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Opioids New to bluelight.. have some questions please help?

I just learned of the CWE here and did it saturday just 4 pills for my back pain, it is easy, go over the CWE mega thread. My back pain went away, I wasnt bloated, didnt feel sick, my sides did not hurt, the CWE is a life saver, literally. The megathread will kinda confuse you if your dumb like me ;)

basically get a ear dropper to measure 5ml's of cold water per pill, grind pills into a DUST, no chunks, say 4 pills, that = 20 ml's of water, squirt water into your ground up pill dust, stir, chill in freezer for about 20 -30 minutes, then all I did was double over a nice thick paper towel and placed that over another small glass and poured the chilled dust filled water in through the paper towel and had this pasty gook left in the paper towel, which I was told was the apap, drank the water and what a HUGE difference it makes. !! if you want you can squirt another 20 mills through your left over gook to make sure your getting all the hydrocodone, but DISCARD that left over pasty gook, thats the apap, garbage, toss it. Hope your doing ok. wishing you well. !!
 
teological said:
Anyone hear back from Miss.Sweets?

Each time I come here, I think about wtf she just did because of drug companies attempts to halt people from getting high. I wonder how she is, if anyone knows please post.
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She logged in yesterday so hopefully she takes the advice and see's a doctor.
 
More ancillary damage from the war on drugs. At least it is Norco (325 mg per). Once in a while you hear about people gobbling footballs (7.5/ 750 apap) in these large quantities. That is even more frightening.
 
teological said:
Her liver can repair itself, but she must get immediate help. I just do not understand how some opiate abusers have not come accross a CWE before.
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Not a chance, the damage is permanent. She may require a transplant in less than 10 years, I would get on the list if I were her, even without symptoms.
 
^ The liver can repair itself to an extent. Ksa is either trolling or posting misinformation, and it wouldn't be the first time they are guilty of these offenses.
 
A lot of misinformation going on in this thread. If you don't know if what you're saying is entirely factual, indicate otherwise or just don't say it.

Telling someone the oral BA of Morphine and Hydrocodone is equivalent is potentially harmful misinformation. In addition, posting a convoluted and inelegant CWE method for someone who's never even heard of it is a surefire way to scare the individual off from even further researching it.

Come on guys.

And OP, get your liver checked. Immediately. Can't be said enough times. It amazes me how people go unaware of the serious dangers of APAP. Thank you government. Their politically based and science-less laws and propoganda make sure people "fear" opiates and trust "safe" OTC meds like harmless tylenol. :X
 
Saosin is dead-on. half the replies in this thread are an embarrassment for a community supposedly focused on harm reduction. in a situation like this, speculation is of no help. FACTS are what is needed.

and please, please OP, heed the advice of all those before me and go to a doctor. acetaminophen is incredibly dangerous in high amounts, and with the kind of chronic, long-term use you're talking about, it is ESSENTIAL that you seek help from a medical professional immediately. be absolutely honest. get your liver enzymes checked. if you're going to keep using, check the CWE mega thread. it is a very simple procedure and plenty of folks will be happy to answer any questions you have.
 
To be fair to OLD GREGG the opiod conversion chart on here has ORAL morphine PO (although not sure what PO means) and hydrocodone listed the same. If this is incorrect then it should be changed.
 
I am just going to throw this in. Morphine will be a very different effect vs. hydrocodone whereas I feel morphine leads to a heavy physical effect while the codiene derived compounds create more of a mental effect with less of a physical effect. If you do use the morphine use it to aid with sleep while using the vicodin during the daytime.

Also as others said do not overlook the stomach and liver damage being done. You only get one.... If your doctor is open to scripting you even knowing your issues I would recommend asking him to switch you to a lower dose of oxycodone IR or ER as they do not contain the acetaminophen as well as it is more potent and requires a smaller dose. I also get the same vicodin as you after the 5/500 where too much for my stomach so that I could take half and have a 5/125 mg dose. The lower acetaminophen is not so you can take more before damaging yourself, but so you can take the dose you are supposed to without hurting your stomach as I have a weak stomach and still get an upset stomach from 125 mg.

Also definitely look into a CWE for the time being as it is super easy and really only takes 1/2 hour to do and is totally worth it so that you can stay safe while relieving your difficult pain.

Please be careful and treat your body right! No one wants you to hurt yourself to get the relief you need!

Edit: HOLY SHIT 20-30 NORCOS A DAY?!??!!? Please seek help.... I get by on one and a half at most a day and usually just half, which my doctor considers still considers a high dose as he should. You need to remember you are using a powerful and highly addictive compound that I am sure at this point you have developed a major physical dependency on making going cold turkey (instantly ceasing) a request to be put through hell. I would highly suggest seeking help in figuring out how to at least reduce your dose if you are not ready to stop your use completely if you do not have the self control to do it yourself. If you are afraid to talk to a doctor please talk to a close friend you can trust for help.
 
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PO = by mouth, so the oral ROA. Therefore the conversion chart is saying that oral morphine and oral hydrocodone are roughly equivalent in terms of analgesic affects. That does not mean that they have the same oral BA, and in fact the BA of oral morphine is 20-40% whereas the BA of oral hydrocodone is 80%.

It is very important to not get these terms messed up because if someone switches ROA's and expects the dose to still be equivalent to the other drugs dose then this can be very dangerous.

The conversion chart stands.
 
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