New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

[rockstar 69]

Any MMC would be just as illegal as meph here would it not? Cathinone ban etc?

I presume not all Cathinones are banned in China and it's them trying to get around the ban on mephedrone/4-MMC.

 

[VAC]

Yeh from what I've gathered 'R-MMC' is an attention grabbing 'name/branded' and it reflects nothing on the actual molecular structure.

 

[oSpherical]

Camfetamine is readily available now but I'm yet to see any info about it. Have people forgotten about this chemical or is there simply no interest in it?
I've got 500mg, but I'm worried about being one of the earliest testers of the stuff, especially when there's no guidelines for dosing.

Also, Etizolam can be great. £3ish for a blister pack of 10, Intas generic. Unfortunately the quality from my chinese source seems to vary. I could swear that some of the pills are inactive. I once took 10 pills from the same blister pack (spread out over 3 or so hours because I was getting frustrated from no effects), and felt nothing, with no tolerance to it. The next day I tried it again and popped a pill from another blister pack, which I felt quite strongly within an hour, I took another and ended up crawling into bed and falling asleep within an instant.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Camfetamine is readily available now but I'm yet to see any info about it. Have people forgotten about this chemical or is there simply no interest in it?
I've got 500mg, but I'm worried about being one of the earliest testers of the stuff, especially when there's no guidelines for dosing.

Also, Etizolam can be great. £3ish for a blister pack of 10, Intas generic. Unfortunately the quality from my chinese source seems to vary. I could swear that some of the pills are inactive. I once took 10 pills from the same blister pack (spread out over 3 or so hours because I was getting frustrated from no effects), and felt nothing, with no tolerance to it. The next day I tried it again and popped a pill from another blister pack, which I felt quite strongly within an hour, I took another and ended up crawling into bed and falling asleep within an instant.

Just seperate it down into 30-50mg piles and keep doing one every hour or so until you're happy. Obviously do an allergy test. It is quite a weak chemical, pleasant but weak.

 

[oSpherical]

Just seperate it down into 30-50mg piles and keep doing one every hour or so until you're happy. Obviously do an allergy test. It is quite a weak chemical, pleasant but weak.

It sounds like this could potentially make camfetamine more expensive than 6/5-apb... I assume the best way to dose is to crush the stuff and snort it, but my allergy test which was just a few specks left my nose burning for awhile. I'm kind of regretting not just sticking with MPA. But I can't judge yet...

Edit: 30mg snorted, burn isn't as bad as I anticipated. No effects as of yet (5 minutes). Will give it another 30 minutes and I'll take another 30mg. This is the first time I've truly felt like a guinea pig with RCs/

Edit 2: Tingles and a tight feeling in my front teeth, stimulation evident.

 

[jancrow]

but is it any good?

 

[euphoricc]

hey is phenezepamin the usa yet jus asking cause im a benzo madman as i pop 2 bars ........................like mdpv in bath salts where the benzo one?

 

[rockstar 69]

Even if Camfetamine is better than MPA that wouldn't say much for it. And by the initial sound of things it isn't better at all.

Are they selling this ODT yet? Would be intrested in giving that a pop heard positive reports from the few that have tried it on here.

 

[Acidtek]

^ Yeah that does sound like an interesting chemical

 

[oSpherical]

My verdict from 30mg, which could be a small dose or a large one...nobody seems to know.

It's nice, got nice, smooth stimulation, it can make you talkative and it makes activities more fun.
It's got a property that other stims lack though, it makes my body feel quite comfortable - relaxed. If I were on MPA or MDPV my muscles would be tense. They feel quite relaxed on camfetamine.

However, at £35/g, compared to MPA which these days can be gotten for under £15/g. It's extortionist. 30mg of MPA is far stronger than 30mg of camfetamine, from what I can tell.

MPA and Camfetamine don't actually feel that different, to be honest... but I've only been on 30mg for about an hour now. My opinion may change.

Luckily I've got a massive supply of etizolam if the stimulation lasts too long. I'm unused to having benzos around. In my days of MDPV abuse etizolams would have been an absolute miracle. Instead I always had to just put up with all the paranoia and lack of sleep.

I fully expect the price to come down.

hey is phenezepamin the usa yet jus asking cause im a benzo madman as i pop 2 bars ........................like mdpv in bath salts where the benzo one?

This probably isn't the best place to ask since very few UK members would be aware of American legislation.
phenazepam was wonderful from what I experienced from it however. Shame that it has been banned. I bought it in a 20mg/ml solution which made dosing easier, and found that it was good only for sleep. Best sleeping chemical I've ever used, not as pleasant as ambien/zolpidem, but much faster. 3mg and you wake up barely remembering walking to your bed.

If they start selling pure powder in the USA though, I'd imagine a string of deaths far worse than MDPV and "bath salts" have caused in the US. Phenazepam powder is so cheap that you could buy a years supply for barely anything. Some idiot is always going to stick his finger into the stash and snort it, which wouldn't be advisable with phenazepam

 

[Acidtek]

^ I've tried MPA a couple of times and I quite enjoyed it, very interested in this camfetamine though! Do think you could keep us updated on how your 'research' goes? Cheers mate, have a good time!

Oh yeah I forgot to ask have you tried mdai? What did you think

 

[oSpherical]

^ I've tried MPA a couple of times and I quite enjoyed it, very interested in this camfetamine though! Do think you could keep us updated on how your 'research' goes? Cheers mate, have a good time!

