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NEWS: The Australian - 7/2/09 'Amnesty drug bins will be provided at music festivals'

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Amnesty drug bins will be provided at music festivals in West Australia, following the death of Gemma Thoms
February 07, 2009

AMNESTY drug bins will be installed outside West Australian rock concerts, starting with the Rock It music festival next month, following public outcry over the death of a 17-year-old girl who swallowed ecstasy tablets in a panic to avoid detection.

Apprentice hairdresser Gemma Thoms, 17, "cooked from the inside" after taking three ecstasy tablets before entering the Big Day Out at Claremont Showgrounds on Sunday. She took two of the tablets in a panic before entering the festival after worrying police sniffer dogs would detect the drugs.

Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan told The Weekend Australian yesterday he would act on a talkback caller's suggestion to erect "amnesty bins" at similar events, so that festival-goers could get rid of drugs without being prosecuted.

Mr O'Callaghan said he believed Western Australia would be the first state in the nation to implement the bins, which would be introduced in March at the Rock It music festival in Joondalup, in Perth's north.

Mr O'Callaghan, who sings and plays guitar in a pub band called The Filth and is no stranger to rock crowds, couldn't hide his emotions.

"It's an absolute tragedy. She could have dropped them on the ground and even if she had been caught, the most she could have expected was a juvenile caution," Mr O'Callaghan said.

Gemma was a happy and, by all accounts, good-hearted teenager from Perth's Hills, who was thrilled about attending the Big Day Out. Her mother, Peta, bought her a ticket for her birthday in November.

Peta, who does not want her last name published, told the Seven Network: "She reached through the car and gave me a kiss and said, 'I love you, Mum', and I said, 'I love you too, be careful' and she said, 'Don't worry, everything will be fine'."

Peta had every reason to worry. Her daughter was minutes away from swallowing the two ecstasy pills she had in her pocket. It is unknown whether the tablets were for her or her friends.

Gemma had three ecstasy tablets in her system and her friend Cas two. Gemma danced and lapped up the atmosphere and music, but her body temperature was rising steadily from the effect of the drug and the 36C heat.

Shaking and teeth chattering, it wasn't long before Gemma came to the notice of security guards who took her to a first aid post.

She told the St John Ambulance volunteers that she had taken just one dexamphetamine. She was assessed, given water and allowed to leave after being observed for 25 minutes.

The actions of the volunteers have outraged Gemma's stepfather, Paul, a trained paramedic. He is angry that the volunteers did not refer her for proper treatment.

But St John said the volunteers did the right thing and could not have known how many pills Gemma had taken.

The girls' day was further interrupted when Cas was sick and vomited, a known side effect of ecstasy.

Later, quickly dehydrating in the hot sun and with her heart rate dangerously increasing, Gemma went on one of the festival's rides.

About 2.30pm, less than three hours after arriving, she collapsed when her body could no longer cope with the toxic chemicals circulating within it.

Gemma was rushed to hospital but had no chance of survival, according to St John medical director and emergency medicine specialist Garry Wilkes.

"Having paramedics there would have made no difference," he said.

Dr Wilkes said that once the chemicals in the drug had reacted with the body's cells, a cycle began that caused Gemma to heat from the inside, begin to have fits, collapse and lose consciousness.

"Every organ in the body then fails and you're unsaveable," he said.

As Peta later said: "She was cooking, she cooked from the inside."

Perth's talkback radio was dominated by the tragedy this week as parents questioned whether such a calamity could happen to their children and debate raged over the role of the police at the music festival.

The Youth Affairs Council of Western Australia said the police should be ashamed by their "intentional fear tactics".

Mr O'Callaghan would not accept any responsibility for Gemma's death.

Premier Colin Barnett backed him all the way.

"We were there doing a job the community expects us to do," Mr O'Callaghan said.

He said the use of sniffer dogs was part of a harm-minimisation strategy to find drugs festival-goers intended to share with friends.

"One girl had 12 eccies stored in her hair," he said. "We've got no idea about how many of those drugs, if we hadn't have intercepted them, would have been shared with other kids.

"We make no apologies for doing that. We do not accept the blame for Gemma's death."

Mr O'Callaghan said if any good could emerge from the death, it was that the dangers of drug use could be heightened.

Drug educator Paul Dillon, director of Drug and Alcohol Research and Training Australia, said the current messages about the dangers of ecstasy were not getting through.

He said this was one of the reasons why ecstasy use had quadrupled since the late 1980s and was increasing at a time when most other drugs, such as cannabis, were on the decline.

Mr Dillon said the media only focused on ecstasy when someone had died from an overdose but these deaths were rare. While non-users would be scared off the drug from a message that it could kill, for users the message was not credible.

"All the education and messages that go out is that it will kill you," he said. "If that doesn't match up to your own experience, that message lacks credibility and, as a result, they don't listen."

