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New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

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Just got access granted to the 'rare' chemicals, ie 3-meo-pce, 3-meo-pcp, 3-meo-pcpr, 3-meo-pcpy, o-desmethytramadol and etizolam powder. Been reading about the 3-meo-pcp, was fancying trying some after what one EADD'er was saying but after reading this http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...rience-A-Highly-Intriguing-Dissociative/page3 doesn't really sound recreational or much fun. £15 for 50mg seems pricey as fuck aswell.

Anyone tried any of these dissociatives?

ODT sounds pretty decent for chilling in the house will probably try that at some point. Legal scene seems lacking these days. If they ever get that N-ethylnorketamine synth'd I guess that might pick the scene up a bit.
 
rockstar 69 said:
Just got access granted to the 'rare' chemicals, ie 3-meo-pce, 3-meo-pcp, 3-meo-pcpr, 3-meo-pcpy, o-desmethytramadol and etizolam powder. Been reading about the 3-meo-pcp, was fancying trying some after what one EADD'er was saying but after reading this http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...rience-A-Highly-Intriguing-Dissociative/page3 doesn't really sound recreational or much fun. £15 for 50mg seems pricey as fuck aswell.

Anyone tried any of these dissociatives?

ODT sounds pretty decent for chilling in the house will probably try that at some point. Legal scene seems lacking these days. If they ever get that N-ethylnorketamine synth'd I guess that might pick the scene up a bit.
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I've tried all of them, o-dt has become a bit of a habit for me, it's very good for all kinds of things, a bit too good and a bit too easy to get into a routine as it leaves you totally functional, dare I say improved, but the risk of withdrawals/dependence is real. I don't find etizolam recreational but it's useful for getting to sleep and to calm pre-flight nerves (real flights, not tryptamine flights). But the etizolam powder is very tricky to handle if you don't have a quality scale or do liquid dosing, I've lost a day by accidentally taking too much and sleeping far too long. Of the 3-meo-pcx substances, I like them all, but 3-meo-pce is my favourite (it's the "lushest" of the lot) and 3-meo-pcp a close second, at the right dose it's a bit like a long-lasting non-fiendy chilled out cocaine with trippy undertones. But again these are fairly tricky to handle, it's easy to get "manic" with them by doing 10mg more than a non-manic dose.

Combos with these dissociatives are another story, if you hit it lucky you can end up feeling like you've just tripled the size of your brain... but exercise caution as in case you missed the reports on here these substances have led to people getting taken into the pscyh ward when they've overdone the combos.

The problem with the manic side is you think you're behaving quite reasonably but then look back and think "what the fuck have I just been doing?". I've managed so far to always keep enough insight into my state not to get out of hand, just a few phone calls, emails and texts that I wish I'd never done...
 
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Risk of OD with odt aswel, its one of the nicest opis i've tried
 
After reading up about 3-MeO-PCP it just doesn't sound great at all in terms of recreational use though. I can get a theraputic effect from low dose MXE or better still low dose K (where for art thou?), so can anyone explain why they like the 3-MeO-PCP/E? What makes it special and why is it worth the price, cos it does appear to be quite expensive at the moment.

Acid4Blood is the 3-MeO-PCPy vs r like the difference in ketamine isomers or what? Any insight man?

ODT from everyone I've spoke to sounds like a decent opiate, will definately get round to trying it soon. Evad used to really rate it as a nice strong opiate :)
 
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Hard to say if it's the light but it's usually a greener colour of green I'd say.
 
@ RS69

hugo24 describes it as divine psychosis and says And mixing with more than 1 other drug can yield EXTREMELY DISTURBING (nevertheless absolutely blissful) effects. Psood0nym says But I was very impressed, and thrilled to experience so many mental effects from a dissociative at such a low level of body dissociation. F'n'b says post orgasmic bliss.

And you conclude "doesn't sound great at all in terms of recreational use"! Ah well. True, it can be pricey.
 
Read further into the thread I linked. I read all that already, but I also read the rest. There is the usual novelty of a new drug type posts in the beginning. By page 3 it really doesn't sound great at all.

