New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

[knock]

knockando, thanks for that guideline of dose, I will probably go just under that the first time as my tollerence is not what it was when I was chaining the gear daily but I am used to opiates so will bare that in mind, thanks.

Even without tolerance 70mg isn't going to be a health concern of any kind! Worst you'll get is a bit of puking at about 80mg. But doses down at 35mg are worthwhile if you're not looking for sedation.

EDIT I'm talking about plugged/oral doses here, presumably chased and injected doses can be a bit lower.

 

[Albion]

don't bother plugging 3-MeO-PCP though, it works but you're better off sniffing it, maybe oral.

Plugging 3-MeO-PCP at higher doses gave me a lovely dopamine rush (like, 20-30mg). Sniffing it never had quite the same effect. I guess the old YMMV rule applies though.

 

[knock]

Plugging 3-MeO-PCP at higher doses gave me a lovely dopamine rush (like, 20-30mg). Sniffing it never had quite the same effect. I guess the old YMMV rule applies though.

I've never tried that high a dose plugged, only about 7mg. It seemed to do very little on it's own (although when I later took some MXE the synergy was extraordinary).

 

[rockstar 69]

MXE gets hole-like faster than 3-MeO-PCP. There is something slightly sinister about MXE (and to a lesser extent Ketamine) that is not present with 3-MeO-PCP. I don't know if that makes sense. At a certain point with MXE I can get a bit insecure and I feel like I'm fucking everything up (me, the universe), haven't got that with 3-MeO-PCP. I haven't taken 3-MeO-PCP doses far enough to get a hole-like experience, the mania gets to me first, and is more crazy than MXE mania.

I think 3-MeO-PCP is more euphoric and social than MXE, provided you keep to the right dose.

Opinions (personal experiences even) on b/a for o-dt vary quite a bit. Sniffing works but I don't find it at all efficient, others find it best. I find the drip unpleasantly sickly. Oral works just fine if you have an empty stomache. It's taken up to three hours to peak for me when I've eaten beforehand. Plugging always hits within a few minutes. plugging (don't bother plugging 3-MeO-PCP though, it works but you're better off sniffing it, maybe oral).

I kind of get what you mean with mxe being sinister at times. I've done too much mxe numerous times in the past and it's can really get in your head, it's more of a trip than ketamine for me and thus more unpredictable. Sometimes I've enjoyed doing a big dose of mxe (50mg+) and had an amazing afterglow and general positivity after. Other times it's just warped my head, made me think of all the bad things and made me feel low after. Now I tend to stick to 2-3 doses max and always 15-30mg or so. Find it more theraputic that way. Ketamine for me just doesn't have a sinister side mentally and is my drug of choice these days. What do you mean by the crazy mania is worse with 3-meo-pcp? I don't really get what you mean. mxe fries my head but only at high doses. To me it just sounds like 3-meo-pcp is theraputic, but it doesn't sound like there is much fun or dissociation?

As for the ODT, does sniffing come on quicker than oral? Waiting for 2-3 hours for something to hit is a long time. And I rarely ever have an empty stomach haha. Would sniffing it hit quicker I presume? Like with oxycodone where it hit's quicker sniffed but better b/a from oral dosing.

The taste aint too bad, its a weird kinda high though from smoking it, hard to explain. Runs well though. I found oral the best route out of all of em including IV, seemed more euphoric and lasted a nice long time. If you've got some promethazine combine it to remove sickness ya might get and have a better nod

To be honest my days of chasing mdpv have put me off chasing. I also think it could increase any seizure risk with this one. How long did sniffing take to hit you, your bound to have tried it? It's not spewy like DHC at all is it? I love high dosing of oxy but with dhc there's only so much I can do without feeling sick.

Lol, yeh I was speaking to Evad when he was chasing the stuff I think and he hated the taste, that was the only information I ever got off of him about it though, the bad taste, I don't know if he felt anything from it or wether he gave up due to the taste! He told me is was a good opiate though and out I would like it.

As I have said I haven't tried it yet but if it is really that good I am surprised that more h addicts haven't jumped on the bandwagon and gone for some of is stuff. I mean it's legal and during the droit probably a lot better than a lot of the gear going around. This is something that has baffled me for some time now!

He definately rated it highly and had done some pretty high doses. Did say to me at one point it was better than alot of the gear that was around. I'm not surprised that they haven't jumped on the bandwagon yet though. It's not that easy to get for most people, either invite only UK vendors or it involves waiting a couple of days from Europe. It's certainly not a well known legal high at this stage, probably for the best aswell ha.

 

[knock]

What do you mean by the crazy mania is worse with 3-meo-pcp? I don't really get what you mean.

What I mean is this sort of thing, which is under control, I've managed to avoid losing the plot, but I can see how it could get out of control:

Took 30mg tonight. Definitely made me manic. Started off trying to perform a marxist analysis of Christmas which didn't go too well. I blamed my failure on my posture at my computer and analysing my swivel chair, I spent about an hour trying to get the various settings right, it's an IKEA Markus chair and it's got a big knob at the front which can be twisted between two extremes with a fair amount of effort, neither of which extreme seems to have any effect on the topology of the chair.

I set out to take a video recording of the chair while I manipulated the knob, so I could see the effect it had on the chair. I was trying to position my phone to take the video recording and decided the best option would be to use blue-tack to stick the phone to the wall. Certain that I had blue-tack in the house I hunted high and low for the stuff, emptying a large cupboard and actually binning half the contents to no avail, no blue tack in sight! I eventually gave up and managed to mount the phone on another chair and took the recording. Well I still have no fucking clue what this knob does...

