News - Grieving parents' ecstasy plea - The West - 2nd Jan 2007

[Wyld 4 X]

So it seem's The silly Girl Shoved 3 of em straight down her neck...

Not even ive done thaT many at once


RIP

I was thinking the exact same thing.

 

[Fry-d-]

So it seem's The silly Girl Shoved 3 of em straight down her neck...

Not even ive done thaT many at once


RIP

How do you know this?



Charging the boyfriend hardly seems the right thing to do in this situation. I know he would be suffering enough already and now this message is sent out to other drug users.

 

[tribesman]

I think charging the boyfriend would be more of a warning to other party goers who buy drugs for there friends, nothing to do with justice or compassion.

 

[BingoBango]

So just what message does this send to drug users now? Call an ambulance for your friend who is dying and we'll charge you with supply? Terrific... so in wanting to seem like they're doing something, the police are going to ruin someone else's life as well now. Good work WA Police

exactly what i was thinking, but i think in this case since the girl died, it gained so much (bad) publicity.

what if the girl didnt die? its not like the fcuking media is going to make a front page report on praising friends for alerting paramedics nice and early.

 

[New Beginning]

I once overdosed on MDMA-based pills... I'd had the same quantity of the same pills before and was fine but for some reason that day they violently disagreed with me.

The staff in the Emergency Room didn't tell the police - and they easily could have. The hospital was crawling with police, interviewing drunk drivers in the beds on either side of me. I know it is an old line to tow, but...

If your friends *are* in trouble, please don't hesitate to call for help. If mine hadn't I may not still be here today.

 

[Rated E]

Pink Shaped Hearts?

They were really good on NYE. Intense, really smacky. My guess is strong MDMA.

 

[Cowboy Mac]

The staff in the Emergency Room didn't tell the police - and they easily could have. The hospital was crawling with police, interviewing drunk drivers in the beds on either side of me. I know it is an old line to tow, but...

They never would have indicated you unless they thought their own safety was in danger. This is how all medicos act; never be afraid to ask for help if you need it. They are there to help, not to tell the police.

 

[MyDietMainlyAmines]

Friends have had these and tested before using. they looked the same as all the ones in the reports and the same as the ones shown on TV (a bag of 3 red heart shaped pills was shown on the initial TV report, which I thought was interesting in its self)

tested straight to dark purple (not sure which tester) and user reports a good strong dose.

As the report (for once almost correctly) it was a rare ecstacy overdose (I would have preferred the term "ecstacy related death"). We may find out one day what the actual cause was (individual's rare bad reaction, drank too much water or dodgy pill - dodgy pill being the least likely IMHO)

 

[Teddles]

My mate had two pink hearts last night, i picked him up from town a few hours ago and what sense i could get out off him was he had two hearts and they where shit hot. My mate eats pills like candy when he drops, so for him to still have eight in his pocket is unheard off, in his loved up conditon he offered me two knowing i haven't dropped for years, I might have to see what the fuss is about.

I really feel for the boyfriend and/or the person who called for help, people are gonna start doing wierd shit if they know there gonna get in trouble. For instance might give the ambo's false and misleading infomation. The cops would only of got involed because there was a death and they have to investigate any death no matter what thee circumstances, if she woke up fine the next day i'd be safe to assume that the cops wouldn't be called by hospital staff, but not always. Some Drs & Nurses still think drug users are the lowest of the low and loving playing power games like ring parents and cops.

 

[yossarian_is_sane!]

^ this is the most likely explanation. I don't think the act of calling the ambulance had anything to do with the coppers. If there's a suspected drug death they have to investigate it.

 

[insanit_e]

these pills are just really really strong. Like, i had half and was fucked! So it seems as though this girl didn't wait to see how strong they were before she redosed. I can imagine "several" of these would be pretty hectic. Would be interesting to know how many she had

 

[JakesCode]

I second that.. Half a one of these got me to about the same level one regular one would.. And even after two regular ones things tend to get quite messy! I dont particularly think I'd want to see where three of these would take me! Especially not if I was new to the scene..

 

[LSD]

The Sunday Times

Of the 455 tablets tested by the WA Chemistry Centre in the past year, some contained sertraline, an antidepressant; tramadol, an analgesic; and safrole, a toxic precursor for the manufacture of MDMA. Four different heartshaped tablets tested recently contained MDMA at only up to 45 per cent purity

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[Fry-d-]

Ecstasy users risk deadly mix
Nicole Cox

January 06, 2007 04:00pm

ECSTASY users are flirting with death, unwittingly popping pills laced with toxic chemicals, animal anaesthetic and dangerously high doses of caffeine.

