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NEWS : 11.10.09 - Premier Colin Barnett to introduce tougher marijuana legislation

Colin Barnett is actually against all those proposed new beach rules. He's still a fuckwit though regarding the marijuana legislation.

TrippAR, you're preaching to the choir here. The lyrics of a Silverchair song come to mind...

You, wait 'til tomorrow
You, wait 'til tomorrow


Do something about it, today. Sorry, I'm just sick of hearing that generic hippy attitude when the person doesn't do anything about it except smoke more weed and eat more acid - the hypocrisy gets to me. I hate to break it to you but you haven't uncovered some amazing new truth that no one else doesn't already realise (yes, even that old lady down the road that has never touched a drug in her life). This stuff has essentially been going on for several thousand years.

WE MUST UNITE ! This is their worst fear!

Very true, revolution anyone? ;)

Obviously much of the public wouldn't agree with what you're saying (I do however, so don't take this post the wrong way) - but getting through to such people isn't possible IMO. But to quote a line from 'Jurassic Park', "nature finds a way" and that force is more powerful than the entire human race put together.

History repeats itself. Hitler was an under-achiever!

Riiiiiight... :p;)
 
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HA HA HA .... the hippy does nothing but smoke more weed then eat more acid!

Dude i'm far from a hippy. But i do, partake in those things very regularly.

And i like to consider myself a bit of an activist. I have protested before against the G20 etc..

Its bad man, and getting worse. In 2 years we will be looking back saying "man we had it good then"


"THE EXACT AMOUNT OF TYRANNY YOU WILL GET, IS THE AMOUNT YOU WILL PUT UP WITH" - THOMAS JEFFERESON

"A MANS RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS IS ESSENTIAL, IT IS FOR PROTECTION FOR HIS FAMILY AND AS A LAST RESORT AGAINST THE TYRANNY OF GOVERNMENT" - THOMAS JEFFERSON

We were de-armed long ago.
 
Trippar : there is heaps of your kind around, i'm one of them, but i'm not spitting out quotes and yelling at people to wake up... to make things happen, you have to work like the system, you have to be sneaky and manipulate people to wake themselves.

I'm starting to see alot of people come out of the wood work on the same ideas... is there a facebook group or a web forum where all the aussie activists are hanging out?
 
Just wanted to share this..


THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! THE DAMN MEDIA ARE EVEN TELLING US THAT WE ARE GOING INTO A POLICE STATE!

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...ge-as-bad-old-days-return-20100923-15oqk.html


We NEED to take to the streets like the 60's and 70's! People are to dumbed down fat and happy to give a fuck!

THEY LOVE THE IGNORANCE! THEY LOVE THE TYRANY!

Oh please government! Protect me from the men in caves with box cutters! Take away ALL my freedoms! We cant have those men in turbans coming out from under our beds!

PLEASE!
 
Trippar : there is heaps of your kind around, i'm one of them, but i'm not spitting out quotes and yelling at people to wake up... to make things happen, you have to work like the system, you have to be sneaky and manipulate people to wake themselves.

I'm starting to see alot of people come out of the wood work on the same ideas... is there a facebook group or a web forum where all the aussie activists are hanging out?

^ have you heard of this group? Getup!

Might not be exactly what you're after but they have been getting some decent results from their campaigns over the last year.
 
Below is an article from the New Scientist about the UK government's chief drug advisor who was sacked for speaking out about the truth on drug harm, specifically on ecstasy, LSD and marijuana. Even his replacement has agreed that cannabis is less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol stating "I think the scientific evidence is absolutely clear cut. I would agree with it." Why are drug laws still based on historical assumptions and not science in this day and age?

"IF THERE is one thing that politicians can and should do to limit the damage caused by illegal drugs, it is to take careful note of the evidence and develop a rational drug policy. Some politicians find it easier to ignore the evidence, and pander to public prejudice instead.

I can trace the beginning of the end of my role as chairman of the UK's official advisory body on drugs to the moment I quoted a New Scientist editorial (14 February, p 5). Entitled, fittingly enough, "Drugs drive politicians out of their minds", the editorial asked the reader to imagine being seated at a table with two bowls, one containing peanuts, the other the illegal drug MDMA (ecstasy). Which is safer to give to a stranger? Why, the ecstasy of course.

I quoted these words in the Eve Saville lecture at King's College London in July. This example plus other comments I have made – such as horse riding is more harmful than ecstasy – prompted Alan Johnson, the home secretary, to say that I had crossed the line from science to policy. This, he said, is why I had to go.

