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NEWS: Teen dies playing 'choking game' - Brisbane Times

From my own personal experience with nitrous doing bulbs it would be very difficult to get to a point where you do not have enough oxygen going to your brain, usually i find your subconscious will kick in & stop you having another nitrous hit.... Sure its probably doing damage on some extent but my brain still works on some semi functioning level after about 4-5 years of doing nitrous at least once a week! I find the b12 depletion to be more of a bad side effect.

As for this chocking game thing, its been around for many years, i cant see these deaths happening if the topic was touched on a bit more in high school health education/drug education type of things but when the mentality is "drugs are bad, dont do them" then clearly people are going to turn to things like this for a quick high.

Yeah you could be right...I've seen people on bulbs that looked more under the effects of oxygen dep though, after breathing a balloon in and out for ages. This still might not cause brain damage though...I mean, people visiting high altitudes can have pretty low oxygen sats but I'm pretty sure brain damage isn't a concern (unless it's mount everest or something)

This game has definitely been around for a while, I remember kids doing it when I was younger and apparently there's reported cases of deaths going back hundreds of years.
 
Sure you're all gonna hate on me for this.

But I tried this when I was 14, it was in no way to get high. It was purely because I'd heard it could make you faint (I didn't realise at the time that it could kill you) and I didn't think it would work. I only tried it once and it was at highschool against the lockers. I instantly went from feeling normal and like it wasn't working, to passing out and cutting my head on a locker on the fall down. I could not remember falling down at all. All in all a very very stupid thing to do, but the dangers associated with it were completely unknown to us kids at the time. This was before I was drinking or smoked weed, a curious one off.

I wonder how many people still do it? Because at my school alot of kids tried it in a brief two month period and then an assembly was called and they spoke of it potentially killing you.
 
^ I did this shit in high school too embarassingly, stupidly enough being dropped on my head the first time wasn't enough to convince me it was a dumb idea and I did it a second time around a week later :\ No real clue why I did it but I did countless dumb things for a laugh when I was a kid. This was a prevalent thing at my school when I was in year 8 but peoples fascination with it faded very quickly.

I do feel very bad for this girl, it could just as easily of been me or a number of my friends. Busty it is easy to get on your high horse about how people should know better, but have you never made a poor decision in haste that could potentially of resulted in your death? It just seems really fucking cold to me to be saying that type of stuff about a 15 year old girl, I really don't think that 15 years old is old enough to expect you have a reasonable chance of dying after watching a couple of friends do the exact same fucking thing in the last 5 minutes, which if this situation was anything like it was at my school undoubtedly would of been the case.

Logically it seems like a retarded thing to do but when you are 14/15 and see a bunch of other people do it first with literally no harm come to them and then have some peer pressure put on you it can be an easier mistake to make than you might think. I think the peer pressure is another element that is easy to forget what it was like in High School, I am not saying pressure from your mates is an excuse to go do something stupid but in your early to mid teens you do tend to put a lot more weight on what others think of you and in my eyes that immaturity isn't something you deserve to die over. Sure what this girl did was stupid but its still extremely tragic and I am disappointed to see such a lack of empathy or understanding for this girl who died doing something what is probably a lot more normal of a thing to happen than a lot of older posters might think...
 
If Busty enjoys making jokes about a 15 year old girl that died in an unfortunate accident just to get entertainment from other peoples responses, there is something seriously wrong....

How would you feel if one of your children tragically died in a similar situation and grown adults were making comments such as; "One less idiot to grow up and breed".

Not to mention the parents did alot of research through google to find out more about how and why their daughter died which means theres a very good chance they will read this thread
 
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I'm pretty sure Busty actually feeds on people's offence at his comments ;)

This and,

drug_mentor said:
Busty it is easy to get on your high horse about how people should know better, but have you never made a poor decision in haste that could potentially of resulted in your death? It just seems really fucking cold to me to be saying that type of stuff about a 15 year old girl, I really don't think that 15 years old is old enough to expect you have a reasonable chance of dying after watching a couple of friends do the exact same fucking thing in the last 5 minutes

Of course he doesn't remember being 15, Busty's like, ancient ;)
 
what gets me is, you really don't need to strangle yourself to achieve this.

I remember it at school, it was usually a two person affair. But at no point did anyone get strangled - it just involved hyperventilating for about 30 seconds then holding your breath whilst someone pushed on your chest... and you'd like bulb out for little bit, and get up fine. The way it was done, it sounds more like she was trying to hang herself...
 
^ You could do the same thing without another person present by crouching down and hyperventilating, then standing up and blowing on your thumb.

Tragic story.
 
Sure you're all gonna hate on me for this.

But I tried this when I was 14, it was in no way to get high. It was purely because I'd heard it could make you faint (I didn't realise at the time that it could kill you) and I didn't think it would work. I only tried it once and it was at highschool against the lockers. I instantly went from feeling normal and like it wasn't working, to passing out and cutting my head on a locker on the fall down. I could not remember falling down at all. All in all a very very stupid thing to do, but the dangers associated with it were completely unknown to us kids at the time. This was before I was drinking or smoked weed, a curious one off.

