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New RCs in the UK : Version 2 any vendor talk and this is getting closed

I started on mandy at the right time, 70p-£2 for a high dose mdma pill, so have no notion of what you speak of =D
 
6-APB should be the drug that defines the 2010 decade, just like how mdma defined 1990's

lets just hope it isnt tainted by the sun and destroyed before it even began lol
 
Skyline_GTR said:
Honestly people are too young or they forget and have got used to ever cheaper "pills" in the last ten years, but back in the mid-late nineties pills were £5-£10, contained on average probably 100mg MDMA and you'd still do one every 2 hours during a session and often more. I'd easily do £30 in a night back then.

Most pills these days are far lower standard, often without any mdma so a tenner for 100mg 6-APB (at least for me, with for me at my current tolerance) gives great effects, similar to mdma with mild visuals, lasts all night and I never felt like taking more - it's simply not terribad value imo. And no need to worry about a caution/record for posession if nicked.

I think the issue is that people had a figure of a per gram rate that they would be able to buy 6-APB powder at and are now pissed off that that isnt initially achievable and that vendors make more margin with pellets, but i'm also told that once the pellet decision was made, the lab massively increased the price of the powder kg to the official importers.

End of the day people can spend 30-40/g mdma crystals (if they can source) that might last 1 or 2 sessions so its not bad given availabilty of 6-APB should be universal.

Summer of love :) =D until the Sun and gov learns of it.
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iv grown up with stories from my uncle aunty and mum all sating pills they got in 1986-1989 being £30-20 quid

but when i started just like link s, it was like 2 quid a pop, 3 quid haha.
 
Link_S said:
~40mg snorted, no decent effects, then 90mg oral, good effects, then 30mg redose, fuck all. Doses were eyeballed :|
Nah didnt drink much at all maybe a pint over 2 hours & a bit to neck the redose in
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It certainly seems from this and a couple of other reports that

a) you're best to take your optimum dose in one go orally for max effects (its more than the sum of its parts, so to speak). EG. 20mg + 80mg oral with 30mins between seemed noticably less strong than 90mg at once to me, from my two experiences.

b) forget snorting it!
 
Aye definately, snorting just made me feel slightly ill, and a mate much moreso. Definitely going to try oral straight off when i get it again, just cant justify paying more for this than for a 2cx
 
don't like the way this thread is going at all, please stick to discussion of the effects of these drugs, if it keeps on going into vendor talk (i am now including talk about pricing or anything to do with marketing etc) it is going to be closed for good.
 
Although i havent tried it 100mg sample isnt very much in all honesty. No offence skyline but im used to caining 250-300mg bombs of crystal MDMA. I think 200mg sample per person and we'd know the full damage. Id do an allergy tester then 150mg bomb with 50mg booster.

Even with 2-CB id happily neck 40mg at once of pure powder. I cant see 100mg of 6-APB ripping me a new one tbh.

Want to hear of a report of someone being properly wiped out by it!!
 
fastandbulbous said:
No. The ester/ether thing is what makes 5-MeODMT illegal. That bit above only covers N,N-dialkyltryptamines and hydroxy-N,N-dialkyltryptamines (like psilocin, iprocin etc)

I'm overheating & too lazy to find it myself at the moment, but if someone else posts it I'll happily concour
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http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/law/countries/uk/uk_law_misuse_2001_1.shtml#sch2

Scroll up from where that link takes you 3 lines up where you'll find ...

3. Any ester or ether of a substance specified in paragraph 1 or 2.
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Ismene said:
But did anyone other than The Sun actually call mephedrone "Meow meow"? Most of the places I saw it advertised at sold it as "mephedrone".
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I am led to believe that the term "meow meow" actually originated from a thread on the champ legals forum. Someone had edited the Wikipedia article to list meow meow as one of the "Also known as" names, and it just so happened on that day the Mail or Sun or Mirror journalist happened to wiki mephedrone, and found meow meow.

Of course the irony is, 2 days later wikipedia was no longer listing it as meow meow.

