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News - (SMH - Sept 24th) - Australia world's top ecstasy abuser: UN

It brings a patriotic tear to my eye :)

What does it prove though? Not much. Just more sensatiolistic journalism that we've all come to know and love.
 
Hopefully all the world's largest and most respected ecstacy manufacture's see this article, realise where the market is and flood our shores that are girt by sea with the best ECCIES IN THE WORLD!!!!

shit i drooled all over my keyboard :D
 
Psychadelic_Paisly said:
Hopefully all the world's largest and most respected ecstacy manufacture's see this article, realise where the market is and flood our shores that are girt by sea with the best ECCIES IN THE WORLD!!!!

shit i drooled all over my keyboard :D
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Im wanking furiously over this very thought!
:) :) :)
 
On a serious note, this is bound to bring pressure on the Fed government to right the problem. Last year the UN claimed harm minimisation was not reducing drug use, so Australia like other countries endorsing HM policies was requested to drop HM and press ahead with zero tolerance etc.

It didn't work despite advocates recently calling for such, but by comparison to last year this report places a great deal of world focus on Australia and those waving the wands (in positions of power) will no doubt try to influence how the country should deal with the "problem". Just look at what Thailand has done, undoubtedly - in part at least - as a response to UN and US pressure 8(
 
I heard Mr Dillon disputing this on Tripple J this arvo. Saying there was no way to determine this or compare countries in this way, something along those lines. Apparently we are going through a amphetamine cycle at the moment, not exactly sure what was meant by that. Is mdma being considered an amphetamine?

Although high rates of drug use in younger and younger people is an issue that needs to be taken very seriously.
 
I just can't/don't believe that Australia can be ahead of the UK/Holland/parts of Europe.... It just reminds me of the way you can make statistics say pretty much anything and that “there are liars, damn liars and statisticians”...
 
Apparently we are going through a amphetamine cycle at the moment, not exactly sure what was meant by that
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When I did Drugs in Society at Uni a few years ago I read how most countries that once prescribed methamphetamine seem to go through 10-15 year cycles of peak illicit use. This peak does not directly correlate with peaks in other countries i.e. not all countries have their peak at the same time, but over 30-40 years the trend displayed a fairly regular sine wave, representative of some European countries, Japan, Australia and the US.

It was mentioned that this cycle is usually a little over one generation in length, just enough time for the past generation's problems with meth to be forgotten about.
 
When i first read this it gave me pride, well done everyone. :)

I'm sure alot of peakers in the U.K will be jealous over this statement.

I was supprised to see that we came 2nd in meth usage, and also that alot of pills are from asia(Or that could be amphs.), but there was a bust in Indonisia where the X-score lollies supposedly came from....who knows?

Now all i want to do is happily run up to John Howard and show him the article so we can express our pride and happiness together.
 
Maybe they determined it from observing activity rates on pillreports...it seems we have way more people rating pills here than the uk or other countries ive checked up on. Ive also noticed that most get high scores - Im sure some reports are bs but it seems theres as much good stuff around now as when I started about 6 years ago (and prices were higher too). So who knows, maybe it is true!

But unfortunately phase_dancer could be right, so this isnt neccessarily good news. Especially with so many ppl wanting to take em here in oz, if there was a drought like I saw with pot about 8 years ago, then thats BAD NEWS.

Even more so if penalties increase as a result.
 
^^^
i think you are right, phasedancer too.
Our government will probably use this piece of infomation to back a "war" against X. Or it could lead to a movement against it, if anything something along those lines.

i think this is a stab in the heart from the UN. i cant believe that we are infront of holland and the UK for X use as trog said.

this article or stab could invariably effect the way Australia handles its X users. :( :\
 
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Sorry hate that chant, yet it works well in this context.:|
 
Australians Top users of Ecstasy?

Saw this on another forum .... hmmm i dunno what to believe ...


September 25, 2003


AUSTRALIANS are the world's top users of the illegal amphetamine ecstasy, a new United Nations report has revealed.

The first UN global survey on ecstasy and amphetamines also says Australia ranks second only to Thailand in terms of methamphetamine abuse.

The problem of amphetamine-type stimulants in Australia is characterised by high levels of abuse and is "serious and growing", the report warns.

"Australia has the highest levels of ecstasy abuse worldwide and ranks second for methamphetamine use," it says.

