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NEWS: 30-1-10 Ectasy tablets kills more Australians

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Ecstasy tablets kills more Australians
Article from: The Sunday Mail (Qld)

Lisa Mayoh

January 30, 2010 11:00pm

MORE than 100 young Australians have died after taking ecstasy in the eight years to 2008, The Sunday Mail can reveal.

A ground-breaking report into the use of the drug, whose scientific name is MDMA, shows it claimed 82 Australian lives over five years from 2000 – and fatalities are increasing.

Conducted by the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre, the study into MDMA-related deaths in Australia is the biggest and most comprehensive analysis to date, and has prompted calls for further research into its prevalence.

Additional figures obtained by The Sunday Mail show another 23 people died from 2006 to 2008, which is considered to be an "under-representation" due to many cases still under investigation.

Of those, 10 deaths were reported in 2006, seven in 2007 and six in 2008, with 65 per cent of victims aged between 20-29 and more than 70 per cent male.

More than 80 per cent of the deaths were unintentional and 15 of the 23 victims took other drugs along with the MDMA, including cannabis or alcohol.

In the earlier cases examined by the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre, 91 per cent of the deaths were directly caused by drug toxicity and MDMA was the sole drug involved in a quarter of cases. It also contributed to a number of drownings, cardiovascular conditions and car accidents.

Funded by the federal Department of Health and Ageing, the report found the median age of fatalities was 26, with the youngest victim aged 17 and the oldest being 58.

"While reports of MDMA-related death are far less common than those of opioid, amphetamine and cocaine, the number of MDMA-related deaths appears to be increasing," the study said.

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I know it is News Limited 8) and the hyperlinks provided in the article are only to the associated websites not the actual study. I hunted around the website and couldn't find the study (unless I'm not looking hard enough?)
 
Interesting article, however, I would like to see a comparative analysis between these findings and the deaths associated with alcohol, tobacco and individual prescription medications. :\
 
Legalization could have prevented these needless deaths. Freedom is the issue!
 
Just about anything can kill you these days and I just love how the media writes up crap like this. Another boring week in the news room me thinks...
 
Just adding to marley's observation here's another US stat ...

4. GOLF: It may be just below boxing and ice hockey in the brutality stakes, but golf is right up there in the death stakes. Some figures suggest more than 4,000 of us take our last breath on the fairway every year. It's also a killing field when it comes to bad weather, with five per cent of all lightning-related deaths taking place on the golf course.
3. HORSE RIDING: A recent survey on the number of fatalities per 100,000 participants in the US put riding a horse - including eventing, racing and show jumping - at the top of the list with a whopping 128. And that's without taking into account all the horses that perished too. Compare this number to the seemingly much more dangerous sport of boxing - which has just 1.3 deaths per 100,000 - and it puts into perspective quite how dangerous getting your leg over a horse can be.

I say make these thing illegal and hunt people out and persecute them if they are found to be taking part in any related activities to them ... ie. making horse shoes .... :) ;)
 
Wonder how many of those deaths would have been avoided if people were taking clean, regulated pills :/
 
Wonder how many of those deaths would have been avoided if people were taking clean, regulated pills :/

I would say 60-70% of them to be honest. If people didn't have to pop 3-4 a night to feel the MDMA effects, while at the same time imbibing copious amounts of other adulterants and general fillers then most of these problems would be minimised.

The fact is if you were able to buy a nice 140mg MDMA pill knowing that all that it contains was MDMA and medical grade binder you could safely dose without thinking that it wasn't working or you needed another.
Hence this would negate the need to overuse or overdose by popping multiple pills to obtain some sort of high
 
It would be great to have pharmaceutical grade MDMA. The government could easily put a tax on it like everything else.

They could even sell it only Chemists or something where you are only eligble to buy a pack of say '3 Pills' once a month or something like that. Similar to cold n flu tablets with Psuedo watch.

Even have lower dose right upto higher dose (Just like alcohol content). If it was all manufactured legit and if the government just FOR ONE DAY pull their heads out of their fuken arses, stopped being so narrow minded and saw the big picture of what MDMA was all about and how its a lot safer than alcohol then everything would be good. Its just funny how pretty much all the drugs we have now were once legal and used for medicine of some sort.
 
Forget Ecstasy what about cheerleading!!!!

