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I am using black tar, been smoking it for a few months almost a 1/2 - 1 gram daily... dependent at this point, tolerance increasing running out of money. I had 8 years clean, but couldn't live with the physical pain anymore (of course there are underlying issues), so I picked up a script for hydrocodone over a year ago, then onto insulffating A 213's... now H. I've had multi level discectomies in my neck and live with chronic pain. I tapered off the roxi's on my own very slowly but can't get off Heroin. I don't know how much I am smoking (within the gram I have hit per hit) so I have no compass to navigate and just end up smoking every morning as I have been waking up sick. Some in the afternoon, then more at night to sleep. I'm not looking forward to living much at the moment ... only the cessation of pain when I have the morning hit (It takes about 8 hits to feel normal, or under a false sense of homeostasis), to get out of bed and onto my day. Around 2 I get that nodd, sometimes not always... and it's the most depressing state in the world for me, cos I know I'll need more later and don't want it. I suppose my question is maybe I could insulfate (I just cut some up with sugar) to cut down or try some methadone pills I picked up (instead of the smoking roi). I also have a bottle of Neurontin, as I used to take it for nerve pain and I know it's used for withdrawals. I know with methadone one has to wait. If I know what I'm ingesting, how much... maybe I can cut down again.

Not sure how this site works, so if I don't get back soon, that is why. Thank you everyone for the welcomes. I don't want to reply to them all, as I got a message about 180 minutes do not post or something rather... Ty so much! :)
 
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Welcome to bluelight!!

Smoking heroin does get to be really shitty I had to wake up every 2-3 hours and smoke more and go back to sleep every night. If I got high at 10 and went to bed by 10:30 or so I would be up at 1am drenched in sweat cold as shit and just plain sick until I did more heroin then I could sleep again till about 4-5am then I wake up sick again if I didn't have any I would have to lay in bed sick all night until I went to work at 7 it was the worst life I could have been leading. Snorting it does make it last so much longer that is a better idea but it will still be heroin and you will be addicted still.
Try getting on a suboxone program that will help you live a normal life and you can save your money. I've been on suboxone for a year and I don't even think about heroin I would rather have suboxone now to tell you the truth. If it worked for me it should for you I had a decade of drug use I used to deal with kilos of coke and heroin selling drugs and I was IVing an 8-ball of close to pure China white Heroin daily with cocaine in almost every shot I was hopelessly hooked to Speedball's and was dying slowly. All I need now is 0.3mg of suboxone every 6 hours and I'm buzzing all day without needing to do heroin.

Its Nice to have you on board:)

Good luck let me know if you need any help and have fun.:)
These will give you some insight on how the site is run and the rules

Green lighters(newbies) guide-
http://wiki.bluelight.org/index.php/Greenlighters_guide

Bluelight user agreement-

http://wiki.bluelight.org/index.php/Bluelight_User_Agreement_(BLUA)


If you want some help getting around the site or a buddy to talk to then you can always message me Im on the list of people willing to adopt you can find the link if you want to be adopted by me or another experienced member here-

Nmi adoption program-

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/665029-The-NMI-Adoption-Program-v-2014

Here are some drug forums you may like-

Other drugs-
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/forums/58-Other-Drugs

Basic drug discussion-
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/forums/16-Basic-Drug-Discussion

Sober living-
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/forums/269-Sober-Living

Good luck don't be afraid to ask for help that's what I'm here for,
 
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Thank you kindly for the welcome. It sounds like it was quite a nightmare while in partial waking state for you on and off all night. Argh! I am waking up earlier and earlier and could be on my way to that point actually, so I need to quit now. Yeah... the smoking is the worst as with the 1/2 life and shorter duration via roi the withdrawals come on much quicker than snorting. With the roxi's I didn't have to use so quickly, but yeah even though insulfating might prolong some pain, the pain is still there. No way around but through. And, one is still addicted, the delusion one is not is like a narcotic in itself. Cocaine/valium used to be my doc long combo long ago.
I took a methadone pill and not doing great but don't feel the pull so much to use the H yet. I'm going to try to sleep without using it if I can.

Suboxone might be the way to go with my pain issues, unless methadone would be better. I just know one has to wait and hit withdrawals first before initiating Subs. At least if memory serves and see a doctor.

Interesting. I'll look into the adoption area and other links. You really had a struggle. Congratulations on getting on suboxone. Just this methadone pill doesn't feel like such a roller coaster ride, but I'll see in a few hours.
Thanks!
 
Yea suboxone is fine for pain too I have chronic pain and the sub works pretty dam good actually like taking percocets or vicodan you just need to stick to low doses to get the pain relief /euphoria high doses don't do shit except make you feel like shit. Methadone is extremely difficult to get off and so hard on the body your colon will eventually stop processing food if your stomach is like mine.
And sub's are not hard to get on yea you go ta da in withdrawal but I wait 4 hours after my last abit of heroin then I take my sub and voila in back to normal.6 hours is probably good amount if time to wait for you I have a fast metabolism. I take 0.3 mgs every 6 hours and I don't even think about other opiates I would rather do a suboxone than heorin now and I was doing an 8 ball a day of pure China white for almost a decade while selling kilos of coke and heroin. I was close to death and thought I was done for before suboxne came along and saved me.
 