I wonder how many people still do it? Because at my school alot of kids tried it in a brief two month period and then an assembly was called and they spoke of it potentially killing you.

I did this in highschool too, I was also 15 years old.
I remember dropping to the ground and then seeing everything as new for 0.5 seconds, it was all bright and it felt asif I had just woken up.

Didn't feel good, but I had 4 other friends doing it at the same time, so when we all got up we were all like;
"Woeeaah, duuuuuuuuddddeeeee..." etc etc.

I don't see the "recreational" value in it.
FUCK ASPHYXIATION!


what gets me is, you really don't need to strangle yourself to achieve this.

I remember it at school, it was usually a two person affair. But at no point did anyone get strangled - it just involved hyperventilating for about 30 seconds then holding your breath whilst someone pushed on your chest... and you'd like bulb out for little bit, and get up fine. The way it was done, it sounds more like she was trying to hang herself...

This is pretty much what I did, my method was to hyperventilate for a while, then blow really hard on your thumb for as long as possible, you slowly and swiftly blackout.

I did it over grass with many people around, told them to make sure I was OK.
Which I was (I think)

If anyone is going to attempt this, have someone around to keep their full attention on you.
It's so..... (I can't even think of a word to describe how much no one should do this.)

The belt thing.. sheesh, that's a little far.
 
I did plenty of dumb things when I was 15. Surfing during a cyclone was pretty stupid, so was blowing up a bee hive in an old tree with a home made chlorine bomb (it was so long ago none of the neighbours even knew how to spell terrorist let alone be alert or alarmed ;)). The difference is I wasn't killed or more importantly my parents didn't find my body in a compromising position with my knickers around my ankles, therefore nominating me for a Darwin award.

15 yr old girls are stupid and annoying enough without having to highlight the fact by choking themselves to death. I would carry the same derision if she killed her self huffing deodorant or drinking moonshine.
 
what gets me is, you really don't need to strangle yourself to achieve this.

I remember it at school, it was usually a two person affair. But at no point did anyone get strangled - it just involved hyperventilating for about 30 seconds then holding your breath whilst someone pushed on your chest... and you'd like bulb out for little bit, and get up fine. The way it was done, it sounds more like she was trying to hang herself...

This was actually the way I did it, but it's my understanding that it CAN potentially kill you, because either way your fucking with your oxygen circulation, people did it both ways at my school and I believe they both can be dangerous. Sad stuff
 
The holding breath and having my chest pushed on is how we did it back at my school.

Busty your a fucking idiot, I don't really see the relevance that you didn't die doing some of those stupid things when it ultimately comes down to an element of luck whether risk taking behaviour comes to bite you on the ass but trust your inflated ego to interpret that as you being better.

You are stupid and annoying enough without having to highlight the fact by making fun of children who accidentally die from asphyxiation. :|
 
^fuckn rofl, i reckon.

Busty:
Ya can't say because the stupid things you did didn't kill you at 15, that you were any brighter than her, or us for that matter.

I blew all sorts of things up - hell it was dangerous.

One time i was making CO2 bombs, one didn't seem to wanna go off, when i warned the other kid to stay behind a tree. He told me I was a fuckhead and danced around the bulb - suffice to say it blew his leg to bits. Carrying a fucking moron of a kid down a bush trail with a huge gash in his thigh bleeding everywhere wasn't too fun at 13.

These incidences could have easily killed me or someone else - I may have put some caution into my own well being, and my advice for the other kid - but in the end it really all comes down to slightly adjusting your luck with some common sense. We all have varying levels of that.

I know for certain that my risky behaviors as a teenager were merely thrill seeking. You don't know any better at that age - when you get into your 20s you think back at how dumb those things were, but how much more fun you were having in high school, careless and not a worry in the world.

I also second busty's thoughts on this girl's stupidity are spot on too, hanging yourself to get high isn't exactly brainstrust material. The ways we attempted this (even if at the time I had no idea it could be fatal) seem far safer than strapping yourself to a door.
 
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People would have still laughed at you Mr Ibis, the only difference being a boy means you won't have the feel good set feeling sorry for you. It's the same reason Shapelle Corby was a poor girl in jail where as the 14 yr old in Bali is a dumb arse.
 
It's not funny that she's dead, it's funny that foolishness/stupidity killed her? If that's the point you were trying to get across, even if in a harsher manner - I agree.

come on guys, douse the flames.
 
In the end kids do stupid things and sometimes we manage to live another day other times we don't. I mean I had a high gpa in high school and got accepted to many universities but I still did stupid shit... Sometimes I wonder how I am alive. I mean this girl could of thought this out more thoroughly but in the end she just probably thought oh I won't die..it won't happen to me. Just like almost every bluelighter does and then you end up in the bluelight shrine.
 
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