ECSTASY and Cheerleading:
A Basic Risk Comparison
Jag Davies
A January 8, 2006 Boston Globe article, “The Most Dangerous Sport in School,” reported on several instances of catastrophic, sometimes deadly, cheerleading accidents. Apparently, like taking prescription medications, living in a polluted city, and driving a car, recreational sports such as cheerleading are activities that our society views as having serious, but acceptable, risks. How, then, does this compare historically to the risks society deems as unacceptable, such as those associated with the recreational use of Ecstasy? I did some research to find out.
I focused on Emergency Room (ER) visit data, the most common indicator of cost to public health. For example, according to the Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN), in 1994–nine years after MDMA was criminalized, but the first for which data is available from SAMHSA– there were 253 ER visits as a result of Ecstasy use in the US. Meanwhile, according to the US Consumer Product Safety Commission (USCPSC), in 1994 there were 15,792 ER visits as a result of participation in organized cheerleading. By that measure, in 1994 cheerleading was 62 times more of a threat to our nation’s public health than Ecstasy use. Keep in mind that most users don’t know whether their Ecstasy is pure MDMA, so these statistics reflect the risks of using unregulated black-market Ecstasy, which often contains other substances and sometimes does not even contain MDMA.



In 2001, when past-year Ecstasy use reached its peak, the total number of pastyear cheerleaders (3.8 million) and Ecstasy users (3.25 million) were relatively similar1. Still, past-year participation in organized cheerleading was four and a half times more likely than pastyear use of Ecstasy to have caused a medical crisis necessitating a visit to ER.
To look at those numbers another way, in 2001, one out of every 152 organized cheerleading participants sought ER treatment, while only one of out of every 585 past-year Ecstasy users sought ER treatment. Note that this data does not account for the differences between users; a cheerleader who practices daily and an Ecstasy user who takes the drug once a month are both counted here simply as participants. It is also worth noting that a study of ER admissions in the Netherlands found that most patients (89%) with an Ecstasy-related complaint did not require treatment beyond the initial visit with a doctor2.
In 2003, DAWN implemented a new methodology for calculating drug-related ER visits, and my estimate of 4,442 for that year is based on the only data available, an interim estimate from July- December 2003 of 2,221. In 2004, once the “new” DAWN had been implemented, their estimate for Ecstasy-related ER visits nearly doubled to 8,621, much higher than the previous high of 5,542 in 2001, but still a far cry from the whopping 28,414 cheerleading-related ER visits that year. DAWN recommends not comparing the “old” DAWN to the “new” DAWN3, but, taking this into consideration, the “old” DAWN is still valuable data, in fact the only data, available for 1994-2003.
Just Say No to Cheerleading?
Do these statistics mean that cheerleading should join Ecstasy in the shadowy underground of prohibited activities? Most would argue that cheerleading offers benefits that balance its risks, and that with careful preparation and education, these benefits make the risk of injury an acceptable one, even for young people. Unfortunately, the public debate on Ecstasy is limited by both an exaggeration of risks and a silence on benefits. Without a clear look at the actual impact of its use on individuals and on society, the costly decision to prohibit Ecstasy is difficult to justify.

Most would argue that cheerleading offers benefits that balance its risks…

As mentioned earlier, most of the risks associated with Ecstasy are a direct consequence of prohibitionist public policy. These risks include poor access to realistic harm-reduction educational materials, health risks related to ingesting unregulated material, and delay in medical treatment due to fear of criminal prosecution, imprisonment, stigma, and employment discrimination. Even in rare situations when Ecstasy does cause acute health-related problems and/or dependence, abuse, or addiction, prohibition accentuates these problems.
The economic cost of prohibition of certain drugs is also risky public policy, as billions of dollars are spent every year on propaganda, law enforcement, mandatory treatment, and prisons, forgoing billions of dollars from regulation and taxation that could be spent on honest education, voluntary treatment, and other pressing societal needs. Instead, these billions of dollars fuel underground criminal networks while squandering precious government credibility.
Most relevant to MAPS’ mission is the risk that MDMA’s potential therapeutic benefits will be lost on our society. While young people can still access street Ecstasy almost as easily as taking cheerleading lessons, prohibition has delayed for decades our ability to investigate MDMA’s potential as a medicine and a tool for healing. •

1. “Past-year” refers to someone who has participated in organized cheerleading or consumed Ecstasy at least once in the past year.

