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New RCs in the UK Ver. 4: Still disappointed?

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StoneHappyMonday said:
Well you've confused me. The guy hasn't mentioned a source or the desire to find a source in this post. How is it sourcing?

Flourish said:
I am getting one warning about not sourcing as i am new here

Well i could be mistaken.

My reasoning was thus; He discussed a source previously, was given a friendly warning for it, then in a latter post talks about a latter batch being more potent (and variences in batch strengths don't mean much unless you are still discussing the same source).

If this kind of 'source discussion' is ok then feel free to ignore me. In fact i could probably start adding similar comments on the variability of source strength myself if it was thought to be useful and allowed.

O yes, and welcome to EADD Flourish. We tend to get a bit paranoid about discussing certain topics (like sources) as this is a harm minimisation (and social) forum and we don't want to get shut down for people selling drugs. Please don't take my comments personally:)
 
Prices are allowed in EADD and nothing on this page would be considered unacceptable source discussion IMO.
 
No problem. I post at another forum and the rules are a tad different there, hence why I didn't think everything throughout.

If it helps, both batches came from the same source. There was about 6 weeks between the first and the second.
 
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First trial with camfetamine, and I have to add to the 'no great shakes' chorus. 100 mgs sublingual in two doses over two hours really hasn't done much by way of stimulation/study aid mental clarity: I'd say it's inferior to both MPA and Modafinil as a functional stimulant. There is a vague opiod-effect - possibly hitting me early because there's diphenhydramine in my system - but the psychological effect has been odd. There was a sense of mental clarity - but an inability to focus, not in a hectic too-speedy way, but in a depersonalised, bored and blank state of mind - I found myself speed-reading, but not taking much in.

It does seem that as with many RCs, YMMV - I actually quite like MPA as a work/study drug, while some Bluelighters prefer camfetamine. But it certainly doesn't agree with me: maybe it's a question of ROA or dosage: I'm addicted to benzos, but as Camfet is a dopaminergic, rather than GABAdrenergic stim, I wouldn't have expected the benzos in my system to have much effect on its action. They certainly don't with modafinil - maybe I've misunderstood the neurotransmitters involved in Camfet's action. But there's been no rush suggestive of adrenal boosting, also no obvious peripheral stimulation.

Frankly, I'll stick with Modafinil in the future - camfetamine seems to be a compound that sort of contradicts itself, at least in many users who've posted here and elsewhere. It's not an 'instant speedball', as the marketing hype had it: except maybe at the level of caffeine with codeine. Certainly, to me, not worth it for the price. Might be useful recreationally in combination with other chems, for those who take that kind of risk, but I only use chems, now, to help with work or hold off benzo withdrawal. Camfet doesn't feel dirty or meph-style toxic, but I doubt it's exactly good for you.

Last thing: it's actually, unlike any other stimulant I've used, made me hungry to the point of ordering a pizza. Maybe this is just a paradoxical reaction: I have been giving my neurotransmitters a pretty rough time for the past year or so, though until the past few months, not with stimulants. I may try a higher dose when I have a weekend free to risk a comedown, but I really doubt I'll be ordering it again. And yes, the source was tried and tested, so I'm as certain as one can be that I got the real thing.
 
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Shit mayne, I can't help but to be amused at this point. Maybe it's time I'll actually read the guidelines ;)
 
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Shit mayne, I can't help but to be amused at this point. Maybe it's time I'll actually read the guidelines ;)

You've pretty much learnt all the rules now; They basically start and finish at not giving away anything that helps people find vendors. Go over to drugs forum and start a thread saying I TOOK ECSTASY if you want to get bamboozled by rules :D.
 
Ok this is like T+ something

Feeling a little like I would do on a mda come up, warm and a bit sleepy.
Decided to vape another five mg. Foolish maybe ho hum.
Tried to bash one out, that didn't work,distracting almost.

When does it get fun?

Hmm thick mucous production atypical tryptamine response for me. But still no great shakes. Another five methinks.
 
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Well

I'm underwhelmed , maybe I need. To aim higher. A bit of mxe into mix might take this somewhere
 
Took another 130mg 5-apb today at about 6pm, and i've been a fucking mess all night. Really suprised how much it has different from last time I took it. My dopamine and serotonin reserves must be spent, it didn't make me feel good at all just absolutely mashed and shaky as fuck. Gonna take a couple of etizolams so hopefully I can get a decent sleep. Going to give my body a rest for a few weeks before I try again.
 
Disappointed

Weil I'm pretty disappointed the mxe didnt add anything , so a 1mg xanax was taken , a hour passed then took 1mg etizolam was taken and sleep ensued.

Either didnt vape very well or didn't vape enough next time 35mg plugged me thinks.

Can you plug freebase Amt?
 
Neutralise it with acid first. You probably can plug freebase but I imagine it would be unpleasant.
 
Weil I'm pretty disappointed the mxe didnt add anything , so a 1mg xanax was taken , a hour passed then took 1mg etizolam was taken and sleep ensued.

Either didnt vape very well or didn't vape enough next time 35mg plugged me thinks.

Can you plug freebase Amt?

Did you vape the MXE ?
 
Nah the mxe was under the tongue. It does seem this latest batch of mxe is shit in term of potancy, done some more today 50mg and all I got was sweaty and that's it, Fuckng so called professional vendors. I'm gettIng what's left analysed at my own cost so I can shove it back in his face,

Vendors should analise each new batch before offering it unto sale. Cowboys even the supposed best one.

And it's not tolerance , not done anything for 1 month and that was about 50mg and I was spangled.
 
^^^

Yeah don't sound good 23mgs had me a bit wonky 50 would have me well spagalated.

