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NEWS : 1.12.09 - Parents use private investigators on kids

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Parents use private investigators on kids

WORRIED parents are hiring private investigators and buying drug-testing kits to monitor their children.

Several private investigators told The Advertiser parents were turning to them to watch their teenage children, checking for drug use and on their children's friends and associates.

Consequent Security Services owner Neil Gordon said many parents approached him when they felt they had lost touch with their teenagers and Kingswood Investigations executive director Harry Klavins said he had "occasional" inquiries from parents.

"We can put them under surveillance and investigate the social activities of their associates," Mr Gordon said.

"We look at what these people are up to, where they work and patterns of behaviour.

"Parents are mainly concerned about who their teenagers are associating with and if they're using drugs."

Fees start from $300 for a four-hour session and include a half-hour consultation.

Mr Gordon said he averaged about two inquiries from parents each month. Both children and spousal investigations peaked during the December party season.

However, Mr Gordon said many parents often baulked after the initial consultation.

"They often back away because they feel that society has impressed (the need) for honesty and integrity . . . they feel they are not giving their children the loyalty they deserve," he said.

"However, don't feel guilty if there's been some abnormal behaviour - you might be saving them from some pretty drastic predicaments."

Other parents are testing their children themselves, using Hairconfirm drug-testing kits.

Kensington-based Camtek Surveillance Products director Rob Durney said he sold more than two thirds of Hairconfirm drug-testing kits to anxious parents.

"They're fairly popular. We sell most through the website, it's more discreet that way," Mr Durney said.

"I'd say 70 per cent are for children, for the parents to test. They can test without them knowing (and) they can show if you're a weekend user of cannabis, a heavy user or a frequent user."

The kits have been available in SA for about six months. Mr Durney said because body hair was slower to grow, it could sometimes tell if drugs had been used more than six months ago.
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http://www.news.com.au/parents-use-private-investigators-on-kids/story-e6frfkp9-1225805939625
 
totally fucked... sorry - its not hard to tell if your kids are on drugs, if you got with the programme parents, you'd know the signs. Or if you ever tried drugs in your youth, which i daresay is likely - you should be able to tell the actions they take to hide it.

Or be open with kids from the start, i never had anything ot hide from my parents, and im glad it was that way, our relation is much better because of it. Even things like heroin addiction i was open about because they were supportive and not judgemental.
 
You're obviously not much of a parent if you need drug tests and private investigators to look after your children.
 
Jordan` said:
You're obviously not much of a parent if you need drug tests and private investigators to look after your children.
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Agreed

This sort of thing leads to child run aways more than child safety.

I'm glad i had understanding folks that didn't buy into media hype.

I can only begin to imagine some of the rebellion from kids that have been through this treatment!

One way to kill your child's trust for life 8)
 
There weren't private investigators doing this back when i was a teen.

My friends who were taunted/followed by their folks all left home early and a large percentage of them ended up being the heaviest drug users from the youngest age

Speak to your kids, tell them the truth about drugs and have a happy (happier) family life

Be a nosey tool and expect to lose respect and love from your children
 
This is news is it?
I could've sworn it was advertising for a private investigation firm and a particular brand of home drug test.
This is gold:
"However, don't feel guilty if there's been some abnormal behaviour - you might be saving them from some pretty drastic predicaments."
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I can't help but read that as "However, don't feel like you can't give me your money to spy on your children if you start to realise its wrong - you may be putting my kids through college"
 
Pretty much. I know a few people who have had the drug testing put on them by their parents but the parents already knew anyways.

Having an un-openminded and drug hating family has never stopped me but has caused a lot of arguments and negative energy and it really only made things worse.
 
This is pretty ridiculous, any parent that needs to hire someone to spy on their kids to know if they are on drugs is a fuckwit. Either the signs will be obvious or they are not doing enough to impact on them in any way and your just being intrusive. I have to take the odd drug test and it fucking sucks, in a way I am thankful for it because it keeps me off daily bongs and when I smoke full time I am anxious. I am lucky because I do it on my own timetable so I can still use plenty of drugs but just have to plan ahead. It really does create a big sense of distrust and can lead to problems.
 
This thread is hilarious lol

Spies? The parents must be loaded to afford that n to waste so much money on it. They need to educate the children about the dangers and effects and everything. They will never be able to completely stop there children from drug usage but yea a good way to blow there trust with there kid.
 
I have a pretty open relationship with my parents regarding drugs the past few years (I'm 20). It has only helped me through hard times and kept me safe from myself I guess.

Hiding your use, and sweeping issues under the carpet when your still living at home will only lead to a worse outcome. Keeping things out in the open is really important in a family atmosphere IMO. Then again, it all depends on the type of parents/family you have. I've been very lucky.

