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Nice Codeine Megathread

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I've mostly been using naproxen (in conjunction with omeprazole) when it's bad and OTC aspirin/paracetamol/ibuprofen when less bad. I still appreciate my codeine/co-codamols when I get 'em (DHC from now on though hopefully =D) but they don't last long. Gonna try to only take 'em when really necessary once I start on the DHC and also try to make good use of the non-drug treatments being suggested.

In your situation a break from the opies probably would be best. If you can tolerate the NSAIDs with the addition of omeprazole that would maybe be a better option for now. I cannot take naproxen at all without the omeprazole but with it I've had zero problems. And that's with a decidely iffy tum at the best of times :)
 
I bought this Galpharm Hayfever tabs they're Centirizine hydrochloride, how many of these am i taking it says on the box take half a tab 2 times a day
 
Did a 450 mg dose and smoked 2 bowls of kush, feeling very nice. :) i never scratch that much anyway if im stoned
 
Last night I took 10 30mg codeine phosphate washed down with some allerelief felt a bit sick smoked a couple of jays and felt completely wired for about 3 hours then when I woke up felt fucked is this normal?...was it the weed?was it my state of mind? Had a shitty day.....new to taking opies for recreation though I can hammer dhc and they're lovely.....wtf!!
 
^Dyou mean you felt fucked as in you still felt high or you felt sick?

If it's the latter - it's pretty common to feel off the next day when you're relatively new to opiates. I used to get horrible opiate hangovers (especially from codeine) although the bigger the habit the smaller they seemed to get, but yeah, nothing to worry about.
 
Felt fucked as in gouchy but didn't need that type of buzz when I woke up I know what you mean about the hangover I get that too....it was just the wired uppy buzz totally threw me.
 
I sometimes feel remnants of codeine into the next day actually. Specifically when my tolerance is low and I've just picked up my script. Some find it very brief but has always had pretty long legs for me when not using regularly. And the wired thing is also completely normal - codeine is one of the stimulating opies. Usually feel a bit wired, chatty and generally "up" for the first 3-4h and then chilled, mongy and maybe even slightly noddy for the next few hours. At the right dose with little or no tolerance anyway. Maybe take this into consideration when taking codeine - take it a bit earlier in the day, perhaps. But ya, residual effects into the next day are certainly a possibility. So maybe not on a school night if that's a problem for you.
 
You must be one of the lucky ones then. I have chatted to a few people now who state a good 3-4 hours on codeine. My maximum as an hour and a half. Never any longer. Not tolerance either as it doesn't seem to matter how much time passes and codeine is one drug I do not abuse. I got close to 'starting' a habit a week or two back but seemed easy to just drop it and suffer no ill effects before any problem had chance to manifest. Maybe that's where I'm lucky. Maybe that's the trade off?

Also the 'not on a school night' comment interests me because I wouldn't be too worried carrying a dose over into work. In fact I feel would fine being dosed at work such is the nature of effects on me. Also I know a few people who I have worked with that always seem to have headaches and dose cocodamol throughout the day. These are the 8/500 but they don't realise how reliant they are on them. I also knew a woman who had such a mighty script she would hand the 60/500's out like sweets at work. I'm not condoning this behaviour but it did happen.
 
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Ya, lotsa peeps who get co-co scripts and are not too clued up about the opioid side of things tend to see them as sweeties and are happy to dish 'em out cos they seem to work wonders compared to OTC stuff. I wonder how they'd feel if it were pointed out to them they were essentially junkies and smack dealers? :D

Also, it's very true that people react very differently to codeine - and opies in general really. I've always been unusually sensitive to codeine - even when I had a gear habit and since coming off it for some reason. In fact my very first taste of opiated bliss was being given two 30mg codeine phosphate pills at work one day and being told to go to the toilets, crush and sniff 'em. Became my best friends instantly. It actually amazes me even now how much effect I got from a piddly 60mg of intranasal codeine. I really did though. Was buzzing me lil nads off for a few hours each time. Obviously things escalated kinda quickly after that though :o

Am presuming it's all down to that enzyme - some have more efficient versions than others.

EDIT: Actually my very first taste of opiated bliss was being given a coupla lines of gear to chase by a junky mate of mine a coupla years earlier. Was pretty much a one-off though - the codeine was when it became accessible and regular.
 