Ah hang on ... just found it ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone#cite_note-Eye-6

Way back in January 2009, not long after mephedrone first began to be sold online, members of the web forum attached to the now-defunct "headshop" Champagne Legals discussed what brand name they might attach to the new product, which has the chemical identity dimethylmethcathinone or MM-Cat.
"What shall we call this drug? It's called MM-CAT, so why not Miaow?" suggested one. The name did not catch on ... But on 1 November 2009, someone did add the name "Meow" to the Wikipedia entry for Mephedrone at the head of a list of "street names."
Three weeks later ... the Sun declared the arrival of a "new party favourite called 'meow meow'" and the world went cat-call crazy.
Among a host of recent headlines the Sunday Times has reported on "the rise of Meow", the Times has heralded "Meow Meow arrests", the Sun shrieked about a "Harman snub for Meow Meow Ban" and the Daily Telegraph took a long hard look at the "Meow Meow Menace in Europe."
"No one ever called it Meow seriously till the papers picked up on the Wikipedia entry," one drugs expert tells the Eye.
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captain codshit said:
Although i havent tried it 100mg sample isnt very much in all honesty. No offence skyline but im used to caining 250-300mg bombs of crystal MDMA. I think 200mg sample per person and we'd know the full damage. Id do an allergy tester then 150mg bomb with 50mg booster.

Even with 2-CB id happily neck 40mg at once of pure powder. I cant see 100mg of 6-APB ripping me a new one tbh.

Want to hear of a report of someone being properly wiped out by it!!
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Yeah point taken, 150mg MDMA would be a pretty strong bomb for me, everyones tolerance is diff, just bear in mind that its prob wise to build up from 100mg in steps rather than 200mg at once, we dont know if the dose response curve follows mdma.
 
I don't think you should jump in and do massive bombs of untested chems just because you're massive and hard and do big bombs of MDMA

we dont know if the dose response curve follows mdma.
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exactly, people's attitudes are rotten in regards to research chemicals
 
Totally agree with the above. Skyline's MDMA tolerance may not be sky high (see what I did there? =D) but mine is easily on a par with Codshit's and 100mg of 6-APB was a strong dose. I felt I could've gone higher without major problems but there's no way I'd jump from 100mg up to 200mg. Will be sticking to one 100mg "pellet" for my first trial with it in that form and probably no more than 125mg for my second. 150mg absolute max. I would advise others do similar - we have no idea whatsoever what the dose/response curve is yet. Doubling the highest known dose ever taken safely by anybody anywhere in the world for your first time would be just plain moronic, to be honest :\
 
For all we know, this drug could share a lot of properties with MDA, which seems fairly likely considering its effects, in which case we'd have to assume there was little or no cross tolerance with MDMA
 
And that high doses could potentially be fatal - 450mg of MDA (admittedly dosed IV) killed the subject when the CIA were still fond of dosing people without their permission or knowledge. Already been one report of somebody hospitalised after snorting 150mg straight off. Although it would appear he didn't actually get legit 6-APB and was more a victim of whatever crap he was sent by scammers :\
 
Idiots should learn from the meph experience. It's a fucking research chem, with fuck all research done, so talk of boshing ridiculous amounts pisses me off.
 
Nice - enjoy, Andy :)

Be great if you could give a bit of a rundown of dose used and a brief description of effects, aftereffects, etc over in the PD thread if you get the chance, Andy. With such a new drug every single experience report really helps us to get an idea of the dose/response curve, the effects, safety profile and so on. Gwan - do your lil bit for the greater good of mankind as well as having a damn good night =D

PS: I agree with Kiddo wholeheartedly. This one is a complete unknown so forget about meph and show it a bit of respect kiddies cos you'll come a cropper and also get it banned in a heartbeat otherwise and that would be shit for all concerned.
 
shambles i was planning on doing a full trip report like cartoonphysics. ive already put it into 2 gel caps ready im going to do 1 then the other when i come up
 
That honestly sounds to be a bit ambitious, Andy. 100mg truly is a pretty hefty dose for almost all who have yet sampled it, it lasts all night (24 hours baseline to baseline) at that level already, and redosing has been shit and added nothing for those who have tried it so far. If it were me, I'd probably go for a 50-75mg dose to get an idea of the effects and save the rest for a thumping dose on another occasion... that's just me though but I would urge you to consider and review the existing reports before going in so high.

A TR of some description would be excellent whatever dose(s) you decide to go for :)
 
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