Oh yeah I forgot to ask have you tried mdai? What did you think

Do you mean mixing MDAI and MPA? I've done it a few times. MDAI alone made me feel uncomfortable due to only effecting seratonin, it reminded me of being on SSRIs, but adding MPA to the mix, in my opinion, puts it on par with 6-apb if you get the ratios correct. It's very easy to get carried away and continue dosing the MPA and occasionally downing more MDAI though.

MPA is a fine chemical, but it can really bring out anxiety in me, which is why I haven't used it much. It's also an extremely cheap stimulant.

I have no idea how camfetamine would react with MDAI. I'd imagine the same as MPA, unless camfetamine has some hidden effects on seratonin receptors.

 

[Acidtek]

Yeah I meant mixing the the two, sorry didn't make it clear! I love doing the two together, feels really nice and happy feeling.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

My verdict from 30mg, which could be a small dose or a large one...nobody seems to know.

It's nice, got nice, smooth stimulation, it can make you talkative and it makes activities more fun.
It's got a property that other stims lack though, it makes my body feel quite comfortable - relaxed. If I were on MPA or MDPV my muscles would be tense. They feel quite relaxed on camfetamine.

However, at £35/g, compared to MPA which these days can be gotten for under £15/g. It's extortionist. 30mg of MPA is far stronger than 30mg of camfetamine, from what I can tell.

MPA and Camfetamine don't actually feel that different, to be honest... but I've only been on 30mg for about an hour now. My opinion may change.

Luckily I've got a massive supply of etizolam if the stimulation lasts too long. I'm unused to having benzos around. In my days of MDPV abuse etizolams would have been an absolute miracle. Instead I always had to just put up with all the paranoia and lack of sleep.

I fully expect the price to come down.


This probably isn't the best place to ask since very few UK members would be aware of American legislation.
phenazepam was wonderful from what I experienced from it however. Shame that it has been banned. I bought it in a 20mg/ml solution which made dosing easier, and found that it was good only for sleep. Best sleeping chemical I've ever used, not as pleasant as ambien/zolpidem, but much faster. 3mg and you wake up barely remembering walking to your bed.

The full proper nasal dose is around 50-60mg. I've done 50mg-50mg-30mg. My first experiment was just 30mg and it was ok. Going higher boosts the initial stimulation and the chilledness seems to develop and strengthen with each dose. I'd say if you do 200mg in an evening and that costs £7 it is priced around the same mark as 5/6-apb, and it has taken a while for the 5/6-apb to drop down to those prices. It definitely isn't a club drug though is it?

I found the burn pretty insane when I did 50mg, but by the last 30mg i'd lost a lot of feeling in my nose. It kind of leaves a weird smell in your nose as well.

 

[oSpherical]

The full proper nasal dose is around 50-60mg. I've done 50mg-50mg-30mg. My first experiment was just 30mg and it was ok. Going higher boosts the initial stimulation and the chilledness seems to develop and strengthen with each dose. I'd say if you do 200mg in an evening and that costs £7 it is priced around the same mark as 5/6-apb, and it has taken a while for the 5/6-apb to drop down to those prices. It definitely isn't a club drug though is it?

I found the burn pretty insane when I did 50mg, but by the last 30mg i'd lost a lot of feeling in my nose. It kind of leaves a weird smell in your nose as well.

The problem is, 6-apb is a club drug, so £10 may seem worth it if you go out and have a great time. It also gives intense euphoria and is very active. It's a one hit sort of thing... (MPA + MDAI is much better for the frugal man, however)
Camfetamine is a mild stimulant, the sort people want to have around for studying or doing tasks. The sort where they want a large supply and to be able to keep redosing. £7 for an evening of being mildly stimulated isn't worth it.

I'll take 50mg later tonight. I'll report back.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

The problem is, 6-apb is a club drug, so £10 may seem worth it if you go out and have a great time. It also gives intense euphoria and is very active. It's a one hit sort of thing...
Camfetamine is a mild stimulant, the sort people want to have around for studying or doing tasks. The sort where they want a large supply and to be able to keep redosing. £7 for an evening of being mildly stimulated isn't worth it.

I'll take 50mg later tonight. I'll report back.

Nah I know, I haven't bought any more of it. I don't think the vendors will ever shift enough of it to afford to buy it in larger quantities which will drop the price down...

 

[oSpherical]

2x50mg camfetamine doses tonight, and disappointingly it's practically identical to MPA

 

[Allein]

^^^

Surely not one straight up amp based stim is almost exactly the same as another ...it will be all over the papers tomorrow

 

[oSpherical]

I'm not sure if I overdid it by taking 100mg tonight... camfetamine at this dose is just extremely boring, I can't find enjoyment in any activity and I'm very sweaty...
On MPA I can start up a game and play it all night taking bumps every hour or so, having a great time. On Camfetamine I start up a game, lose interest in 2 minutes, try some music, find it annoying, etc. It has also left my body feeling tense and uncomfortable, with a few random cramps. I take back my comment about it making my body feel relaxed.

^^^

Surely not one straight up amp based stim is almost exactly the same as another ...it will be all over the papers tomorrow

Funny.

But I find straight up stimulants vary a lot, and camfetamine has been hyped for awhile. I was expecting something more akin to amphetamine.
I'm sure some people considering purchasing camfetamine or those who already have and need dosing guidelines have at least been helped slightly.

 

[jancrow]

I suppose a lot of people are searching for a kind of holy grail in RCs. Predictable drugs which won't get you in trouble. Doesn't seem to be the case, though, does it? I accept that wonderful things may yet be discovered but it seems as though the current chuck enough shit and some of it will stick approach by synthesists and vendors isn't really working for the end user.