NeuroPsyence
Bluelighter
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- Apr 30, 2011
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I'm going to recount all of the relevant information leading up to the experience, then provide details about the experience from the four people who tried it. I think it is relevant to note that I have tried the following high-potency psychedelics: LSD, AL-LAD, 25I, 25B, 25C, 25N, 25G, DOC, DOI, 2C-TFM -- and this experience was nothing like any of those drugs.
1) Friend A, an inexperienced tripper, tries an allegedly 100ug free sample (in liquid solution) of "the best acid you'll ever try" from a man in his 40's or 50's at a music festival. The experience is so good that he purchases 5mg of the solid product, sold as crystal LSD, for a price equivalent to over $50,000 a gram.
2) After hearing how positive his experience was, I purchase 1.1mg of the product from my friend, weighed out with a submiligram lab scale. It is a single, tiny, opaque crystal. I crush it into a fine powder and dissolve it in 5mg of distilled water in a dropper. It takes a considerable amount of shaking, but the powder completely dissolves.
3) 1mg (~200ug) each is placed on three thin slivers of a bagel. Myself, Friend B1, and Friend B2, all of whom are very, VERY experienced with psychedelics hold the bagel slivers under our tongues for ~15 minutes. 0.5mg (~100ug) is placed on a fourth sliver of bagel and given to Friend GF (who is not as experienced with psychedelics), who does the same.
Because of the low dosages, we all originally planned to take other psychedelics in addition to the alleged LSD. However, only I ended up taking another psychedelic before the peak effects of the trip set in (because the duration of the psychedelic I planned to combine is so long). Friends B1 and B2 decide not to combine anything after it becomes clear that the effects of the original drug are very different from, and much stronger than what is expected.
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My experience:
The come-up is very fast. Significant effects are felt within 30 minutes, but not the strange body energy or giggliness that are often characteristic of a LSD comeup. Rather, the come-up is characterized by rapidly-increasing euphoria from the beginning, and perhaps a slight shortness of breath. The initial visual effects are curious-- with some characteristics reminiscent of AL-LAD; other aspects oddly enough remind me of AMT visuals. Despite the unusual come-up, I continue to assume that what I had taken was ~200ug of LSD, or perhaps AL-LAD, and in accordance with my original plan for the day, I take a 90mg capsule of Escaline at about the 45 minute mark. Unfortunately, this invalidates the rest of my experience for the purposes of this report, so I will move on the the reports from my friends. I will note that all of our experiences lasted 8-12 hours.
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Friend B1 and Friend B2:
Around the 45 minute mark, Friend B1 notes that "this doesn't feel like any Acid I have tried before". Friend B2 comments that he is starting to feel as though he is rolling in addition to tripping. They both note that the framerate of their vision appears to be slowing down. At the 1hr mark, my girlfriend (Friend GF) and I separate from the rest of the group. The following are paraphrased quotations from Friends B1 and B2 told to me following the experience.
"I thought I had experienced ego-death on high-dose LSD and high-dose 4-AcO-DMT before, but my experience on this drug-- whatever it is-- was something else entirely. This was easily the most profoundly psychedelic compound I have ever tried that still allowed me to remain functional. To make things even stranger, I would say that it was also the most empathogenic compound I have ever tried. The only other experience I have had that was similarly empathogenic was a combination of AMT and MDA."
"Right before the peak of the trip, we both experienced a drop in visual framerate that was so significant that it made it difficult to walk around." [Note: I did not personally experience this apparent framerate drop with the combination of the Escaline. Friend GF experienced this effect to a lesser extent than Friends B1 and B2]
"During the peak of the trip, we felt as though we had become purely animalistic. Complex thoughts were difficult to process. The notion that there could be any point in time other than the present ceased to exist. Despite, or perhaps to some extent because of this, I felt closer to Friend B2 than I have ever felt to another person in my life."
"After the peak, I felt reborn in a way that surpassed any other psychedelic experience, with the possible exception of a break-through dose of DMT"
"Body effects reminiscent of, but stronger than AMT persisted for at least 8 hours"
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Friend GF:
At about the 90 minute mark, Friend GF (my girlfriend) comments that this drug is the most pleasant thing she has ever experienced. More pleasant than MDMA (her previous favorite drug) by a margin that she said she would not have thought possible. She can not stop talking about how therapeutic the drug seems as well. She has struggled with anxiety and depression issues for her entire life, but says that she does not think that either of these will ever be significant problems for her again. She says she feels more at peace with herself and her life than she ever has before. She notes that she feels no desire to do drugs solely for the purpose of "getting high" any more. She considers this to be a landmark turning-point in her life.
At about the 4 hour mark, she says feels like the most profound effects of the drug have ceased, although she still feels incredible. She takes 20mg of 4-AcO-DMT at this point. Once the effects of the 4-AcO come on, she comments that the euphoria of the experience has significantly lessened (but is still pleasant), but that she has been thrust right back into the unprecedentedly therapeutic mental state experienced earlier in the trip. We have deep, very productive conversations for the remainder of the duration of the experience.