According to the report, by the Vienna-based UN Office on Drugs and Crime, the local production of methamphetamine tablets in Australia is increasing.

It says the drugs are manufactured locally using pseudoephedrine as a chemical precursor - either bought or stolen from retail outlets or taken from chemical factories, warehouses and factory yards.

"The relatively closed market appears to have disguised the specific nature and extent of the problem for some time," the report says.

But domestic manufacture of ecstasy is limited. The drugs are mainly imported from Europe, South-East Asia and China.

Imported tablets are often ground up, diluted and resold and are of dubious and inconsistent quality.

Fake ecstasy - with logos to make the tabs look authentic - is also being produced locally using ingredients like ketamine, paracetamol and caffeine, the report says.

Annual statistics for people aged 14 and over show ecstasy use in Australia peaked in 2001 with 2.9 per cent of the population using the drug and 3.4 per cent using amphetamines.

The Australian figures reflect a worldwide trend, with the global use of ecstasy estimated to have risen by 70 per cent between 1995-1997 and 2000-2001, while use of amphetamines rose by 40 per cent in the same period.

Worldwide production of amphetamine-like stimulants is estimated at 500 tonnes a year, with seizures rising from four tonnes in 1990-1991 to just under 40 tonnes in 2000-2001.

The Ecstasy and Amphetamines Global Survey 2003 says almost all countries reported a strong concentration of abuse of these drugs among young people, particularly in dance and club settings.

More than 40 million people around the world, or one in every 100 people aged 15 and older, used amphetamine-like substances in 2000-2001.

The use of such stimulants is concentrated among 18 to 20 year-olds.

The report says use of the drugs can cause dependence, loss of memory and premature decline of other mental functions.

The drugs are wrongly "perceived as less harmful than other illicit substances, like heroin and cocaine".

"The danger posed by synthetic drugs is already real and is advancing relentlessly."
 
4 years ago Brisbane was rated the speed capital of the world. This was based upon the number of seizures and the purity percentage average of seized product. At around 25% this was almost double that of the next highest state (SA from memory)

Recently, national studies have reported that E has been used by 1 in 6 Australians. Perhaps this figure is higher now, or at least greater per head than other nations. Or maybe we are the only country with any figures to submit? In the past, because Australia has been somewhat behind the rest of the world in regards to drug and music trends, it has allowed many programs and studies to be in place when trend waves arrive. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Australia has managed to correlate data between state and federal departments to produce figures which would be impossible to do in countries where current restrictive policies make any comprehensive user study a logistic nighmare.


Even if figures weren't accurately presented, it doesn't take a genius to figure we would be right up there. Australians after all are known for their consumption

Look at beer, wine, tobacco, pharms, naughty foods, sex, old growth to real estate, clothing, cars, surf boards, bullets, water and of course anything daring, new or exciting. Known for squeezing the most from new fancies or possible party hours in a day, to many foreigners, to be an Austalian signifies all these things. Why should drugs be expected to be any different, particularly if this is simply a foreign buerocrat's prenotioned viewpoint?

However if tradition is anything to go by, good luck to anyone thinking they can change that image..
 
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I really don't see how they figure this. England has a much larger using population, easier access to pills, plus their prices are about a tenth of ours. And what about the Netherlands? These figures seem very odd to me.
 
While this is indeed an honour for which we can all accept some (albeit dubious) credit, it really seems a little bit wrong.

How can we possibly keep up with pill consumption in the UK? Pills are five pound and their pill-taking population would be triple ours.

statistics strike again...

edit: do i hear an echo??
 
I don't think you have to look further than Bluelight for an example of just how highly Australians like their illicit drugs. Compare the amount of Australian activity on this board to American activity... consider that Australia is a nation of 19 million and America 300 million; with probably a higher per centa rate of internet connectivity.

I can't go to a random thread in a random forum on Bluelight without running into a familar Aussie username.

Go us!
 
price and availability does not directly correlate with the amount of ppl who use it (although it probably means the users r likely to take more).

The Netherlands does NOT have a high rate of marijuana usage AMONGST THE DUTCH themselves - supported by reports, and my own findings (i went to school there for 6 months, and had trouble finding smoking partners). Even alcohol can be bought from the age of 16 there - they believe (and it seems to work) that if u take that element of rebelliousness from the activity, educate ppl properly to the risks, and most ppl wont use (or abuse) it.

Australia on the other hand........
 
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