Gemma's friends say she had taken drugs before but was far from a "druggie" and, like her family, are wishing she had been caught before she made the fatal decision to swallow the pills.

The Australian
 
About 2.30pm, less than three hours after arriving, she collapsed when her body could no longer cope with the toxic chemicals circulating within it.


They just cant help themselves can they :X
 
I heard about this on the radio today at work.. im glad.

"One girl had 12 eccies stored in her hair," he said. "We've got no idea about how many of those drugs, if we hadn't have intercepted them, would have been shared with other kids.

Thats pretty impressive.. lol
 
Even though i said it was her fault and she needs to be held responsible, these amnesty bins wich were discussed in the other thread are an absolutely fantastic idea and i support 110% at least something good has come out of this and so quickly i might add.
 
A rare show of good sense, I hope they find their way over to the rest of the country as soon as possible.
 
Install the bins then remove the dogs would be better. Drug detection should not even be a consideration, it is just fattening the wallets of drug dealers.

Poor girl was too afraid to properly inform the first aid staff of the amount and identity of the substance she had.
 
To take the dogs away then the bins would not be used ....

This idea of bins is stupid ...

as if some teenager with XXX amount of dollars worth of drugs is going to throw them away ...

If at an event and the dogs are heading your way just pop 1 or 2 pills and give rest away to your friends or throw them .... SIMPLE ...
 
Do cops go to night clubs too? or how come they only go to big festivals? As if bigtime dealers are gonna go there anyway. Theres no big fish who would risk selling there.
 
No matter how you look at it - The bins are a step forward. If they are utilised correctly then it gives the individual that is freaking out the opportunity to dump their gear before coming into contact with the little sniffing Labrador. The rest of us who run the gauntlet are the ones willing to take the legal hit for the amount we may be carrying. I think anything that provides an escape from punishment other than necking what you have is only but good.

It's a great idea and a massive step forward IMO.


:)
 
i absolutely agree about giving people the oppurtunity to dump there drugs if they are really that concerned but it also gives the police a scape goat in case someone else dies from the same reason its a win on both sides.
 
It is a good idea but nnoone is gonna throw their drugs away otherwise they wouldnt buy them in the first place. I guess some people might use them but I still think this awful tradgedy that has happened could easily happen again. This wasnt happening years ago when there were no or very few dogs and people were still taking just as many drugs and maybe the drug trends have changed but id be sure that in the past the most common drugs would have been speed, coke and maybe even heroin(youd be surprised how many people party with H) so its not like the drugs are getting more dangerous. Next they'll be giving people blood tests before they enter an event 8)

I just think they should get rid of the dogs, I wholeheartedly agree with lagre police presences at these kind of events but the dogs are just not needed.
 
I'd be fine with the dogs if personal use was decriminalized. Under 10 pills/whatever equivelant and your stash is confiscated, maybe a fine. If their intention is to catch the dealers like they always say, then it works perfectly.
 
I agree with it being a good idea. was listening to the radio last week, and yeah thought it was brilliant.
get away no harm done.

better then being charged by the cops.

and they'll walk away with more seized items i think.
 
It is a move in the right direction. However, lets face it, its a shit idea. The reason people dump before going into a festival is so they can still get high without being detected. They could easily dump their shit on the side of the road upon seeing the cops from a distance but they don't.. because they want to get high. Thats why they purchased the fucking drugs ffs. IMO the dumping of multiple pills is for both of those 2 reasons, probably equally.
 

"It's an absolute tragedy. She could have dropped them on the ground and even if she had been caught, the most she could have expected was a juvenile caution," Mr O'Callaghan said.



I was under the impression that being in possession of even one pill can lead to a court appearance?
 
i absolutely agree about giving people the oppurtunity to dump there drugs if they are really that concerned but it also gives the police a scape goat in case someone else dies from the same reason its a win on both sides.

I wouldn't say it's a win on our side.
But it's an improvement.
 
It is a move in the right direction. However, lets face it, its a shit idea. The reason people dump before going into a festival is so they can still get high without being detected. They could easily dump their shit on the side of the road upon seeing the cops from a distance but they don't.. because they want to get high. Thats why they purchased the fucking drugs ffs. IMO the dumping of multiple pills is for both of those 2 reasons, probably equally.


Even so it takes another bit of responsibility away from the organisers of these festivals and concerts and puts it into the user's hands - which is good because they organisers can then say to the public "hey, we've provided amnesty bins, we've provided free water and a medical/chillout tent, we have a number of police patrolling - we think we have gone beyond the call to ensure our patrons are partying in a safe evironment" which might then lead to less calls to cancel events and that kind of thing.

And regardless of whether people that regularly get drugs into these sort of things use them it might in fact offer younger, more apprehensive first timers etc a safer means of ditching them rather than risk throwing a couple of biccies onto the ground and getting busted anyway.

I think it's a good idea.
 
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