like my experience with sub throughout the last few years and the reason I don't like being on it. I can especially relate to the loss in sense of humor. That is one specific thing I always notice that happens when I get off opiates, is that once I'm through the WDs and stuff, I laugh sooo much easier and at way more things. I'm a lot more serious on suboxone.

I posted this on another thread not too long ago, but I felt like suboxone took away a percentage of my personality. Not something significant, but it took away that 'spark' I'd have and kind of just made me bland. Sort of like I was still me, but it took away 10% of my personality which just made me....well pretty boring.

I don't really get overly excited or saddened on it, just pass through life. Completely lose my drive to move forward or have any sort of change. I specifically remember last summer when I was kayaking on a gorgeous day with my at the time girlfriend, and I can remember feeling like this SHOULD bring me some happiness, but I was just there, and not experiencing the moment like I should have been. I just was NOT deriving any joy out of what should be a fun time. I had been kayaking before, so this was not just the result of disliking what I was doing.



I don't really have any helpful advice to you. I feel that way on suboxone, but it's fucking hard as hell for me to get clean off of everything and I don't feel interested in anything when I'm WDing, so I'm sort of trapped in my mind and body knowing that I'm dulling out my life. :( It's not a fulfilling way to live. :o :|
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EXACTLY!! You feel just as I do. just passing through life with no interest in anything. I did not really feel this way so much on junk. Suboxone is much different in the way it makes me feel. My Fiance has noticed this too, and I believe I may lose her. Honestly I love her soo much, but I am not upset!!?? I feel as if I may go crazy. Also sub has made me a fucking loner!! i find myself not even answering the phone for friends or family anymore, because I know I have no interest in doing anything. I am going to try 2 get off this shit however I cannot take the time from work. It's a fucking living nightmare!! I guess thats what you get for fucking with the devil. Stay away from opiates kids.
 
Ur clearly not made for suboxone I've been on 2 1/2 years and have felt barley any drop in euphoria or analgesia and its the best opiate I've ever tried from h down to tramadol u should taper off and.get on something else ur doctor reccomends
 
There was a point in my life I truly was completely void of any and all emotion. In fact the only emotion I felt was a minor guilt for not feeling emotion (if you could even call it that, it was more like the knowledge that I should feel guilty).

While I have to admit emotions were dulled for me on suboxone maintenance it was not a complete lack of emotion and humor as you describe. And I was on sub for about a year.

I guess it comes with the territory, and being emotionless is (arguably, as I kinda disagree) probably better than being an addict.

GL.
 
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There was a point in my life I truly was completely void of any and all emotion. In fact the only emotion I felt was a minor guilt for not feeling emotion (if you could even call it that, it was more like the knowledge that I should feel guilty).
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I know exactly what you're saying its a completely hollow type of existence. Thats exactly the beast that opiates throw down on people, luckily it does getter better when you get off eventually.
 
Well, I wasn't on opiates at the time. I used them every once in a while, but was still naive to addiction. I was about 16, my dad had just passed away and I was locked up in juvey. I have felt devoid of emotion since then but never to the extreme that it was then.
 
are you sure it's the drug? life itself has caused me to pretend to laugh and pretend to be normal lol... then again im withdrawing from benzos now.. anyway good luck
 
I feel similarly but I attribute feeling emotionless to my depression, or have done up until now...

I feel very very similar - maybe not to the same extent but I have no interest in doing things. I don't enjoy things, I hardly get excited about anything any more and don't seem to laugh really... I can also relate so powerfully to the comment above 'just passing through life'.

I have however never touched opiates. I've been using a variety of stimulants, pot and alcohol pretty heavily for a couple of years though (up until very very recently anyway).

