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NEWS: ABC - 16/08/07 'Govt defends graphic new ice TV ads'

Where are the ads on Amphetamine Damage?

Most of us should know methamphetamine is a neurotoxin, whereby continual use over many years results in neural changes which in some cases remain after usage is ceased, but how many know or are informed of the long term neural changes that occur with amphetamine?

This change, as noted in the following publication, does not occur with MDMA or meth, but it is significant enough to warrant further reseach and perhaps a rethink on the safety of amphetmaine. While it's not concluded what long term outcomes are, it's well known that particular Beta amyloid peptides are integral in causing Alzheimers Disease.

Amphetamine effects on brain protein structure and oxidative stress as revealed by FTIR microspectroscopy
A. Rodríguez-Casado 1, I. Alvarez 2, A. Toledano 2, E. de Miguel 3, P. Carmona 1 *

Abstract

Amphetamines are psychostimulants abused by man, that eventually leads to drug dependence. Amphetamine administration to rodents has been shown to provoke significant neurotoxicity involving dopaminergic nerve terminal degeneration. However, little information related to the effect of amphetamines on reactive oxygen species (ROS) production and neurotoxicity in brain is currently available. Herein we report the biochemical alterations of lipids and proteins in brain sections from amphetamine-treated rodents using infrared microspectroscopy, immunohistochemistry, and immunoblotting. The spectroscopic changes reveal for the first time the formation of -sheet-rich proteins in the cortex, but no significant protein alterations are visible in hippocampus region where hydroperoxide concentration is found to be lower relative to cortex. These result suggest that ROS generated by amphetamine-mediated oxidative stress induce formation -sheet-rich proteins which can be of amyloid -like character. © 2007 Wiley Periodicals, Inc. Biopolymers 86: 437-446, 2007
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I also hate meth and wish it didn't exist and have been pretty addictyed to it, injecting it a few times a week for many months at one stage, then going to wkeend or bi-weekly use only, then just using it every month or so, but I don't really want a bar of it anymore. If there's one drug I weant to fuck off, its meth, be it speed/base or ice, whatever, fuck it off.

It is damaging to people, society and everything basically, and yes I have seen it do some pretty fucked up shit to people, and turn them into stealing, lying angry fuckwits, basically really dirty people, but their normally addicted to weed as well, and when that supply runs out they get angry very easily.
 
'Violent' ice effects straining doctors
Posted Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:24am AEST

New South Wales Hunter region doctors are feeling the strain of the increased usage of the methamphetamine 'ice'.

Earlier this month, the Federal Government released a new advertising campaign in a bid to shock ice users, while NSW police are also cracking down on the drug.

The chief executive officer of the Hunter Rural Division of General Practice, Alison Crocker, says the use of ice is a concern particularly in the Manning region, near Taree and Cessnock in the Hunter Valley.

"One of my GPs at Cessnock I was speaking to yesterday recounted that it took at least six people to restrain one person ... the psychosis, they become so violent and aggressive, that it is supernatural powers almost," he said.
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I've been watching a lot of these ads as they're on every night during Australian Idol, obviously the government feels that there's an important demographic to be targeted here with the drug campaign.

One of the ironies of this is that considering the TV show itself is full of aspiring musicians, they're probably among the people most likely to be current or former drug users. I know for a fact and have seen with my own eyes some of the Idol contestants from previous years out and on drugs. :\
 
its just another "tough on drugs" campaign in time for the coming election. always a vote winner.

speaking for myself, i'm a big fan of meth. i've had many good times, and many more great uninhibited conversations with friends which wouldn't have been possible otherwise.

i know a fair few people who take meth on a regular/semi-regular basis, and have never seen the behavior portrayed in these ads. not saying it doesn't happen, just that from my experience, it doesn't seem common.
 
You know what it is. It's the night life scene and drinking, and taking unknown street pills on top of it. People getting agro in that shitty club/night street environment and getting arrested but resisting because you still want to kill the other person you're fighting, or similar situations. And now that it is now smokable (while some older stuff was anyway), which is easier to pop in a pipe than draw up a rig doing it properly, clean and safe.

I know/knew a large group of people that would inject speed (powder, little crystals, base/goo) on a regular basis. Some of them got pretty bad, while the others quit, but still party with other stuff. Some pretty fucked up shit happened and some desperate shit. Like a girl seeing a guy's shot didn't go all the way in, so she put a bit more water in it after it came out of his vein in 20 seconds and injected herself up. Or sometimes couldnt register and would just pump it anyway, or the needle snap off in her arm a few times.

The point is meth has been around for a long time, and to be honest, you're all now paying double or more for the same quantity with the the same purity/strength meth used to be years ago. Now base is dirty as hell, but ice is just as shit now it seems.

I reckon ice will soon just be what todays pills are in Australia. Low dose impure meth, cut with other stimulants, possibly even low doses of MDPV or other new stuff (or adding dimethyl occaisonally) and just recrystalized. Then keep mixing the crystalisation combos around to keep the users addicted on a daily or near daily basis.

Looks like what all drugs are turning out to be. Shit. Especially anything addictive. At least most G is still what it is, maybe a little bit watered but the price has only gone up, not people adding like petrol, ether or cheap bulk sedatives to it.
 
I gave a really drunk bum a bulb of nitrous oxide and his head shook violently and he said no no NOOO.. and didn't want any more. But back onto topic.. How funny are some of the street names in the new drug booklet handed out. If I can find my copy again I will scan it if it isn't available online for those who didn't see it.
 
I've lost a few mates over the years to ice and quiet honestly, even if the ads msgs were spot on - the thing is they're aimed at an audience who use to get told if they took ecstasy they will die.
 
Most pills do not contain any MDMA

[EDIT: Thread merged here as this is the latest discussion on the government campaign. hoptis]

While the active ingredient of ecstasy is MDMA most pills do not contain any MDMA and are more likely to be made up of methamphetamine (speed) combined with a synthetic hallucinogen.

http://www.drugs.health.gov.au/internet/drugs/publishing.nsf/Content/fact_ecstacy

Trust the government now people.
 
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What a load. Althiough the speed content has gone up in the past couple years. Especially this year.
 
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