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NEWS: The Age 15 Sep 03: Random driver drug tests are on the way (Latest guess Dec 1)

what about people on dex amphetamine, will u need to carry a script with you?
I read on erowid 2c-b wont show up in most tests and lsd is virtually impossible to find so i guess our drug habits might change. people will always drive around off their nut, maybe the government should invest in some late night transport services to counteract this, but then that wouldnt raise any revenew so i guess it will never happen.
 
Cactii: I was mentioning earlier that it supposedly doesn't detect any prescription medicines. Only the presence of Meth Amphetamine, so I wonder if this means it wont detect dexies, or in fact Amphetamine.

Vaguarities... Shall be interesting to see the repercusions.
 
I think people should be tested... they drive over the speed limit and irrisponsibly taking risks, posing danger not just to themselves but also to the passengers and other road users.

Last Saturday morning at 5am my friend had taken 4pills from 12am. U know whats funny, we were in the carpark, and on the forth level in the chinatown parking in Brisbane, as soon as my friend started driving he crashed. We didn't even leave the carpark, he crashed at the exit ramp cause he turned to slow. I was fucking tripping, but decided that i should drive cause i only trust myself with my life. Funnily enough i got back in one piece, slowly but surely. My other friends that were also driving were going over 150kms, and they all had were still buzzing, and rang me up to ask where the fuck i was and to hurry up.
 
^ How about nominating a designated driver who doesn't take drugs...? Your experience sounds very dangerous.

BigTrancer.
 
^ impossible... everyone took something. We had to nominate me, as I was less fucked up 2 drive ( well not really). Speed, e, weed, xanax, valiums, all of these substances were taken, the driver was irrisponsible and i had to carry the risk.

Heres another accident with occured last year, my friends were driving, i was in the range rover watching porn in the back, my other friend was driving the camry, my friend decides to speed up, they start overtaking each other on the freeway. Doing over 170kms, and all of a sudden my friend clips the back end of the camry, both cars spin out and a car from behind missed us (range rover) and hit the camry. Luckily everyone was aight, but to reinforce my stance that people do not think drugs effects their driving, its just a misconception as there are no tests yet.
 
^^^^^
You seem to be on both sides of the fence. While I agree with your stance on the testing, your situation you were in doesn't mesh with it. When you say you were the only one who could drive, that's not true. You may have been the one least trashed, but that doesn't make you the driver by default. If you all have that much stuff then you abandon the cars and get a taxi, or even better don't take your car in the first place. It's situations like you describe which are exactly the reasons these tests are coming in.
 
^ wait a second. We could not take a taxi, it would cost over $120. We could not take the train, as there are guard dogs blocking the entrance. My other friends were really out off it, who knows if we did take these alternatives we could have been stopped by police to be searched, or even arrested.

My point is that i am on both sides of the fence, however I seen what happens, i know its dangerous, but at the same time the government hasn't left us with any other choice. So who knows what will happen when these police impliment these tests, people may be deterred from using, driving, or it could possibly lead to people outrunning cops or taking dangerous risks as they have no option.

BTW will the police powers be widened to allow them to search the car without reasonable suspicion? Also do you think that they will test people that go clubbing, even if their walking? Now that the law are changing, will the penalty be the same as drink driving (won't be defined as intoxication)?
 
^ wait a second. We could not take a taxi, it would cost over $120. We could not take the train, as there are guard dogs blocking the entrance. My other friends were really out off it, who knows if we did take these alternatives we could have been stopped by police to be searched, or even arrested.
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In regards to choices: I'd rather be arrested than killing someone/myself/others in a car accident caused by driving when trashed.

And $120 is cheap (especially split) for the high chance you would crash (which the other person already did). How much will it cost to get the damage to the car repaired (for a start?)
 
If you kill someone in your car while under the influence of drugs, you'll be arrested anyway and probably go to jail for a long time. At least if you catch a train you won't kill someone. A $120 taxi ride is still a choice, despite how unpopular that choice may be.

But if these tests stop people driving in similar situations then I guess I'd have to support them even more.
 
as long as these roadside tests don't flag people as intoxicated when they are anything-but then I'm all for them
 
wazza said:
In regards to choices: I'd rather be arrested than killing someone/myself/others in a car accident caused by driving when trashed.

