Please Help, It's Intese, like camping!
Hello all,
I have had an extremely strange (at least to me) experience when using Subs for Temporary (but nasty WD symptoms), which completely turned me off from using Sub's ever again, and I was looking for a reasonable answer, as the supplier of the Sub's never heard of anything like this report happening to anyone ever before.
Before I go into detail, here is my background, or at least current status that may or will have an affect on these medications;
Daily I am prescribed 3-4mg of clonazepam, 0.5-1.0mg of alprazolam if needed (for extreme panic attacks), and 50mg of Sertaline (generic smallest dose of Zoloft) all used in conjunction for panic attacks, and the prevention of attacks from occurring in the first place.
I am very well versed in the combination of benzodiazepines and opiates/opiods and know how to just slow down and not take as much of the benzodiazepines and/or opiates,so no lecture required about Benzo's, as I was taking them as prescribed this entire report, and life for the matter... I Don't need TWO Withdrawals!! ....
My tolerance to opioid(S) is Moderatley75-90mg of oxycodone(IR) to feel a nice buzz for 3-4 hours, and have strayed away from the hydrocodone/apap for that exact reason, the APAP.
I know CWE's would technically work, but then I would burn through ~200mg hydrocodone a day and feel it to be useless, except when running out of all other medications and keep the WD's at bay.
Preferably, which is 90% of the month, I have been insufflating around 10-20mg of oxyMORPHONE, instead, at least 2-3x daily, as it is easily accessible, and works wonders for my back neck pain, not to mention it is one of the greatest feelings that I have come to enjoy.
However, I know this is a TERRIBLE habit to have tossed myself into, but it allows me to get through work, around 3x doses split between 30mg over 14 hour shifts 3x daily, and as minimal as possible before bed.
Without referencing an equivalency chart, in my experience, 30 mg insufflated ~ 160-180mg of insufflated oxycodone ( which I take PO, so equivalent to around 120-145mg oxycodone orally) b/c of the high BA%, compared to insufflation.
So here's to my experience with Suboxone sub-lingual strips:
T- 0:00 - 24-30 hours since last opioid dose - A full 8mg buprenorphine strip was dosed, after I passed my COWS test of approximately 28, to make sure I was in FULL withdrawal and to not shoot into full blown precipitated WD symptoms.
T+ 6:00 - I felt nothing. ZERO. Dosed 2mg clonazepam and 2mg alprazolam to ensure some rest.
T+ 14:00 - Pupils still ENORMOUS, and getting the runs, both from my nose and arse (sorry if TMI), but at this point I decided to dose another ~2mg of Buprenorphine and see what happened. My pal told me 8mg would be PLENTY to start and may take 12-24 hours to start working 100%.
T+17:30 - Dosed 2mg more Buprenorphine, sublingually, as I was starting to get frustrated with the Buprenorphine, and almost felt like switching to Kratom, which worked in the past for small doses of hydrocodone, but not for anythuig as strong as oxymorphone.
T+ 19:00 - Holy crap...I THINK I feel something. Checked the mirror and my pupils were tiny again, YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
T+ 22:00 - Been keeping myself busy, cleaning and showering, you know, all the things you do not feel like doing during WD's, actually have a mild buzz and feel GREAT.
T+ 24:00 - This is when all hell broke loose, vomiting began, restlessness, general upset, cant sit still, cold and hot flashes ( I am Male

) which included sweating, heart palpitations, cannot honestly remember anything else. **NO** diarrhea though (weird eh?) and more general discomfort.
T+ 25:00 and until the end of night, I couldn't get rid my headache, front and back, side to side

. I sat on my couch while I ate 3mg alprazolam, 1 mg Clonazepam and 30mg Flurazepam (hypnotic benzo for sleep), all while holding down the meds so I could sleep for another 12 hour shift that was creeping up on me.
I dared not take anymore Buprenorphine, as if that was the cause of this mess, I did not want to get worse off...
Regardless of that train wreck of an experience, was caused by the Bupe (I think), I did NOT want to experience that again.
So, experts out there, the Final Jeopady Question if the morning/evening, MORE Buprenorphine in the future, less, or is that stuff just not made for me? ANY responses or insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You in Advance,
c0rrupT