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We have been trying to figure out what this drug could possibly have been, but nothing seems to fit the profile. Any input on the matter, even pure speculation, would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for the responses.
1) Friend A, an inexperienced tripper, tries an allegedly 100ug free sample (in liquid solution) of "the best acid you'll ever try" from a man in his 40's or 50's at a music festival. The experience is so good that he purchases 5mg of the solid product, sold as crystal LSD, for a price equivalent to over $50,000 a gram.
2) After hearing how positive his experience was, I purchase 1.1mg of the product from my friend, weighed out with a submiligram lab scale. It is a single, tiny, opaque crystal. I crush it into a fine powder and dissolve it in 5mg of distilled water in a dropper. It takes a considerable amount of shaking, but the powder completely dissolves.
3) 1mg (~200ug) each is placed on three thin slivers of a bagel. Myself, Friend B1, and Friend B2, all of whom are very, VERY experienced with psychedelics hold the bagel slivers under our tongues for ~15 minutes. 0.5mg (~100ug) is placed on a fourth sliver of bagel and given to Friend GF (who is not as experienced with psychedelics), who does the same.
Because of the low dosages, we all originally planned to take other psychedelics in addition to the alleged LSD. However, only I ended up taking another psychedelic before the peak effects of the trip set in (because the duration of the psychedelic I planned to combine is so long). Friends B1 and B2 decide not to combine anything after it becomes clear that the effects of the original drug are very different from, and much stronger than what is expected.
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My experience:
The come-up is very fast. Significant effects are felt within 30 minutes, but not the strange body energy or giggliness that are often characteristic of a LSD comeup. Rather, the come-up is characterized by rapidly-increasing euphoria from the beginning, and perhaps a slight shortness of breath. The initial visual effects are curious-- with some characteristics reminiscent of AL-LAD; other aspects oddly enough remind me of AMT visuals. Despite the unusual come-up, I continue to assume that what I had taken was ~200ug of LSD, or perhaps AL-LAD, and in accordance with my original plan for the day, I take a 90mg capsule of Escaline at about the 45 minute mark. Unfortunately, this invalidates the rest of my experience for the purposes of this report, so I will move on the the reports from my friends. I will note that all of our experiences lasted 8-12 hours.
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Friend B1 and Friend B2:
Around the 45 minute mark, Friend B1 notes that "this doesn't feel like any Acid I have tried before". Friend B2 comments that he is starting to feel as though he is rolling in addition to tripping. They both note that the framerate of their vision appears to be slowing down. At the 1hr mark, my girlfriend (Friend GF) and I separate from the rest of the group. The following are paraphrased quotations from Friends B1 and B2 told to me following the experience.
"I thought I had experienced ego-death on high-dose LSD and high-dose 4-AcO-DMT before, but my experience on this drug-- whatever it is-- was something else entirely. This was easily the most profoundly psychedelic compound I have ever tried that still allowed me to remain functional. To make things even stranger, I would say that it was also the most empathogenic compound I have ever tried. The only other experience I have had that was similarly empathogenic was a combination of AMT and MDA."
"Right before the peak of the trip, we both experienced a drop in visual framerate that was so significant that it made it difficult to walk around." [Note: I did not personally experience this apparent framerate drop with the combination of the Escaline. Friend GF experienced this effect to a lesser extent than Friends B1 and B2]
"During the peak of the trip, we felt as though we had become purely animalistic. Complex thoughts were difficult to process. The notion that there could be any point in time other than the present ceased to exist. Despite, or perhaps to some extent because of this, I felt closer to Friend B2 than I have ever felt to another person in my life."
"After the peak, I felt reborn in a way that surpassed any other psychedelic experience, with the possible exception of a break-through dose of DMT"
"Body effects reminiscent of, but stronger than AMT persisted for at least 8 hours"
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Friend GF:
At about the 90 minute mark, Friend GF (my girlfriend) comments that this drug is the most pleasant thing she has ever experienced. More pleasant than MDMA (her previous favorite drug) by a margin that she said she would not have thought possible. She can not stop talking about how therapeutic the drug seems as well. She has struggled with anxiety and depression issues for her entire life, but says that she does not think that either of these will ever be significant problems for her again. She says she feels more at peace with herself and her life than she ever has before. She notes that she feels no desire to do drugs solely for the purpose of "getting high" any more. She considers this to be a landmark turning-point in her life.
At about the 4 hour mark, she says feels like the most profound effects of the drug have ceased, although she still feels incredible. She takes 20mg of 4-AcO-DMT at this point. Once the effects of the 4-AcO come on, she comments that the euphoria of the experience has significantly lessened (but is still pleasant), but that she has been thrust right back into the unprecedentedly therapeutic mental state experienced earlier in the trip. We have deep, very productive conversations for the remainder of the duration of the experience.
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We have been trying to figure out what this drug could possibly have been, but nothing seems to fit the profile. Any input on the matter, even pure speculation, would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for the responses.