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Also the 'not on a school night' comment interests me because I wouldn't be too worried carrying a dose over into work. In fact I feel would fine being dosed at work such is the nature of effects on me. Also I know a few people who I have worked with that always seem to have headaches and dose cocodamol throughout the day. These are the 8/500 but they don't realise how reliant they are on them. I also knew a woman who had such a mighty script she would hand the 60/500's out like sweets at work. I'm not condoning this behaviour but it did happen.
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Yeah I think that's one of the main problems with codeine/opiates - way too easy to act perfectly normal and function properly on them which just makes it that much harder to limit your use and keep it to the week-ends or whatever.
Well, act normal and function properly to a certain extent. I've had my moments :D
 
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I sometimes feel remnants of codeine into the next day actually. Specifically when my tolerance is low and I've just picked up my script. Some find it very brief but has always had pretty long legs for me when not using regularly. And the wired thing is also completely normal - codeine is one of the stimulating opies. Usually feel a bit wired, chatty and generally "up" for the first 3-4h and then chilled, mongy and maybe even slightly noddy for the next few hours. At the right dose with little or no tolerance anyway. Maybe take this into consideration when taking codeine - take it a bit earlier in the day, perhaps. But ya, residual effects into the next day are certainly a possibility. So maybe not on a school night if that's a problem for you.
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Same here, feel calm as a leaf right now and its not placebo i notice it all the time after doing a big amount the night before.
 
Hi All

I am currently tapering off DHC, I jumped from my oxy habit to DHC last week and are currently down to 750mg DHC a day. I have drawn up a plan for my taper and by next Friday morning plan to be down to 375mg a day. I have enough DHC to last and take my morning dose next Friday, but I will need to order more next week to continue with the taper. I have no rush for this taper, so any advise on speed would be good. I take a drop tomorrow and then another drop on Tuesday.

My question is, I can order DHC for delivery on Friday or I can order codeine tablets. Would you recommend jumping to Codeine next Friday, or continue with DHC for the taper?

Any advise is greatly appreciated

Besty
 
If it were I I'd probably stick with DHC. It's easy enough to taper with DHC alone but could maybe think about switching to codeine for the last stage. Not really necessary though. As for speed of taper, I prefer to take my time. Definitely not dropping every day, but every few days is fine. Gives yer body time to get it's breath between drops and I also find it's less prone to relapsing that way.

Much luck with the taper :)
 
Cheers Shambles

My taper is thus, using 30mg tabs:

.......9am 12pm 3pm 6pm 9pm
Today 5 5 4 4 4
Sat 4 4 4 4 4
Sun 4 4 4 4 4
Mon 4 4 3 3 3
Tues 4 4 3 3 3
Wed 3 3 3 3 3
thur 3 3 3 3 3
Fri 3 3 2 2 2

Would you recommend dropping a dose interval at some stage?

Cheers
 
I would actually. Five doses a day is a tad high for tapering. Nothing outrageous given you're tapering from oxy though. Am not sure whether it would be better to drop down the number of daily doses sooner or later though. It may be worth trying to do so sooner as it will be more noticeable later on when doses are lower though. DHC has a pretty decent half-life so the fewer doses you take a day the better really. It's always the final stages of any taper which are the hardest and if your body is too accustomed to frequent redosing it'll be harder still when you get down to singles.

I'd probably try to skip a redose rather than drop the number per dose if it were I. Maybe go for 4x4 on the Monday? Also might be worth considering taking fewer during the day and saving an extra one for evening to help sleep. Kinda depends on what you do with your day though. But I always found that the lack of sleep really grinds you down after a while and will become more noticeable when doses get lower. Feeling a bit ropey through the day is maybe less of a problem than being up half the night. Does depend on your situation though.

But broadly speaking that looks like a pretty good taper plan to me :)
 
Thats great thanks mate

To be honest the Oxy bit is done, i havent taken that for about a week, and am quite comfortable on the DHC as of yesterday. Wasnt a great week, but that drop has been taken care of relatively well with the DHC.

I will get the weekend done as above, and then take your advice on the Monday and switch to 4 doses.

What I have found personally is teh morning is the worst, obvioulsy due to the time between the evening and morning dose and by teh evening am pretty good, I suppose it builds in your system during teh day

Many thanks buddy
 
Ya, mornings and evenings tend to be the worst. Even if you feel a bit ropey during the day it's usually easier to distract yourself with stuff to keep your mind off of it. Is why I'd tend to go for the main doses in morning and evening and smaller ones during the day. But whatever works for you really. It's honestly not that hard to taper down DHC. Have done it many times. You should be fine but good luck with it anyway :)<3

Oh, and keep us updated. Am sure folks here can offer advice to tailor your taper schedule as you go along if required. Also always nice to get a bit of support in general. Good for the motivation innit.
 
I have always gone cold turkey in the past, as it is usually when I cant get anymore and am left in teh shit. I have now had a guts full of having to dose daily, I had a wedding the other day and obvioulsy took my dose to keep me going and with a few beers on top was hammered!! Need to get off teh dependency on it.

Do you still get a bump of withdrawl at the end when you stop if you taper slowly, or does it sort of fizzle out gently (I hope!!)
 
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