I've ordered 250mg of ODT so will be trying that soon. To me it still sounds like MXE is better than any of these.
 
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Read further into the thread I linked. I read all that already, but I also read the rest. There is the usual novelty of a new drug type posts in the beginning. By page 3 it really doesn't sound great at all.

I've ordered 250mg of ODT so will be trying that soon. To me it still sounds like MXE is better than any of these.
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ODT is a fine chemical indeed. You'll be pleasantly surprised. Be careful if you try mixing it with MXE. I'm not too sure whether it synergises with or downright potentiates opiates, but either way err on the side of caution because you'll nod very heavily indeed.
 
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Read further into the thread I linked. I read all that already, but I also read the rest. There is the usual novelty of a new drug type posts in the beginning. By page 3 it really doesn't sound great at all.
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What makes you think I haven't read the whole thread? My first quote comes from page 3 (or 5 if you're still browsing at 10 posts a page like it's 1995). Anyway I'm not trying to pressure you to take it so I'll shut up now!
 
As it goes on though you must surely see there is more said about it not really being recreational so much as theraputic? Ketamine or MXE can cover both of these angles, which is why i'm not convinced with these 3-MeO-PC compounds.
 
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Acid4Blood is the 3-MeO-PCPy vs r like the difference in ketamine isomers or what? Any insight man?
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Nope, not like racemic vs. s-isomer. Just slight variation in intensity of therapeutic effects/realisations/understanding.
Minimal body dissociation. Minimal ego. Head space= peaceful, serene, consise confident thoughts. Arylcyclohexylamines generally make me feel less selfish & cause me to adopt a more of a do-good attitude to help & care for other people.

They are expensive at the moment tho for sure. Batch of 3-MeO-PCP currently in synth is supposedly available this month. Should be a fair bit cheaper than current 50mg/100mg prices.
 
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As it goes on though you must surely see there is more said about it not really being recreational so much as theraputic? Ketamine or MXE can cover both of these angles, which is why i'm not convinced with these 3-MeO-PC compounds.
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No I don't agree. It's a small handful of people who have actually taken it that are discussing it in that thread, and they are discussing the various aspects. It's only natural that they'd move from the recreational on to the therapeutic as they worked through it's effects.


Anyway, for fuck sake, I've snorted it several times, it's recreational, first hand. For me it is as described in my post a few posts back, I think I described recreational effects ;)
 
I'm getting some of that ODT towards the end of this week so would be interested to read what people thing of it. What is a starting dose? Can it be smoked off of a foil like h can?

I've not tried any of those 4-meo-pc compounds either yet but saw a mate on 4-meo-pcp last week, spoke to him after and he enjoyed it, found it very recreational.
 
If you're used to opiates/opioids you might start off around 70-80mg. Never chased, only plugged, eaten and sniffed myself, prefer them in that order too. I haven't come across anyone describing a rush from it, even injecting, it's a gradual build, although a fairly quick one. (presumably that's what you'd be after chasing like H?)
 
I've not tried any of those 4-meo-pc compounds either yet but saw a mate on 4-meo-pcp last week, spoke to him after and he enjoyed it, found it very recreational.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but is 4-MeO-PCP not similar to 3-MeO-PCP only it requires 10x the dose? I remember f&b posting that the 3-MeO was smoother, in a similar way to how ketamine feels smoother than mxe. I was debating ordering the 4-MeO-PCP ages ago but was put off when I read about the batch with cyanide contamination. Knocknando how would you compare 3-MeO-PCP to mxe?

I remember Evad said he chased ODT but the taste was absolutely foul he said, can't remember what he said about the effects but I know he reverted back to oral dosing after. I presume the b/a is lower from sniffing than oral dosing? Ideally I preffer to sniff my drugs if there is any benefit like faster onset or more of a rush?

Sorry for all the questions but you seem to be a good person to ask ;)
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but is 4-MeO-PCP not similar to 3-MeO-PCP only it requires 10x the dose? I remember f&b posting that the 3-MeO was smoother, in a similar way to how ketamine feels smoother than mxe. I was debating ordering the 4-MeO-PCP ages ago but was put off when I read about the batch with cyanide contamination. Knocknando how would you compare 3-MeO-PCP to mxe?