2. Spruit, I.P. “Ecstasy use and policy responses in the Netherlands.” Journal of Drug Issues, 1999; 29(3): 653-678.

3. “New DAWN: Why It Cannot Be Compared with Old DAWN” explains this in greater detail: http://dawninfo.samhsa.gov/pubs/ shortreports/
 
We all know that ecstacy in its pure form is fairly harmless from a 'death' perspective, but those in power dont, or if they do it would be political suicide to admit it.
 
Interesting article, however, I would like to see a comparative analysis between these findings and the deaths associated with alcohol, tobacco and individual prescription medications. :\

exactly

there would be thousands upon thousands of deaths caused by alcohol and tobacco. Not to mention the hardship that alcohol can cause without killing i.e. domestic violence, child abuse etc.

I'd love to know the exact amount of people killed in Australia due to adverse reactions to prescribed medication, and also the amount of people in Australia that are addicted to prescribed medication.
 
If you want to take the time to read the report, although it is fairly long it outlines the mortality rates and costs to Australian society by classification of drugs.
The costs of tobacco, alcohol and illicit drug abuse to Australian society in 2004/05
by David J. Collins Macquarie University and Helen M. Lapsley
University of Queensland
and
University of New South Wales

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/drugstrategy/publishing.nsf/Content/mono66-l~mono66-l-ch3

Loss of life

Alcohol 4,135.0
Tobacco 19,459.7
Illicit drugs 1,204.7
All drugs 24,799.5
 
I hate to see this and to be honest,most times I roll these days it crosses my mind at some point in intensity that I feel like I could die any time. Iv never felt this from proper MDMA. Ive resorted to getting pure MDMA(please dont get into the purity of this stuff, im not in the mood for it)

I dont like doing MDMA to party or really for recreation, the last time I went to the club I threw up all over the floor just as I made it through the bathroom door(thank god not before) I refuse to take pills anymore, im sick of feeling fucked up in a way that isnt MDMA dominated and spewing my guts up all night, its embarrassing and not right.

From now on MDMa wil only ever be taken in a house environment or at least NOT in a club, pub or anywhre with arrogant people.

One question though...How come pills are so popular if theyr all shit? People like shit pills? I dont get it.
 
I think pills are so popular because, they're convenient, easy to get your hands on, and to people who haven't done drugs seem more inviting.

I know when I first hit the scene a "pill" didn't seem as extreme as snorting a powder of some sort, but thats just because of how uneducated I was and the majority of the public is.

Anyway to get back on topic, One thing to keep in mind is that supposing those the majority were with other drugs aswell. But if MDMA became legalised i don't think it's correct to say people still wouldn't still abuse it. People know u know need a new shots of tequila to get drunk, but they still have lots of shots to get retarded.

So if MDMA was legalised the deaths would probably increase ten fold. BUT what they should be focusing on is how many deaths that would decrease from alcohol. and obviously the deaths related to either alcohol or MDMA.

Just my two cents :p
 
I hate to see this and to be honest,most times I roll these days it crosses my mind at some point in intensity that I feel like I could die any time. Iv never felt this from proper MDMA. Ive resorted to getting pure MDMA(please dont get into the purity of this stuff, im not in the mood for it)

I dont like doing MDMA to party or really for recreation, the last time I went to the club I threw up all over the floor just as I made it through the bathroom door(thank god not before) I refuse to take pills anymore, im sick of feeling fucked up in a way that isnt MDMA dominated and spewing my guts up all night, its embarrassing and not right.

From now on MDMa wil only ever be taken in a house environment or at least NOT in a club, pub or anywhre with arrogant people.

One question though...How come pills are so popular if theyr all shit? People like shit pills? I dont get it.

U had a piperazine pill. Cbf listing all the side effects for the 1000th time but vomiting is a major side effect. I have never felt sick on MDMA. Bet u had hot cold flushes, halucinated, couldnt move and felt very sick and hungover the next day with no appetite or sleep. No?

The reason why people buy it because they dont know whats meant to be in a pill. They think if its in a pill form its good. Shame on anyone buying a pill thesedays and taking them. I Havnt touched pills for a long time, if u want to roll get sum Molly but forget pills.
 
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