NN-DMT some encouragement and advice please.

[webbykevin]

Ok I need some feedback from you elf spice lovers out there.

NN-DMT has been impossible to find for years, I just never ever seemed to be able to come across it anywhere, but finally after a couple of decades hoping one day to get hold of some a friend gifted me a bit, it's pure slightly orangy white crystals, excellent trustworthy source and guaranteed to be clean pure and the real deal.

So here is the quandry I am in, I have been a confident high dose traveller on many compounds for years, never had a problem with anything, love LSD and Mushrooms and have plenty of milage under my belt, I always try and treat psychedelics with reverance and respect and don't use them for partying or recreaction but as part of a deeper spiritual path and as a compliment to meditation, mindfullness and a clear and honest investigation of the self.

But this precious little amount of the sacred spice, the spirit molecule, I have not been able to get up the courage to try it, which is crazy, I have been longing for the chance to experience it for so long, was so thrilled to finally get some, but everytime I take out the bag and get ready to do it I chicken out, which is very strange and very unlike me.

So what the hell is going on ?, why does it never seem the right time to do it ?, I don't know if it's intuition that the time has not been right yet or if it's just plain old fear, it feels like a combo of both those things but I am struggling to understand what is going on here.

I think it's the depth of the immersion that is scaring me off, but that is crazy, I love these experiences, have had ego death and deep deep tryptamine journeys with psilocibin and loved it, have been cleaned out, healed and awakened on many levels. So why am I such a bloody wimp when it comes to NN-DMT now I really have the chance to try it ?, like Terence Mckenna said "The doorway to hyperspace is 3 tokes away" but now the doorway is right in front of me I just cant pluck up the courage to open it.

It's most peculiar and I would appreciate some input and advice please.

Thanks guys.

 

[SONN]

I think you should do something real satisfying then just take the plunge and do it. I've never had the chance to try DMT yet but if I had I would probably prepare my set and setting as much as possible.

 

[TangerinO]

Having recently just started my DMT journeys, all I can say is NOTHING can prepare you, so you just have to do it. You will smoke it and wonder if it's working, then something completely ineffable will happen, it may seem like a single moment or a million years, but you'll be back wondering what the hell just happened before you know it.

So you feel a little nervous about doing it, not a big deal man, you should be, DMT is serious business. I was terrified the first few times I did it, to the point where I actually was shaking for about an hour before hand.
I can't wait to go back and try and confront what I saw again, but I'm still somewhat nervous about smoking it again. My point is it's a totally normal reaction.

However in keep in mind it's also chemically very similar to mushrooms which you have professed to have had many good times with.
You seem to have a good background with psychs, and you've got some. Just go for it man.

If I were you, my biggest concern would be wasting that dose you have, it took me a few tries to get even close to the desired effects. It's not exactly the easiest substance to smoke.

 

[RobotRipping]

^ i agree

just smoke the DMT, you've built it up in your mind as a holy grail or something; high dose mushroom trips scare me more than DMT will. It's like being at the top of a rollercoaster ride, you're not getting out, you can scream but ultimately you're going to go flying down without any control and it's fun, of course DMT is more interesting but i feel the same applies. and yes be careful to not waste the dose, if you only have a small amount i wouldn't smoke it.

It took me a couple of tries with DMT to really get the experience, afterwards i had breakthrough doses on mushrooms and 4-aco-dmt that were quite similar to a DMT breakthrough experience. I always get a bit nervous loading a bowl of dmt or salvia or anything that hits that fast and hard but when i'm tripping i'll load up a bong and smoke it no problem.

 

[webbykevin]

^ i agree

just smoke the DMT, you've built it up in your mind as a holy grail or something; high dose mushroom trips scare me more than DMT will. It's like being at the top of a rollercoaster ride, you're not getting out, you can scream but ultimately you're going to go flying down without any control and it's fun, of course DMT is more interesting but i feel the same applies. and yes be careful to not waste the dose, if you only have a small amount i wouldn't smoke it.

It took me a couple of tries with DMT to really get the experience, afterwards i had breakthrough doses on mushrooms and 4-aco-dmt that were quite similar to a DMT breakthrough experience. I always get a bit nervous loading a bowl of dmt or salvia or anything that hits that fast and hard but when i'm tripping i'll load up a bong and smoke it no problem.

Yeh I thought that I would be able to do it at the peak of a mushroom wave but when the time came it seemed just too much to add to the situation lol.

I'm sure the time will come real soon, just need to take that leap I guess

 

[Ismene]

Try taking it orally - that way it's a lot more like an enhanced, massively psychedelic mushroom trip and you have time to adapt to the experience. Smoking is just up and down in a minute.

 

[webbykevin]

Try taking it orally - that way it's a lot more like an enhanced, massively psychedelic mushroom trip and you have time to adapt to the experience. Smoking is just up and down in a minute.

Interesting idea, i never thought of doing that, i guess i would need an maoi to make it orally active but have not come across any info on doing the crystals that way.

I have some Peganum harmala Seeds but only about 1 gram of them, I also have a Banisteriopsis caapi vine growing but it's not very big yet and i was kinda saving that for an Ayahuasca brew one day, I recently got a small Psychotria viridis plant and was planning to let both these plants mature before chopping into them.

Would 1 gram of the harmala be enough ? if not what other mao would be good (sorry moderators, this hopefully doesn't break the "what should I take ?" rule, if it does please mod the post.).

what about snorting it in a line, has anyone done this and if so does it cross the blood brain barrier
without the mao ?

thanks to all that have replied so far.

 

[blondin]

Go to a site called DMT Nexus everything youve ever wanted to know about spice is there. Yiou didnt say how much you have but when i started smoking it i tried small bits working my wayy up ... one good toke will give you the most amazing fractals, colours ect (eyes closed) eyes open its like shrooms with shimmering carpets and wobbly things. It takes aboutt 3 good tokes to take you to oblivion or 'breakthrough' and is actually quite hard to achieve as you need to hold in the smoke for 15-20 seconds so even after the 1st one it gets tricky.

 

[Flickering]

It sounds like you just have proper respect for the substance. Better to overestimate it than to underestimate it. I've never taken DMT before but when the day comes, it will be with a small dose, of about 20mg. This sub-threshold experience should give you a taste of things to come without completely blasting you into hyperspace. Maybe think about trying that.

 

[malakaix]

^ i agree

just smoke the DMT, you've built it up in your mind as a holy grail or something;

This is most likely whats happening, all you can really do is 'jump in' so to speak. It's not easy i know, im currently struggling to work up the courage to go travel overseas on my own, the scenario may be different but the same fundamental fear arises.. the fear of the unknown, uncertainty, not knowing the outcome. And you may just realize if you end up trying DMT that you really do know nothing, and then you see there was nothing to understand to begin with, and all that fear was just resistance to nothing.

I've read some of your posts webbykevin and you seem rather informed on meditation and the nature of the mind, i think if you do go ahead with this you WILL get a lot out of it. If i had to describe it in simple terms it's like 'going home', the journey there may be a bit rough and scary but when you finally get there you can just let go, kick your feet up, relax and bask in your being.

 

[Ismene]

Would 1 gram of the harmala be enough ? if not what other mao would be good.

Moclobemide. Trade name aurorix. Least nauseating of all the MAOI's. Quite cheap too.

what about snorting it in a line, has anyone done this and if so does it cross the blood brain barrier
without the mao ?

Wouldn't reccomend it - I snorted the freebase once and was left with two savage alkaline burns under each nostril. Very unpleasant.

 

[thevines2]

smoking dmt was the best choice i ever made in my life it changed everything