Hiya Smoky,

Welcome aboard the Bluelight ship.

In regards to suboxone, I disagree with Trainspotter on the pain issue. I find that I am more sensitive to pain whilst on buprenorphine. However, Smoky, if you'd like to discuss the issue further you may find the Suboxone/ Buprenorphine Megathread and FAQ V.18.0 useful. You may also The Opioid Withdrawal Megathread and Methadone Megathread
Other Drugs (OD) has a list of Megathreads so you may wish to look at that and see if any other links are of benefit to you. Hope this helps.

Please feel free to ask any questions about the site of whatever. It's lovely to have another newcomer on board.

New Members Introductions has its own - Social Thread where both Bluelighters and Greenlighters participate, from all areas of Bluelight. I'll also give you the link to Bluelight's Adoption Programme encase it's something that may interest you. If it is, please feel free to comment on that thread expressing your interest.

Wishing you an ace Bluelight experience!
Evey
 
Hey. IMO, SubX doesn't do jack for my pain, and I'm on the equivalent to 800mgs of morph, per diem. Nurofen does more IMO... in fact I'm trying to get off my dose to do something about it. SubX saved me too, but it took a while to realise. I miss H, but again IMO it's NOT the same as it was (sound like my parents there)
PtP
 
You should definitely consider methadone or suboxone to help you get off heroin and stabilize.

Being as you live in California you could also seek out CBD-rich cannabis, as it's helped some opiate addicts get clean, but if you have other pain issues sticking with a long-acting opioid will probably be more comfortable.
 
Methadone works wonderfully, I tried subs and methadone adn methadone is what has worked and kept me clean the longest!
 
I think I replied in the wrong place. Yes, I have heard long term opiate use can change the brain. And with chronic pain I will need something. Of course I need to contact a doctor, but I do have 3 methadone pills. I took one 2 days ago and didn't have to smoke as much H. I also felt it in my system the next day. Thanks!
 
Sometimes parents are onto something, even if I don't think so. ha! I am weaning off and having withdrawals. Nurofen is? I will look it up. I'm surprised I have not heard of it with my background in just about every drug. :) It seems Subx has saved many. Thank you PhuckThePhilth. :)
 
Hi Eveleivibe - Thank you kindly for the links, I've just been posting here, but need to move around this site for help. I think another welcomer suggested the adoption program. I'll look at that. I'm waiting on medical insurance and hopefully can receive something soon. At the moment I am weaning off the H and have some Neurontin. I take it in the middle of the night and when I wake up i'm not as sick, although I feel kinda drunk (and don't like alcohol type feeling, but it will keep me tapering regardless).. This is only temporary and I do need more help. I have a couple methadone pills also.

I guess everyone responds differently to each medication per your mention above.

I had 8 years in 12 Step, but I think I need a harm reduction approach this time. Glad Bluelight is here, cos I may or may not be going back to the rooms. :)

I've been replying (so I thought) to each individual message, but I see I am double or tripling... I tried to respond to someone and an announcement popped up (?), and I couldn't reply. That said it's best I read the directions first before coming back. I tend to jump right into things to get a feel, for how it works; which proves helpful sometimes, but not so much all the time.

I look forward to coming back and attempting again to get back to the individual messages soon. I can't think straight on this nerontin and couldn't drive on the freewaytoday, but that's no excuse. :)

be back soon!
 
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Howdy. Yeah... Aussie,. but, same diff. Um, I wasn't making a statement to the power of Ibuprofen - rather the NON power of SubX. I can see, thru reading here - this is JUST me - so take with a grain of salt (NOT scag, lol)
PtP
 
Hiya Smoky,

I'm awful sorry. I thought I had replied to your post, maybe I did and forget to press send.

Smoky you're doing fine with your posting. Don't worry about it. When on a forum like this you can reply to all in the same post and people won't think you are rude or anything. Honestly you're doing fine. you don't need to try again. I didn't mean to make you feel bad about anything and I'm extremely sorry if I did. I'm starting to understand now why the mods pull me up with some things, I have a habit of trying to explain something and it comes across the wrong way. Honestly, you're fine with your posting on here and you seem a pleasant person.

Anyway, can I ask what you mean by "the rooms?" Do you mean NA/AA meetings? Sorry if I have this wrong, but you don't have to stop doing NA/AA because you've come to BL. A lot of people do both simultaneously with no problems at all. Of course, I'm not, and would not, try and tell you what to do. I'm just making the suggestion that is something isn't broken why try and fix it? You wanting a harm reduction approach also, is very good - and why Bluelight is here. This site has saved many lives and helped people in MANY DIFFERENT WAYS! Not always just drug-related it has helped people, for instance I have anger issues - not in a violent way, I don't go punching walls or people or anything like that, just that I've anger inside of me which makes me "verbalise" in not such a nice way - I can lash out and say extremely nasty stuff that can't be taken back - BL has helped me deal with that, I'm not half that person as I was before I came here I am learning to control it. Anyway enough about me, I just wanted to illustrate an example of how BL has also helped people in non-drug related way as well as with drugs.

Take care,
Evey
 
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