I remember Evad said he chased ODT but the taste was absolutely foul he said, can't remember what he said about the effects but I know he reverted back to oral dosing after. I presume the b/a is lower from sniffing than oral dosing? Ideally I preffer to sniff my drugs if there is any benefit like faster onset or more of a rush?

Sorry for all the questions but you seem to be a good person to ask ;)
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MXE gets hole-like faster than 3-MeO-PCP. There is something slightly sinister about MXE (and to a lesser extent Ketamine) that is not present with 3-MeO-PCP. I don't know if that makes sense. At a certain point with MXE I can get a bit insecure and I feel like I'm fucking everything up (me, the universe), haven't got that with 3-MeO-PCP. I haven't taken 3-MeO-PCP doses far enough to get a hole-like experience, the mania gets to me first, and is more crazy than MXE mania.

I think 3-MeO-PCP is more euphoric and social than MXE, provided you keep to the right dose.

Opinions (personal experiences even) on b/a for o-dt vary quite a bit. Sniffing works but I don't find it at all efficient, others find it best. I find the drip unpleasantly sickly. Oral works just fine if you have an empty stomach. It's taken up to three hours to peak for me when I've eaten beforehand. Plugging always hits within a few minutes. <3 plugging <3 (don't bother plugging 3-MeO-PCP though, it works but you're better off sniffing it, maybe oral).
 
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The taste aint too bad, its a weird kinda high though from smoking it, hard to explain. Runs well though. I found oral the best route out of all of em including IV, seemed more euphoric and lasted a nice long time. If you've got some promethazine combine it to remove sickness ya might get and have a better nod
 
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If you're used to opiates/opioids you might start off around 70-80mg. Never chased, only plugged, eaten and sniffed myself, prefer them in that order too. I haven't come across anyone describing a rush from it, even injecting, it's a gradual build, although a fairly quick one. (presumably that's what you'd be after chasing like H?)
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Not really after anything by chasing, just wondering if it is possible to chase it, as in does it even work? If the answer is yes then the chances are that I will try snorting, chasing and oral methods and report back any findings if there are differences with the ROA.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but is 4-MeO-PCP not similar to 3-MeO-PCP only it requires 10x the dose? I remember f&b posting that the 3-MeO was smoother, in a similar way to how ketamine feels smoother than mxe. I was debating ordering the 4-MeO-PCP ages ago but was put off when I read about the batch with cyanide contamination. Knocknando how would you compare 3-MeO-PCP to mxe?

I remember Evad said he chased ODT but the taste was absolutely foul he said, can't remember what he said about the effects but I know he reverted back to oral dosing after. I presume the b/a is lower from sniffing than oral dosing? Ideally I preffer to sniff my drugs if there is any benefit like faster onset or more of a rush?

Sorry for all the questions but you seem to be a good person to ask ;)
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I really don't know about the 10x the dose, I got to my friends house and he'd already dosed so don't know how much he took really. I will ask him when I see him tomorrow. I too was put off trying it by that scare and would have recommended my friend away from it too had I have gotten there a few minutes earlier! As it stands he was fine and has some of the same batch that he took left so I know it's good, may see if I can get some off of him and have a play with it myself.

Lol, yeh I was speaking to Evad when he was chasing the stuff I think and he hated the taste, that was the only information I ever got off of him about it though, the bad taste, I don't know if he felt anything from it or wether he gave up due to the taste! He told me is was a good opiate though and thoughtI would like it.

As I have said I haven't tried it yet but if it is really that good I am surprised that more h addicts haven't jumped on the bandwagon and gone for some of is stuff. I mean it's legal and during the droit probably a lot better than a lot of the gear going around. This is something that has baffled me for some time now!

knockando, thanks for that guideline of dose, I will probably go just under that the first time as my tollerence is not what it was when I was chaining the gear daily but I am used to opiates so will bare that in mind, thanks. :)
 
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