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new to psychedelics and dissociates

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NetRang3r

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so i have been taking DXM for a while now. no CCC's just the DXM only zicam. I have also tried acid twice and shrooms once. and i have been reading this forum alot trying to decide where to go next, i see alot of words being thrown around that i have never seen before like DMT and the such, just looking for some input.
also im trying to find some that cant be tested for sucah as the DXM as i am tested on a fairly regular basis. im not asking "what should i take" i know that is against the rules but i would like some friendly input as to what other people like. thanks.
 
what Delsyd said.. erowid is your best bet. I've literally read through every substance listed on erowid, and that was only the tip of the iceberg. Google what you find interesting, search the forums here for any info and experiences on the matter.
 
I agree with these guys^. Start with erowid and then read bluelight for more detailed first hand reports and information/opinions.
 
yeah i have been on erowid and they have a ton of info, and i have also been reading these forum, especially the trip reports, but unfortunately i am at work and erowid is blocked but this site is open, i think i might want to look into dmt and 5-MeO-DALT, and i am thinking about trying to make some LSA from hbwr seeds. anyone have any experiance with LSA? havent seen anything on the site, maybe i am searching wrong.
 
thanks shambles, i actually just found that link before i re read this thread, seems i was searching to hard. and i will be sure to check out the link in your thread.
 
If you're new to this then 5-MeO-DAlT sounds like a pretty inappropriate compound to start with. It is just not obvious and becomes interesting when you have covered the common territory, if you ask me - even then, I have covered a lot of compounds and still it doesn't really attract me. It also doesn't seem to have qualities that are so intriguing that they would make this all any different. Enough people say that it is a little ecstacy like which is kind of interesting but they also say it is just not special. And there are so many things that are special!!

Sorry but I'm not going to suggest anything to you but the classic psychedelics which are 'proven' goldies, and to read both the 'main' drugs of erowids page and use our great index.

The First Time Tripper thread should be good for you, apart from that I think it's not ideal to ask what other people like. Everyone is different, likes different things and uses it for slightly different purposes and going from what others like is just not appropriate when you are just starting to get interested, get what I mean?
It's like being thrown in the deep end, but its less random if you just check everything that is available to you and the most often used psychedelics and compare their descriptions and qualities with what appeals to you. It's better to ask yourself well what it is that you are looking for in these types of experiences and investigate that efficiently instead of just bumping into stuff untill you find it by accident.

Welcome to bluelight man!

Hmm I've thought about it a minute, if you explain well here what it is that you would like, what you expect and what sounds great to you that we can try and match something to that.
Then Ima close this ;)
 
what i would like is some insight as to what will let you explore yourself more than dex. i have tried acid, and when i did i took one hit, it wasnt that strong, all i experienced was trails and a few open eye visuals / objects shape shifting. the second time i tried acid, i took 3 hits and i blacked out. i never black out on dex and i have been in high 3rd plateau territory. i guess i could just go with dex on to the 4th plateau or maybe try a dex / mush combo to really get to where i want to go. sorry if this is confusing im having a hard time expressing my thoughts.

I have been doing alot of reserch and quite frankly im not 100% sure where to go. it all seems so confusing, its like the more i read the more questions i have. thanks for everyones help.
 
Well tryptamines are good for that^ at least a bit better than phenethylamines generally. Though its not that clear cut, tryptamines have a bigger propensity to show you stuff about the universe, philosophy, cosmic metaphysical stuff while phenethylamines are more superficial, rational, understandible, fun and down to earth.
But there are tryptamines that are mostly fun (5-MeO-DiPT was for me) and there are phenethylamines that are therapeutical and insightful as hell (like 2C-T-7 was for me).
Research chemicals are not the most basic ones so not great to begin with. They are more like a variation on the classic psychedelics, and have fantastic novelty value if you have gathered a good understanding of the less exotic compounds they are based on.
The classic psychedelics of the tryptamines is mushrooms so I think that would be a good option for you. Whatever you do don't combine them with DXM the very first time, it is a bad idea to use a drug that you have never used before in a combination right away.

Lastly I wanna underline what I said before: just start with the basics of your research. Then work your way up. And ignore your initial confusion because it's natural that many questions are raised.
 
Take it slow.

You have all the time in the world to take all kinds of things barely anyone has heard about.
 
If i ever have the opportunity to become someones sort of 'psychedelic guru', i will definitely start them off with mescaline, preferably in the form of cactus tea. mainly because it is absolutely not 'user-friendly', a bit harder to consume, but extremely rewarding...and mellow in contrast with some of the other psych top dogs. it would be like my initial test to them, see if they're willing to learn through trial and error and continue from there.

do you smoke weed? weed taught me alot about anxiety, and controlling my mind when i start to feel panicy. mainly because it often pushes my mind in that direction...
 
i used to smoke weed, not anymore because my job requires very random drung testing, and i cant risk loosing my job. but i have always heard great things about mescaline from some of my friends. thats why i mostly stick to DXM cause mush and acid are hard to come by where i live, and those are the only ones that i know of that i cant be tested for. . . . besides DXM which from what i gather can sometimes yeild a false positive.
 
well, listen to what others are saying and check out erowid. check out the cacti vault, if you're interested in that stuff.
 
I think this thread has run it's course and has been redirected sufficiently so I'm going to close it. If you have any further questions feel free to ask them in the corresponding thread.
 
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