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dirtyblond1991

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Hello,
I'm a 31 year old guy who, a few months ago, went from being a life long believer in the right-wing view of drugs. Was in SADD (Students against destructive deciond) from 9th-12th grade (ages 15-18).

I got curious about hard drugs a few months ago and did T with a hookup (I'm gay) for 6 hours. But didn't have any cravings or withdraws after. Did it again a month later and twice this week. No withdraws.

I've also done coke and G too.

I know those on the autism spectrum who were full-on pulp fiction for years while they were constantly doing coke and meth. But once they stopped -- no withdraws. Any studies, or anecdotes here, that can reflect what I said in this paragraph?

I like coke and T bc it feels like I'm on ADHD meds again, which benefited me as they kept me focused, but without the wothdraws. Hence why I stopped taking them (been on all of them, I'm sure lol).

I have also been reading a great deal of Dr Carl Hart's work and was astounded by his conclusions and his criticisms of past studies.

As a rule, I need to be mindful when I do this and to have to already be in a good state of mind. I've always been the perpetual optimist, so that isn't hard.

I'm seeking harm reduction advice and will also post there.
 
Being a perpetual optimist in relation to thinking about the negative effects hard drugs might have on you is a recipe for disaster. If you’re going to take them then you want to be just the opposite and be super cautious. There’s absolutely nothing special about you that will prevent you from suffering from the consequences in the same way anyone else would.

Re: not getting withdrawal from coke and meth…well they’re not really drugs that cause physical withdrawal. I know people consider meth to cause some withdrawal and I haven’t used it enough to find out really, but it’s absolutely not in the same league as opiates/benzos/alcohol. It’s primarily the psychological addiction that is the issue with stimulants (which is no less problematic than physical withdrawal). ADHD meds do not cause withdrawal either. A nasty comedown sure, but withdrawal no.

Just be very careful with your use of these substances, having done so a handful of times doesn’t really give you a window on to the destructive potential of them. Don’t be fooled in to thinking they are not extremely dangerous.
 
im 35 and was diagnosed with aspergers aged 27. I found some benefits in self medicating with some RC's when i was younger,

I found alot of benefits from a number of chemicals, but as THECATINTHEHAT says the substances you mention you should be very careful with.

Its sad that the stigma surrounding "drugs" in general is bad because some substances i feel have the ability to help us process our emotions and thoughts, taking psilocybin when i was 17 opened my eyes to the world, also got alot of benefits from the use of MDMA in settings with close friends, same for aMT, 2C-x's (some of them more than others) and also weed first made me very introspective but that feeling faded with abuse.

As with everything in life, moderation is the key.

stay safe out there, Bare_head
 
dirtyblond1991 said:
Hello,
I'm a 31 year old guy who, a few months ago, went from being a life long believer in the right-wing view of drugs. Was in SADD (Students against destructive deciond) from 9th-12th grade (ages 15-18).

I got curious about hard drugs a few months ago and did T with a hookup (I'm gay) for 6 hours. But didn't have any cravings or withdraws after. Did it again a month later and twice this week. No withdraws.

I've also done coke and G too.

I know those on the autism spectrum who were full-on pulp fiction for years while they were constantly doing coke and meth. But once they stopped -- no withdraws. Any studies, or anecdotes here, that can reflect what I said in this paragraph?

I like coke and T bc it feels like I'm on ADHD meds again, which benefited me as they kept me focused, but without the wothdraws. Hence why I stopped taking them (been on all of them, I'm sure lol).

I have also been reading a great deal of Dr Carl Hart's work and was astounded by his conclusions and his criticisms of past studies.

As a rule, I need to be mindful when I do this and to have to already be in a good state of mind. I've always been the perpetual optimist, so that isn't hard.

I'm seeking harm reduction advice and will also post there.
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What is T? Testosterone?
 