So I dunno - maybe it's just depression.. ?
 
the term to describe what you feel is anhedonia. it is often a side effect of SSRI medications and definetly buprenorphine. ive been on bupe for years and i totally noticed that i was flat in my affect and emotions after a year. the BIGGEST cause of this is taking TOO MUCH. bupe works better in lower doses for precisely this reason.

what seems to happen, for myself at least, is that the suboxone takes away your cravings somewhat but it doesnt get you high. all addicts want to get high and so you increase the dose hoping it will give you something reminiscent of a buzz. alas, it does not. we are so fucking hedonistic though that we keep trying for it and compulsivley take more and/or more often. you end up taking way more than you should and being blunted as a result.

dr.s also prescribe way more than is needed. for maintenance anything over 4mg is generally guaranteed to cause anhedonia. ymmv.
 
No feelings on suboxone?

Hi. I've been on suboxone for 2 years and 4 mgs. a day is my highest dosage. A few months ago I was admitted into the hospital for detox from suboxone (I was at 2 mgs a day). I was in the hospital for 11 days and it was the worst experience in my life. I felt so scared and sick and felt like I was dying. I came home and tried so hard to stay off of it but I felt like I just couldn't stand one more day so slowly I started taking it again. How dumb is that? I just had so much anxiety and depression that I was actually thinking about killing myself. If I would have started to feel better or feel things again like joy I might have been able to do it but I didn't feel like I was getting any better. I am so tired of living but not feeling. I used to love music and now I barely listen to it. I don't think other opiates like hydrocodone make you lose interest in everything. I've never been addicted to an opiate. My doctor put me on this for depression/anxiety and said my opiate receptor's were not working properly. I would do anything to go back to the day he prescribed it to me. I can't get off this stuff because I'm so afraid but yet it's ruining my life. I feel like if I had some hydrocodone to take for a few weeks that I could get off this suboxone but there's no way to get it. I took hydrocodone for migraines a few times and it made me feel good. I do not think suboxone is the same as hydrocodone. I have a cousin who takes 1 hydrocodone a day for headaches, etc but that's it and if I could do that maybe I could get off this nightmare drug. What would it hurt to try? I would just end up back on suboxone if it didn't work. I should have looked into suboxone more before taking it for so long. I got off of it once and I think I was on it for about 9 months. All I did was take half a pill away every 3-4 days and I was back to normal. I remember how wonderful it was to feel again but I was stupid and went back on it because of family problems. My Dad was very ill and I needed to help him and my Mom. My Dad passed away a year ago and I miss him so very much. He wanted me off this stuff too and I promised him I would get off of it. No one knows that I am taking this except my doctor. I really do not know what is going to happen to me but I know I do not want to go through the rest of my life like this. I am wasting so much precious time and I have two beautiful grown daughter's who mean the world to me and a wonderful husband, mother and family who love me very much but would be so disappointed if they knew I was back on this stuff. I wish now that I would have rode it out because I may have been back to my old self by now. I just don't know if I can start all over again with that horrific detox and what would my family think if they saw me sick again? What a nightmare and mess I have created. Reading so many of your posts makes me feel like I am not alone so thank you for posting. I wish anyone who is going through this the very best! Sincerely, Larsy1566
 
I have this exact same problem except I don't even take sub anymore.
I think it has more to do with the aftermath of opiate dependency.
 
I feel the same way.

Carl Landrover, you put it perfectly and it makes me feel sad. (well I guess that's feeling something)

I've lost most of my spark, life isn't as interesting....maybe not as many downs but definitely not as many highs.
 
Dam i take about 4-8mgs of sub a day and dont feel like this at all. I have plenty of emotions!!!

But im also been very emotionally person my whole life.. it does mellow them out a bit... but dam i feel like a dam girl with my emotions
 
I found that a lot of my emotions came back when I went onto subs, but wow do they come back in full force when you're off of them. Especially the acute withdrawals, you can laugh yourself to tears one minute and then be crying for real the next. After going through WD, the emotions start to balance themselves back to natural, and it's great.

People take opiates because the drug takes away their negative emotions, but they also take away your positive ones as well. This is hard for an addict to understand because being high easily makes you forget that you don't have the actual tear-jerking happiness ability.
 
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