I phoned my brother to discuss arrangements for Christmas and he told me his plans but they didn't seem simple at all and I interrogated him for some ten minutes (in retrospect he arrives on one day and leaves on another), I started out building a website where family members could define plans for travel, who is cooking, who is sleeping where etc. Befuddlement meant this led nowhere so I eventually gave up and spent another hour revising my BL avatar, as a response to Arnold's. Realising I was engaged in self-defeating behaviour I sniffed 3mg Etizolam and drank half a bottle of wine which has still to have a noticeable effect on my mood. Great fun, I must say, and I cleared out the cupboard!

As for the ODT, does sniffing come on quicker than oral? Waiting for 2-3 hours for something to hit is a long time. And I rarely ever have an empty stomach haha. Would sniffing it hit quicker I presume? Like with oxycodone where it hit's quicker sniffed but better b/a from oral dosing.

Don't ask me about sniffing I personally think it's a waste of time with o-dt, others disagree. Get to know your friendly rectum!

 

[rockstar 69]

Haha now I get you. That is completely and utterly bonkers by the way

I just want to know if sniffing hits quickly. If not may aswell stick to oral dosing.

 

[Kronos]

Sniffing, the taste was nasty and it took more for the wanted effect i found. Yeah i just love smoking stuff haha, it runs for ages and its a bit harsh but not too bad and hit instantly, though i'd had some orally before the last time i tried smoking. I prefer it to the h around atm by a long way. Takes about 2 hours to come up fully on an empty stomach, and about the same when sniffed maybe a little bit shorter but with shitter effects

 

[rockstar 69]

Cheers mate looks like it will have to be oral dosing I guess.

 

[knock]

Cheers mate looks like it will have to be rectal dosing I guess.

Fixed

 

[rockstar 69]

You love it in a la anoos :D

 

[rockstar 69]

Well although still no MXE from a certain vendor, my ODT arrived off another one. Didn't smell bad so I sniffed a 10mg tester dose before sniffing another 30mgs. Gonna leave it now and see what the effects are, got 250mg to play with. Doesn't seem that bad on the nose at all but equally it's not hit me yet so will probably just dose 50mg oral later I guess. Will report back.

 

[wcote]

Sorry im very confused, I only go after simple drugs..... are you guys talking about an opiate RC?

You seem to be.

 

[rockstar 69]

Yes mate. O-desmethyltramadol it's called, or ODT. Nothing like tramadol though according to all reports. Quite a few people who love their gear like Evad, ColourfulKronos and a few others all seem to rate it highly as a decent opiate. Mugz seemed to love it aswell. At the moment you can only buy samples if it's from a UK vendor, unless you order from EU.

I can feel slight tingle already and pupils are constricted. Hope it's as good as the reports

 

[wcote]

Well I could see the way smack is at the moment, people who chip often could feel it for sure!

But im guessing it will be a different rush, etc.

Sounds interesting. Thanks,

 

[rockstar 69]

Well it's over an hour after I dosed now. Thought it wasn't working so sniffed another bit and the first dose started to kick in. Feels nice but not strong enough yet. Done 40mg so far but it's probably not kicked in yet tbh, just starting to a bit.

Gonna leave it a couple hours then bomb it, sounds like the best way.

 

[TekHazard]

legal rcs in uk which are good.

B2 when its real B2 aka long see though shards looks rocky. better than mephedrone

3-meo-pcp is a gooden for downers

6-APB is brilliant now the price is £15 for half a gram ~snip snippy snip~

 

[rockstar 69]

B2 sounds like absolute poison and is no way better than pre ban 4-MMC. Nobody even knows what the actual chemical is, although I suspect 4-Bromomethcathinone, so horribly toxic. There are already many horrible psychosis stories too. Sounds rank.

3-meo-pcp i may have to give a bash soon. it's not a downer though it is a dissociative.

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

MXE gets hole-like faster than 3-MeO-PCP. There is something slightly sinister about MXE (and to a lesser extent Ketamine) that is not present with 3-MeO-PCP. I don't know if that makes sense. At a certain point with MXE I can get a bit insecure and I feel like I'm fucking everything up (me, the universe), haven't got that with 3-MeO-PCP. I haven't taken 3-MeO-PCP doses far enough to get a hole-like experience, the mania gets to me first, and is more crazy than MXE mania.

I think 3-MeO-PCP is more euphoric and social than MXE, provided you keep to the right dose.

Opinions (personal experiences even) on b/a for o-dt vary quite a bit. Sniffing works but I don't find it at all efficient, others find it best. I find the drip unpleasantly sickly. Oral works just fine if you have an empty stomach. It's taken up to three hours to peak for me when I've eaten beforehand. Plugging always hits within a few minutes. plugging (don't bother plugging 3-MeO-PCP though, it works but you're better off sniffing it, maybe oral).

Thats happened to me with MXE knock.. Ive had insightful trips that end with the world appearing souless and plastic..Everything and everyone appears as just matter with no life.. ( know what I mean ?lol ) Ive pondered the meaning of this and think I have an understanding of it but cant verbalise it right now.

 

[TekHazard]

B2 sounds like absolute poison and is no way better than pre ban 4-MMC. Nobody even knows what the actual chemical is, although I suspect 4-Bromomethcathinone, so horribly toxic. There are already many horrible psychosis stories too. Sounds rank.

3-meo-pcp i may have to give a bash soon. it's not a downer though it is a dissociative.

B2 is not a cathinone alough some people have been selling cathinones as B2

 

[rockstar 69]

^ Where's your proof? They still wont release the name of what chemical it actually is. However some EU and Asian labs are now selling bulk 4-BMC...