And $120 is cheap (especially split) for the high chance you would crash (which the other person already did). How much will it cost to get the damage to the car repaired (for a start?)
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Isn't it ironic that if u kill someone while driving, u'll be charged for manslaugter, and will get a couple of years. But get caught with a shit load of drugs and u'll get more than that.

So all in all... i don't think the drug tests will do anything to reduce crash rates, and Pleonastic they will never stop people like me 8).
 
^^^Great attitude that.
Keep participating in easily avoidable risk taking behaviours. Maybe one day you will fuck up and kill or seriously injure someone when driving home under influence of drugs. If that happens just see if you still hold this same bullshit macho attitude.
The police and law making bodies aren't out to make your life as difficult as possible. They are there to make and enforce laws that keep the community safe. Remember that by taking drugs you ARE breaking the LAW. As drug users we seem to get very high and mighty about issues surrounding drug use. Remember what we do is illegal.
The reality is that consuming drugs effects your ability to drive, therefore driving on drugs is dangerous, therefore a stupid behaviour so why do it? Cos your too much of a tight ass to take a taxi or public transport or have a designated driver.
If you have any doubts about the effects of drug driving maybe have a read of this thread http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49487&r=44
Maybe it will change your thoughts about whether its acceptable to drive after consumption of drugs.


Beech out
 
^ it's not my typical attitude. I seldom ever drive while under the influence of drugs (beside weed), my friends do but thats their decision. Neways what i said may have been wrong, i'm sorry for that.
 
erba said:
yeah BT, nice lil machine.... wouldn't mind getting my hands on one.

could be alotta FUN!.............
WHAT! you only registering 85% THC... i got this puppy up to 92%!

keep trying!

bwhahahaha.............. blow a toke into it and watch it register off the hook.
could be a good way to test your weed for THC content.

mung 8 trips and see what it comes back as.................

HAHAHAHAH yes i offically need one of these.
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Just came back to Bluelight to see what you all thought of this issue and I found this post on the first page for the topic. What a moronic and potentially harmful comment to make - it reminds me of exactly why I stopped reading and posting here.
 
Possibly because you have no sense of humour.
There might be other reasons.
But I don't know you.
 
Fuck i hope i live no where near where you're ever at lorenzo_benzo. Driving on drugs is never good. EVER. They impair your judgement and dont even mention concentration. Just dont do it guys its not worth the risk of dieing. And before some smart arse comes on and rambles on about how good he is driving 150 kays off his face take a look in the paper at the road toll. Wake up dudes driving is hell dangerous and is a killer.

fuck in heaven
 
The test are not that sensative, not like a urine test. As far as i know they can detect pot 3-8hrs after use, depending on amount and 24hrs for amphetamines. If you look closey at the press releases from Vic. Pol. they can only detect amphetamines not ecstacy, they are saying it might detect ecstasy ie, if your pill has speed and mdma, the test does not test for mdma. So maybe Dr is the waqy to go, will put a new meaning to testing your pills.
 
Just wondering everyone...

Will the tests be able to detect LSD? also can they detect Kratom, cuz man I love Kratom tea... like My drugs of choice for a Psy rave (which usually happens here) is.... a Hot Flask full of Kratom tea and a cpl of trips... Of course I won drive till Im not seeing funky shit though, however I usually don't have to drive....

Kratom tea :D

Peace
SpecTBK=D
 
Current roadside tests do not detect LSD.

I imagine LSD might very well become the drug of choice for those wishing to evade detection. There have been some recent improvements developed for detection in urine but from memory tests are only good for so long after administration. Cops could give you an impairment test if they thought you were out of it, but how would they make someone piss in a bottle?
 
Seems as if the drug bus has been keeping a very low profile since Summerdayze, a few sightings here and there, but it seems to have stayed away for big parties since NYD. Though there is an event this weekend in Melbourne that you could probably expect to see it at.

I'm kind of hoping the tests will be not be renewed when the legislation lapses. I hope that the initial setback and media publicity surrounding it has scared the state government off and they understand that the lack of public confidence in the accuracy of these tests are a permanant stain on their effectiveness that can't be overcome.

Guess we'll see in a few months.
 
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