Have to echo what everone else has said

OP you are not special - play with fire equals getting burn. You are in a 'honeymoon' phase wit drugs right now and it does not last. Often by the time the honeymoon ends it's too late for some people with regard to addiction / problematic drug use

Also mate, I have to say that quite a bit of Carl Hart's stuff is wishful thinking, quite likely influenced by his own addiction. Of course he makes some (usually not at all new) great points but I was very disappointed with his latest book

Be very careful friend, welcome to BL
 
Dirtyblond91 said:
was in Studens Against Destructive Decions from 15-19 years of are. There teachings only merrit disolved Feb is this year. I like missing out after decades .


In Feb, I tried Tina (Crystal Meth). I haven't had withdraws. I haven't had any sort of desire to do it again. I barely remeber the first night. I had, imediate impact to feel good enough and focus but only lasted a few dayd

What's a good way to regulate? I heard only do it beteeen a few days. Would it be personally detrimental after a few hours passed and I did it again?

I tried it again yesterday morning. 7-11AM. Had work at midnight to 8am. Yet, I always, overslept midway thru the 4rs.99
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THECATINTHEHAT said:
Being a perpetual optimist in relation to thinking about the negative effects hard drugs might have on you is a recipe for disaster. If you’re going to take them then you want to be just the opposite and be super cautious. There’s absolutely nothing special about you that will prevent you from suffering from the consequences in the same way anyone else would.

Re: not getting withdrawal from coke and meth…well they’re not really drugs that cause physical withdrawal. I know people consider meth to cause some withdrawal and I haven’t used it enough to find out really, but it’s absolutely not in the same league as opiates/benzos/alcohol. It’s primarily the psychological addiction that is the issue with stimulants (which is no less problematic than physical withdrawal). ADHD meds do not cause withdrawal either. A nasty comedown sure, but withdrawal no.

Just be very careful with your use of these substances, having done so a handful of times doesn’t really give you a window on to the destructive potential of them. Don’t be fooled in to thinking they are not extremely dangerous.
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ageingpartyfiend said:
Have to echo what everone else has said

OP you are not special - play with fire equals getting burn. You are in a 'honeymoon' phase wit drugs right now and it does not last. Often by the time the honeymoon ends it's too late for some people with regard to addiction / problematic drug use

Also mate, I have to say that quite a bit of Carl Hart's stuff is wishful thinking, quite likely influenced by his own addiction. Of course he makes some (usually not at all new) great points but I was very disappointed with his latest book

Be very careful friend, welcome to BL
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To clarify what I meant by me being the perpetual optimist, I mean I'm not seeking substances to seek happiness or ease stress/anxiety.

Also, I'm strangely cautious and skeptical. I did read quite a bit here, and other places, and heard stories from close people in my life about moderation with drugs.

What led me to this was simple (in a way). A set of realizations released my drug-phobia.

1) learning why they were banned over a century ago.
Using the artical retrival database at my university library, I retrived countless articles on support of criminalizing coke, opiom, pot, and hemp. All of it claimed it made the race of human associated with a drug in question (eg, blacks and coke) into oversexed and amoral savages.

2. Learning about things my (USA) government did which caused me to distrust my government.
Examples:
MKUltra, Tuskagee experiments, the involvement coke had with Iran-Contra (while the wife was telling everyone to "just say no" to coke).
Our involvement in the Iranian revolution.

3. Studying too much Nietchze.

4. I finally asked myself: how the hell could something that makes a person feel so damn great be leathal?

I then got curious on what it would feel like. Wasn't trying to alter, just experiment. I'll say this, in the back of my mind, I was hoping it would enhance my oddly posotive outlook on the world, and my belief that humanity is basically good, and enhance my creativity -- I write (terrible speller and grammarian but a good writer lol ).

T, the 1st thing I tried, basically made me mellow. Literally, it was just as I've been telling people. It had all the good aspects of ADHD meds but without the side-effects. Some euphoria, but not a lot.


I've been practicing metaphysics and stuff like that for 5 years. I can trigger the feeling of an epiphany at a moment's notice (which is why I'm always too damn happy and optimistic). Frankly, the high I get from that, and from accomplishing any goal I set, is much better than the euphoria from the T.

