Newbie needs info on injecting benzo

[shootinbenzo]

Hello,

My name is Clonny and I live in NY. I suffer from horrific anxiety. I've been taking benzo in high doses since the 80s. Of course, they've stopped working...orally. There's little quality to my life due to the debilitating anxiety, and I'm looking into injecting dissolved pills of clonazepam, etc. Last night I used a Sterifilt, clean syringe, followed all the harm reduction recommendations carefully, but felt no beneficial effect after injecting 1mg clonazepam into my arm vein. I'm reading benzo isn't water soluble, so shooting up is futile. I hope I'm not violating TOS here, but would it help to cook the Klonopin in a "cooker" like the opiate crowd does? Any suggestions on what to do to get this to work?

I genuinely suffer, but I'm in health care, so I know all the risks of embolism, cardiac infection, etc. and I promise you I'm trying my best to be safer.

Thanks, peace.

 

[Quasimoto]

Indeed some are not water soluble, you would have to dissolve it in ethanol.

But there is truly no point in doing this. It will not provide a rush, nor it will it increase the effect or duration, because benzos already have near 100% oral bioavailability. It's truly pointless doing this, all you are doing is damaging your veins and body by injecting pill filler. The ONLY thing this will accomplish, even if done properly, is it will reach peak plasma levels a bit quicker... but that is going to be offset by the time you spend prepping the needle. So it's also a waste of time on top of being pointless.

If you need the psychological fix of shooting up, just eat the benzo and IV some saline.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

DON'T DO THIS!!

I stupidly injected clonazepam back in my days before I knew much about pharmacology. And it didn't do anything at all.

I don't think benzos are water soluble, so you're basically just injecting fillers & binders from the pill, which can be really dangerous on your circulatory system, with no benefit of the clonazepam working.

No, cooking a benzo isn't going to do anything. Most of the time when you see people "cooking" dope on a spoon, it's usually to kill off the bacteria, not necessarily to make it more shoot-able. Some might say it helps concentrate it down more but I digress. A lot of people don't even do the spoon thing, it's mostly just something shown in Hollywood movies to make heroin use look even more tedious & ridiculous.

There are IV benzo preperations, as my mom had IV ativan in the hospital when going through chemo. But I'm pretty sure the IV version of that is created to be an IV form, rather than a pill form. So I don't think there's a way to make clonazepam pills IV-able at home.

Have you tried sublingually? I've been on clonazepam for many years & I don't even bother with oral use. I just let it dissolve under my tongue & it kicks in within minutes instead of hours. I would give this a shot & as much as you'll prolly hate to hear it, you need to cut your doses down & lower your tolerance if you want them to work again. That's really the only thing you can do.

Try using other things for your anxiety on off days, like chamomile, kava, etc.. It's not going to help a whole lot but it's better than nothing & it sounds like your tolerance is so high that the benzos aren't helping anyway.


I wonder why sublingual benzos work though, but IV doesn't. You would think they'd need to be water soluble to absorb under the tongue, can anyone explain this to me? Is it because benzos are lipophilic? Does something only need to be lipophilic in order to absorb through a mucus membrane?

 

[Quasimoto]

I'm afraid the harsh reality of being on benzos for 40+ years is that some permanent changes have occurred in your brain, and you have insane levels of tolerance. Switching ROAs is not going to change much in this situation. Your best bet here is to switch benzos, up the dose, add another medication to your regimen, or potentiate it with other drugs.

There is speculative evidence that muscimol can actually reverse benzo dependence by stimulating the receptor enough to counteract the receptor rigidity caused by benzo dependence. I have used this during a taper and it seemed effective. However, you need to do some a lot of research before attempting this, particularly on how to prepare the mushrooms or where to get it. If you are interested PM me, and I can more thoroughly explain when I have some more time. Muscimol is the primary psychoactive compound in Amanita Muscaria mushrooms. On top of potentially reversing dependence, it is psychoactive on it's own as a GABA receptor agonist.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

Welcome to blueworld

I think everyone here has already stressed how bad the idea is. So just swallow the mofos and if they stopped working then maybe swap them out for another or increase dose as also mentioned

Best of luck