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Opioids new to fentanyl

Fentanyl is a very potent synthetic opioid and is a great pain reliever but it isn't exactly all that euphoric. The synthetic opioids are generally not as euphoric as the natural opiate and their immediate families (ie. morphine, diactylmorphine, nicomorphine, etc). The only synthetic opioids which I find very euphoric and very similar in effect to the naturals and semi-synthetics are pethidine/meperidine (Demerol) and some of its derivatives, levorphanol (Levo-Dromoran), piritramide, ketobemidone, dextromoramide (Palfium) and a few others.
 
The most euphoric opiates are morphine, heroin (morphine diacetate or diacetylmorphine which is a morphine prodrug making the two drugs essentially one and the same), nicomorphine (morphine dinicotinate), dipropanoylmorphine (morphine dipropionate), diacetyldihydromorphine, acetylpropionylmorphine, dibenzoylmorphine, 6-monoacetylmorphine, etc. These are all esters of morphine and morphine's immediate family.

Next in line are some of the semi-synthetics and some synthetics also like ketobemidone, dextromoramide, desomorphine, methyldesomorphine, pethidine/meperidine, dihydroetorphine, etorphine, dihydromorphine, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, levorphanol, fentanyl, sufentanil, alfentanil, pentamorphone, heterocodeine, hydroxycodeinone, metopon, hydromorphinol, dihydroheterocodeine, acetylmorphone, etc.

Then come hydrocodone, oxycodone, thebacon, chloromorphide, methadone, dihydrocodeine, buprenorphine, butorphanol, codeine, etc.

That's how I see it, anyways.
 
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kokaino said:
The most euphoric opiates are morphine, heroin (morphine diacetate or diacetylmorphine which is a morphine prodrug making the two drugs essentially one and the same), nicomorphine (morphine dinicotinate), dipropanoylmorphine (morphine dipropionate), diacetyldihydromorphine, acetylpropionylmorphine, dibenzoylmorphine, 6-monoacetylmorphine, etc. These are all esters of morphine and morphine's immediate family.

Next in line are some of the semi-synthetics like ketobemidone, dextromoramide, desomorphine, methyldesomorphine, pethidine/meperidine, dihydroetorphine, etorphine, dihydromorphine, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, levorphanol, fentanyl, sufentanil, alfentanil, pentamorphone, heterocodeine, hydroxycodeinone, metopon, hydromorphinol, dihydroheterocodeine, acetylmorphone, etc.

Then come hydrocodone, oxycodone, thebacon, chloromorphide, methadone, dihydrocodeine, buprenorphine, butorphanol, codeine, etc.

That's how I see it, anyways.
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Sorry to get off subject,
Kokaino,
Would you mind telling me your experience with Levorphanol, and Nucynta if you know anything about the latter? My MD has mentioned those drugs to me, but it doesn't seem like many people have lots of experience with them. If you prefer, I'd welcome a PM :)
 
macd610 said:
Sorry to get off subject,
Kokaino,
Would you mind telling me your experience with Levorphanol, and Nucynta if you know anything about the latter? My MD has mentioned those drugs to me, but it doesn't seem like many people have lots of experience with them. If you prefer, I'd welcome a PM :)
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I haven't had experience with many (most actually) of the drugs I listed but I have had experience with levorphanol. Nucynta, however, I have never have experienced so I can't directly compare the two. But I can tell you that levorphanol is a superb painkiller and at the time I did it I found it quite euphoric as well. It is long acting (not as long acting as methadone) but it has a quick onset. It feels like a true narcotic, almost like a semi-synthetic even though it's a completely synthetic opioid. I'd compare it most to methadone but with a much quicker onset and it is much more recreational. It's very sedating (a lot of nodding), lots of itchiness, and quite euphoric.
 
kokaino said:
I haven't had experience with many (most actually) of the drugs I listed but I have had experience with levorphanol. Nucynta, however, I have never have experienced so I can't directly compare the two. But I can tell you that levorphanol is a superb painkiller and at the time I did it I found it quite euphoric as well. It is long acting (not as long acting as methadone) but it has a quick onset. It feels like a true narcotic, almost like a semi-synthetic even though it's a completely synthetic opioid. I'd compare it most to methadone but with a much quicker onset and it is much more recreational. It's very sedating (a lot of nodding), lots of itchiness, and quite euphoric.
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Thanks, Kokaino! Sorry to bother you, but...
I've no experience with the drugs you compared L to. I've had Oxycodone ir, Fentanyl patch, Morphine ir, Demerol, Dilaudid, hydrocodone, oxymorphone ir...hmm, that's about it as far as opioids go. Any way you can use this info to compare L in terms I could understand?
Thanks for your time;it's much appreciated :)
Cat
 
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