Coke was different. I gained a sense off empathy that I never had before. I did it with my husband. I finally realized, and came to accept, that many of our issues are MY fault. I finally realized that he was bitter as I'm constantly trying to parts about him, his personality, certain mannerisms, that weren't wrong --- just odd. And I realized I was being my parents.

They overcriticized everything I did -- down to the way I put on my pants. I was my parents toy dolly, basically. They were constantly trying to mold me into a younger version of them two.

And me realising that really helped grow our relatiomship. After the come down, and even now 2 weeks later, his idiosyncrasies know longer bother me. Rather, I find then cute.


Overall I'm not too wild about the T. I do like coke

Mdma and LSD are next
 
dirtyblond1991 said:
To clarify what I meant by me being the perpetual optimist, I mean I'm not seeking substances to seek happiness or ease stress/anxiety.

Also, I'm strangely cautious and skeptical. I did read quite a bit here, and other places, and heard stories from close people in my life about moderation with drugs.

What led me to this was simple (in a way). A set of realizations released my drug-phobia.

1) learning why they were banned over a century ago.
Using the artical retrival database at my university library, I retrived countless articles on support of criminalizing coke, opiom, pot, and hemp. All of it claimed it made the race of human associated with a drug in question (eg, blacks and coke) into oversexed and amoral savages.

2. Learning about things my (USA) government did which caused me to distrust my government.
Examples:
MKUltra, Tuskagee experiments, the involvement coke had with Iran-Contra (while the wife was telling everyone to "just say no" to coke).
Our involvement in the Iranian revolution.

3. Studying too much Nietchze.

4. I finally asked myself: how the hell could something that makes a person feel so damn great be leathal?

I then got curious on what it would feel like. Wasn't trying to alter, just experiment. I'll say this, in the back of my mind, I was hoping it would enhance my oddly posotive outlook on the world, and my belief that humanity is basically good, and enhance my creativity -- I write (terrible speller and grammarian but a good writer lol ).

T, the 1st thing I tried, basically made me mellow. Literally, it was just as I've been telling people. It had all the good aspects of ADHD meds but without the side-effects. Some euphoria, but not a lot.


I've been practicing metaphysics and stuff like that for 5 years. I can trigger the feeling of an epiphany at a moment's notice (which is why I'm always too damn happy and optimistic). Frankly, the high I get from that, and from accomplishing any goal I set, is much better than the euphoria from the T.

Coke was different. I gained a sense off empathy that I never had before. I did it with my husband. I finally realized, and came to accept, that many of our issues are MY fault. I finally realized that he was bitter as I'm constantly trying to parts about him, his personality, certain mannerisms, that weren't wrong --- just odd. And I realized I was being my parents.

They overcriticized everything I did -- down to the way I put on my pants. I was my parents toy dolly, basically. They were constantly trying to mold me into a younger version of them two.

And me realising that really helped grow our relatiomship. After the come down, and even now 2 weeks later, his idiosyncrasies know longer bother me. Rather, I find then cute.


Overall I'm not too wild about the T. I do like coke

Mdma and LSD are next
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I’m curious what the T actually was. Was it a pill, powder?
 
Welcome.

Your ASD neurology doesn't render you immune from addiction or bad decisions. The slippery slope can steepen very suddenly, so stay alert, especially for changes in how you assess risk.

"I know those on the autism spectrum who were full-on pulp fiction for years while they were constantly doing coke and meth. But once they stopped -- no withdraws. Any studies, or anecdotes here, that can reflect what I said in this paragraph?"

I don't know what that means. I'm autistic, FWIW.
 
I've been doing meth every 2-3 days for the past month
This is my 6th day of not doing it. Why am I not feeling any withdraws/cravings? I thought that was supposed to happen. Or does it take a while? I'm basically chose to break from it fora while but was prepared for the worst.
 
Can't answer your question, I've never done T, but perhaps you're not feeling w/d because you weren't a daily user of high amounts?

Welcome to BL!
 
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