I get drug tested, but not because of my parents, I get tested because I'm scripted dex-amphetamine and apparently it's required by law that if your known to be a drug user your required to be tested for a period of time. Currently it is weekly, soon it will be monthly, until eventually I'm expecting I'd have developed a trust between myself and my psychiatrist and drug tests will no longer be necessary.
 
It's a pretty destructive thing to do imo. I don't believe intervention style treatments help anyone get off drugs -it has to be the person's decision. All this will do is destroy any level of trust so the kid will hide their drug use more, and pull away from any kind of support.

I'm not sure what the best approach for parents' to take is, definitely taking a no tolerance approach doesn't help, but I'm not convinced having completely lax parents like mine helped either, though I wouldn't have had it any other way when I was younger.
 
Honestly i think this is bullshit. I agree with Sustanon regarding the trust that you could lose with your parent's. I would go off if i found out that they hired investigator's.. Come to think of it though my mum is pretty much one anyway..

All she seems to ever do is make excuses to be in my room, opening this, opening that, constantly asking me question's about who Ive been with, what Ive been doing, when and why...

As Puckboy mentioned, yea an open relationship is good but IMO some thing's (drug related) are best kept secret.. I think the best bet for parent's is to be honest, explain thing's clearly and the most important thing is not to bullshit..
 
GurnEr JoshE said:
Honestly i think this is bullshit. I agree with Sustanon regarding the trust that you could lose with your parent's. I would go off if i found out that they hired investigator's.. Come to think of it though my mum is pretty much one anyway..

All she seems to ever do is make excuses to be in my room, opening this, opening that, constantly asking me question's about who Ive been with, what Ive been doing, when and why...

As Puckboy mentioned, yea an open relationship is good but IMO some thing's (drug related) are best kept secret.. I think the best bet for parent's is to be honest, explain thing's clearly and the most important thing is not to bullshit..
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Fuck.. this happens to me all the time. Talk about inducing a bad trip.....

Even when it's just the green dragon's paranoia it is hard enough watching them poke around stuff.

A long time ago, I remember Mum looking through my shelf, I saw her pick up this zip lock baggie.. it was full of screws (I'm a computer geek) and she put it back down, looked over at me and I just burst out laughing. She asked me what was so funny, and I told her nothing

:)
 
My mates mum found 20 heart shaped pills on the soap holder in the bathroom while one of my mates was gelling his hair ready to go out clubbing, she asked whats this? He replied thats just sum creatine tablets lol

Was hilarious haha
 
Indulge me a short story here BLers...

A friend of mine, an only child, has very protective parents who mean well and want to see him have the best in life. To be honest, I think their attitude was one of the reasons he started smoking weed and became pretty dependent and fell into a big hole. All the suspicion, distrust and punishment just pushed him to smoke more often.

When they finalised realised it wasn't helping, and actually talked to him about why he smoked and were honest about their concerns, he felt confident enough to open up and be completely honest himself, about his drug use and the effect it was having on him.

They completely changed their approach and he felt supported enough to share his problems with them. They helped him to get counselling to treat his depression, and now he's only smoked a couple of times in the last 3 years, because he didn't need that crutch to help him deal with them any more. Just goes to show a different approach can have markedly different outcomes - he was happier, and they achieved their goal of helping him grow into the best person he can be.

I really wish more parents could take this approach rather than resorting to negative tactics like spying - though that's a pretty extreme route to take!

It's had to turn this kind of news into positive practical action, though. If any of your friends were in the above scenario, I doubt their parents would take kindly to someone telling them how to parent their kid! Perhaps talk to the friend first and help them have to confidence to be honest with their parents and be direct in asking for the support they need? I'd hope that most parents would respect this, and see it as an opportunity to offer their child support when they need it most.
 
I know a slightly similar story.



There is nothing like the the feeling when your mother accuses you of being stoned (and get angry and upset) when you are stone cold sober.
 
Jakeperson said:
I know a slightly similar story.



There is nothing like the the feeling when your mother accuses you of being stoned (and get angry and upset) when you are stone cold sober.
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Sorry I must disagree, the REAL worst feeling is when your mother accuses you of being stoned when you're completely blitzed!

Haha I came home a few weeks ago about 8 hours after dropping some paper and they go "are you sunburnt! Let me see your face" and the LAST thing I wanted to do was make eye-contact with them...

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I've had that. Except my mother knew straight away. I've been caught in both states. Its good to know the trust some one has in you when they start accusing you of being on drugs when you aren't. Especially when that person is the only member of your close family.
 
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