Scientific analysis of pills sold as ecstasy has revealed varying levels of MDMA - the main ingredient in genuine ecstasy tablets - and evidence that pill cooks are, instead, using harmful cocktails of chemicals.

Data from the WA Chemistry Centre showed methylamphetamine, pseudoephedrine and paracetamol were among the substances found in pills being passed off as ecstasy.

Some pills contained no MDMA, with ketamine - an anaesthetic used in veterinary medicine - the most common substitute.

And, alarmingly, Royal Perth Hospital has reported an ``unprecedented'' wave of overdose victims in the past two weeks.

The startling information comes after the ecstasy-related death of 21-year-old Michelle Poore in Dunsborough early last Sunday. It is understood she took several heart-shaped pills before she died.

Her boyfriend, Nicholas Gudden, 23, of Pearsall, a northern suburb, has been charged with possessing and supplying ecstasy, as well as possessing cannabis and a smoking implement.

He will appear in Busselton Magistrate's Court on January 19.

Of the 445 tablets tested by the WA Chemistry Centre in the past year, some contained sertraline, an antidepressant; tramadol, an analgesic; and safrole, a toxic precursor for the manufacture of MDMA.

Four different heart-shaped tablets tested recently contained MDMA at only up to 45 per cent purity.

But the centre's principal chemist, Dominic Reynolds, said there was no way of knowing if the analysed tablets were from the same batch as the ones taken by Ms Poore.

RPH clinical toxicologist Frank Daly said there had been a spate of ecstasy and amphetamine-related overdoses over the festive period.

"We have definitely seen an unprecedented amount . . . it's very sad,'' Dr Daly said.

"People don't realise there are life-threatening complaints associated with all these agents - brain haemorrhage, stroke, heart attack.''

Other side effects included overheating of the body, delirium, coma, seizures and, in some cases, brain death.

From perth now

 

[strungout]

Is there a government sponsored site or any site for that matter where the general public can view the chemical breakdown analysis of siezed pills? I myself would be extremely interested. May even help to dispel some of the rumours that get around from time to time. eg blue hammers circa 2002 which supposedly had crushed glass in them.

 

[Splatt]

I wish. It should be available for the public to know. It could save lives.

 

[JakesCode]

I am just curious to know how they performed the test?

How do they find the percentage of purity? I would assume they'd have to first seperate they MDMA (unpure) from the contents of the pill (binders etc) and then work out how much of the MDMA is pure? It all sounds quite suspect.. You'd imagine if they separated the MDMA from the pill.. it would be mostly pure once extracted?

Perhaps they are saying only 45% of the pill was MDMA and the rest of the pill was inactive (impurities.. binders, whatever else)..

Has anyone weighed these little todgers? Im just curious to see what 45% of the weight would be..

 

[Morissey]

I am just curious to know how they performed the test?

How do they find the percentage of purity? I would assume they'd have to first seperate they MDMA (unpure) from the contents of the pill (binders etc) and then work out how much of the MDMA is pure? It all sounds quite suspect.. You'd imagine if they separated the MDMA from the pill.. it would be mostly pure once extracted?

Perhaps they are saying only 45% of the pill was MDMA and the rest of the pill was inactive (impurities.. binders, whatever else)..

Has anyone weighed these little todgers? Im just curious to see what 45% of the weight would be..

I was thinking the same. According to this report (http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=3751) they weigh 200mg. Therefore if 45% of the pill was MDMA then they would contain 90mg MDMA.

 

[scumlord]

Is there a government sponsored site or any site for that matter where the general public can view the chemical breakdown analysis of siezed pills?

IF ONLY.......

 

[JakesCode]

I was thinking the same. According to this report (http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=3751) they weigh 200mg. Therefore if 45% of the pill was MDMA then they would contain 90mg MDMA.

If thats so, then I find it highly interesting that everyone rates these as a strong dose. I'd even go as far as saying they are moderately clean and have very little comedown or negative effects (as per my experiences). Makes you wonder how little active product may be in your average ho humm pill. I wouldnt say these feel any weaker than the good batch of green mitzibushis rated at i think 130 - 140mg? (if i remember correctly)

What does everyone else thing about this?