I tried vaping it, the beetle went purple, not really worth the bother though but intertaining non the less
 
if most people are saying "yeah man, it's proper wicked" then it might be worth a shot, if most are saying "nah man it's fucking shite" then it probably isn't. I have chosen not to buy camfetamine because I have ascertained that most people don't think it's very good- I don't need more information than that, I've done crappy stims before and can fill in the gaps myself. In this way, I have found all the "camfetamine is shit" posts to be helpful. Thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to have a whinge though, always appreciated ;).

Yeah and I'm terribly sorry for having a go at you, I was probably in an irritable mood. Still, I think that type of post is "shite", loads of people were saying MPA was "shite" or words to that effect when it first became available, now some of those same people have changed their minds, presumably having realised that it's effects are actually not just "shite" and indeed can be "quite good". It seems that people are looking for a replacement for some other drug (e.g. meph) and when they don't get the exact same effects the new drug is "shite". Well yes, it is shite if the other drug is the one you really want.

I'm sure there are many users on the board who respect your opinion, but then there will be many users who have no idea of your opinion, but they might see "Senior Moderator" and assume your opinion is to some extent predictive of their own. You might reasonably say it's their own fault for jumping to that conclusion, but it's surely better to try to keep the information available here as objective as we can. Some people are not too bright, or are too lazy or perhaps just lack the confidence to do thorough research, but that's all the more reason for trying to keep the quality of information high. A lot of people who read BL are not even registered users, they might not even know about BL but just come across posts via a google search. There is also the fact that differences in enjoyment of a drug are not simply about individual taste, but also individual biology, and there is no way readers can judge your biology and compare it to their own, no matter how many of your posts they have read.

As a Senior Mod do you not think you have a responsibility to maintain a relatively high standard of drug-related information in your posts? Or take pride in doing that? Perhaps you don't see that as your responsibility, maybe BL itself doesn't see that as your responsibility, but I think it should be, because those who have Senior Moderator under their name will tend to have their opinions held in higher regard than those without. I would think that it also carries the responsibility of a being a role model of sorts. Not that people will say "Vader is my role model" but more in the sense of contributing to the overall tone in a proportion greater than the number of your posts.

As for O-DT being weak, there are plenty of respected and opiate/opioid-experienced people who think otherwise. A lot of the discussion takes place over on Other Drugs, and many people in EADD don't venture outside EADD. I'd been posting here for months before I looked at the OD forum. I took 60mg O-DT tonight and I've been pleasantly struggling to keep my eyes open. It's weird because I've been using it fairly regularly for a couple of months now yet I don't seem to have developed any noticeable tolerance. I try not to use it every day, and I keep binging behaviour for weekends.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to have another whinge, I do enjoy it! ;)
 
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I'm sure there are many users on the board who respect your opinion, but then there will be many users who have no idea of your opinion, but they might see "Senior Moderator" and assume your opinion is to some extent predictive of their own. You might reasonably say it's their own fault for jumping to that conclusion, but it's surely better to try to keep the information available here as objective as we can.
You're right, of course, some people might assume that my opinion is somehow weightier than that of others because I'm a smod. It isn't, though. I could post a disclaimer at the end of every post, but that would be long, so I hope people have the common sense to see that my personal opinion is just that.
As a Senior Mod do you not think you have a responsibility to maintain a relatively high standard of drug-related information in your posts? Or take pride in doing that?
Yes, I am aware that I am held to a higher standard than bluelighters, and I do endeavour to ensure that I provide people with helpful information. However, it wouldn't be much fun for me if I had to be po-faced and earnest in every post. Sometimes I make off-the-cuff remarks or jokes or just chat breeze. Is that such a crime?
I would think that it also carries the responsibility of a being a role model of sorts. Not that people will say "Vader is my role model" but more in the sense of contributing to the overall tone in a proportion greater than the number of your posts.
So your point is that my posts should be exemplary and aspirational? I agree to a certain extent, but as I said before, I think that's an unfairly high bar. I'm a volunteer, and I work pretty hard, and I like to think I answer a lot of questions in a helpful way. Do I really have to make sure that every post I make is approaching perfection? Cut me some slack, basically.
As for O-DT being weak, there are plenty of respected and opiate/opioid-experienced people who think otherwise. A lot of the discussion takes place over on Other Drugs, and many people in EADD don't venture outside EADD. I'd been posting here for months before I looked at the OD forum. I took 60mg O-DT tonight and I've been pleasantly struggling to keep my eyes open. It's weird because I've been using it fairly regularly for a couple of months now yet I don't seem to have developed any noticeable tolerance. I try not to use it every day, and I keep binging behaviour for weekends.
I've done it in doses up to a quarter gram and found it disappointing at every level, and if I wanted to get opiated (which I don't often) I'd rather spend my pennies on co-codamol.

Anyway, I'm happy to continue the discussion if you want to, but please reply by PM rather than posting in this thread, as we're cluttering it up with an exchange that is of little interest to anyone but you or I (well, just you, if I'm honest ;)).
 
Did Camfet with DHC on Friday. Bloody lovely combo. It really seems to bring out the best in both chems, the only downside being the extreme dry mouth it gives you. Was constantly licking my lips to stop them from crusting up on me. I must have looked a bit odd, seeing this was at work lol.
 
It seems that people are looking for a replacement for some other drug (e.g. meph) and when they don't get the exact same effects the new drug is "shite". Well yes, it is shite if the other drug is the one you really want.

very very good point, and yeah, the amount of new chems that were being marketed after the meph ban were initially aimed at and snapped up by people desperate for a meph replacement.
 
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