But simple, accurate and understandable statements of scientific fact are precisely what the advisory council is supposed to provide. Why would any scientist take up some future offer of a government advisory post when their advice can be treated with such disdain?

As well as ignoring its own advisers, the UK is falling out of step with international trends. When Portugal softened its drugs laws in 2001, drug use remained roughly constant, but ill health and deaths from drug taking fell. Decriminalisation quietly crept up the agenda in Vienna this year at a meeting of the UN Commission on Narcotic Drugs, where governments heard new, independent evidence on how the harms of criminalisation were outweighing the benefits. In August, President Felipe Calderón of Mexico approved a law decriminalising possession of small amounts of marijuana and other drugs. And just last month, Eric Holder, the US attorney general, instructed federal prosecutors to stop hounding medical users of marijuana in the 14 states where such use is legal.

No one doubts that heavy users of marijuana are risking trouble with their mental health. What I have simply pointed out is that we need a consistent policy, recognising that heavy users of alcohol and tobacco are more numerous and are causing themselves – and others – even more trouble through their indulgence.

Policies that ignore the realities of the world we live in are doomed to fail. This is true for just about all the biggest issues that we confront, from energy and climate to criminal justice, health and immigration. I'm not arguing that science dictate policy; considerations such as cost, practicality and morality also have a role. But scientific evidence should never be brushed aside from the political debate.

The current British government has said repeatedly that it wants its policies to be evidence-based, but actions speak louder than words. On ecstasy, for example, it made policy first, sought advice second – and cynically rejected the advice it was given. The result is shambolic policy-making which gives great cause for concern if that is how governments operate more generally.

The results of a government inventing its own reality and acting on it can be seen in the appalling consequences the George W. Bush presidency had for world peace, the environment and human rights. The message for the British government is a simple one: don't exclude rational argument in order to exploit a visceral public response. Politicians have to win the hearts and minds of their electorate. If your policy is informed by an underlying moral imperative, be open about what that is, and don't try to disguise it with a veneer of pseudo-science. We ignore scientific evidence at our peril.

David Nutt, professor of neuropsychopharmacology at Imperial College London, was chairman of the UK government's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs until he was dismissed last week by the UK home secretary"

I don't condone or condemn any sort of drug use, but I can't stand politicians distorting the truth for their own political gain, because for the most part, the the general public will simply accept what they say without question.
 
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Very interesting watch, thanks TripppAR :)

Scary stuff though. It's easy to see the truth of the extent to which people will accept change and loss of liberty if done gradually. Too fast and you get a revolution, but patiently step by step and everyone's too busy to care :\

As long as the masses have a full belly and a game to watch they wont pay as much attention to what is going on around us. There is a multinational effort underway consisting of elitist with the purpose of world control. Its the New World Order
 
Sports are a massive distraction.


Think about NRL or AFL grand final.. its all people talk about if that's their persuasion! With no care whatso ever on real issues..

They could name every footballer from their team for the past 25 years but they probably couldn't name the last 5 prime ministers we have had...

They are all puppets in the end though...
 
^^^pick up any mainstream newspaper. Then again I guess all of us understand media control. I work in a factory and al they talk about is football cars and drinking. You bring up any other topic or issue and they'll give you a dumbfounded look.

I was stupid enough to try and discuss this main article with someone at work, and all he had to say was "you would have to be a fucking idiot to smoke weed"
"why s that?"
"cause it's fucking illegal. Everyone caught should be thrown into the big house."
"that's a bit unfair don't you think?"
"no, they cause most road accidents and are the reason why we can't drink and drive"

my mouth literally dropped at the marvel of his logic.
 
When I worked as a forkie in a grease/oil warehouse, the other dude that worked in the warehouse with me would share a joint with me around lunchtime whenever the boss left haha.

Just because some things aren't said, doesn't mean alot of people aren't thinking them though TripppAR. You say we need to unite, I can't think of anything that makes us as a nation unite more than sport. United in the love of a game.
 
I was stupid enough to try and discuss this main article with someone at work, and all he had to say was "you would have to be a fucking idiot to smoke weed"
"why s that?"
"cause it's fucking illegal. Everyone caught should be thrown into the big house."
"that's a bit unfair don't you think?"
"no, they cause most road accidents and are the reason why we can't drink and drive"

my mouth literally dropped at the marvel of his logic.

That makes me wanna cry =(


@tripparrr
You can't seriously think because people find sports more interesting then politics we're puppets to the system. I follow plenty of sports, but thats purely because it's more enjoyable and in no way makes me a puppet. People choose to pay attention to these things, no body forces them.
 
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