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New RCs in the UK Ver.3 - Get your disappointment in here

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As you mentioned, doses seemed to vary wildly which would suggest a range of purities circulating. This was a while back though so things have (hopefully) improved a lot since then.
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I think the initial dosage estimates also underestimated them, thinking they would be along the lines of PCP. In my case, with the stuff I have, I think 150mg orally would be a very strong dose. again orally 100mg was kind of threshold, 120 mg had things fairly wonky but not to other worlds..
 
People were saying up to a gramme was needed for a moderate experience and 400-500mg doses seemed pretty common and not reported to be all that intense. Others were reporting similar effects from 100-200mg. That's a hell of a dose range to get a similar experience 8o
 
8o is a bit of an understatement. hadn't realised the doses of the impure stuff had been that high. does make me glad that the reports / doses I'd seen were in the 20-150 mg range, even though I do titrate it's likely if I thought the expected dose was somewhat greater, then I'd have used larger steps in dose than I did.
 
So I'm sure everyone's heard of Jolly Green Granules? Yes, thought so.

Well, one of the companies who sells it has released a "no binder" version and it's getting rave reviews, see below:

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Now I'm convinced it's a cathinone, here's one of my posts from another forum with a couple of reasons I'm sure its a cathinone.

The reason I've always been so convinced that JGG/B2 etc are cathinones is because of the way it works. Cathinones have a unique profile when it comes to effects.

Cathinones, unlike their Amphetamine cousins, don't give a clear headed high in my opinion. It's much more messy and uncontrollable (which I love). The euphoria (most intense with Mephedrone) tends to come in waves and the high is always so short lived. Again, with the duration, I like that it doesn't last long. I found Mephedrone, Methylone, Butylone, Flephedrone all messy. I found 3-FMC clear-headed though it still had that cathinone euphoria for me. Once your up on quite a lot of stimulants you're fucked for hours but you can come down on cathinones quite quickly and you can redose 'til your legs drop off.

JGG/B2 always gave me this sort of high, just felt weaker than Mephedrone.

Is it possible that there are a few cathinones that escaped the ban?

Also, whilst I'm meph'd out my brain and feeling dead dead chatty: If this was a new chemical *vendor clipped* and *vendor clipped* etc would all have it and be selling it pure. There's nothing to be gained from keeping the formula secret as we're only months away from the RC market being pushed back underground so surely they want to be quids in. I'm also positive that it would have been tested by various poeple at some point and if it'd been a new chemical it'd be well known by now.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for this to be an uncontrolled cathinone or a new set of chemicals altogether as they do have really great effects. Sure, they're not as amazing as Mephedrone but it'll be a while until we get a drug that gives that out-of-this-world explosive euphoric-empathic rush that Mephedrone provides. If it's a new chemical, *vendor clipped* and the other JGG sellers should contact other big vendors and get the chemical mass produced so it's cheaper. We may aswell go crazy and find a few gems before the government brings in the blanket ban.

My two cents!

I guess I'm kind of lucky since I can still get extremely high quality Mephedrone on the street. Though I would like to be able to order online, it's not great being involved with dealers and knowing the drug you're doing is illegal. Click HERE to see a picture of the Mephedrone I have currently (excuse the poor quality).
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What do you guys think about it?
 
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I'm not convinced JG crystal and JGG are the same chemical, the descriptions people who've had both are giving make them sound too different (and the crystal form not as good). Surely if they were the same chemical, they'd have the same effect. I can't see any logical reason why they would be different.

With B2 gone, I'm debating whether to get some JGG, but people are saying that the formula has changed and is now not as good as it was. I wish I could get real drugs 8)
 
xamkou - there are thio substituted cathinones which I think survived the ban, but if their amphetamine cousins are anything to go by they are deffo ones to avoid. more than likely the vendor/manufactuers were caught out by the comprehensiveness of the ban, probably expecting just mephedrone and the other common cathinones to be banned, and made other cathinone type things thinking they'd be safe.

b2 seemed likely to be a cathinone, similar to mephedrone but not quite the same, based on that IR spectrum thing that got posted a while back.
 
Shambles said:
People were saying up to a gramme was needed for a moderate experience and 400-500mg doses seemed pretty common and not reported to be all that intense. Others were reporting similar effects from 100-200mg. That's a hell of a dose range to get a similar experience 8o
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In the recent reappearance I have tested a couple of grams from different suppliers and found them to be consistent. One G does between 5 and 7 interesting times although some of these were also cocktailed with methoxetamine. (ROA snorting in increments) Not at hole levels but sufficient confusion to blur ego certainty.

The drawback for me is the hangover.After a decent but not titanic go at 4-MEO-PCP I spend a day and a half to two days feeling like Philboyd Studge, whereas Methoxetamine leaves without impairing my clarity.

Not saying it's not worth it, it is, but it hangs around a bit
 
Xamkou said:
Well, one of the companies who sells it has released a "no binder" version and it's getting rave reviews, see below:




What do you guys think about it?
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I know that as the "meph" I bought a few weeks ago, I got it as 50% that stuff in your photo, and 50% cut, for £15 a gram....

shit, even once cut had been removed, a bit like meph, but not.

Definitely wouldn't buy it agian, even uncut.

I got some proper meph again now and it really really good, BETTER than the pre-ban stuff, but sadly it's the last of it from this source.
 
If all this stuff is actually mephedrone + cutting agents, then surely it's bloody illegal. I really wouldn't want to risk having mephedrone shipped to me these days, let alone half-baked, cut, leftover meph from the good old days.
 
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Thoughts and feelings! Anyone taken this rc yet? What do you think of it? What dosage did you take? I've got my opinions, lets hear yours!
 
Well I took 500mgs over the course of a day and found it gave me a lot to say and a nice speedy feeling to it, also the batch I had smelled quite a lot like street amphetamine, i was able to sleep in the evening and I found it to be very nice to take and go about your ordinary business, chat to your friends and none of them thought I was wired!
 
I felt it was a 2nd rate stim at best. I needed around 2/3rds of a gram (both snorted and smoked) to get a decent ampthet type buzz, there was no euphoria. It did last for a good 5 hours or so though before beginning to wear off.

I also couldn't sleep and had a mild dragging headache the next day. I've heard plugging is the way forward for maximum effects but I'm not planning on doing this one again any time soon.
 
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I though it was good although each time I've taking it I've also been taking MDPV and GBL... but I can say that it felt pretty good :D I'm planning to get more in the future.
 
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I chased 50mg a time and found in to be a mild stimulant with no real negative effects, slept and ate fine afterwards. Did 500mg over a few days. Not bad but not great, probabaly wouldnt bother with it again. Not really into stims much anymore so maybe thats why, overal better than speed IMO
 
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Why the hell not just call it methoxetamine?

This trend for street terminology is just likely to make it easier to popularise (demonise that is) in the media, for instance, easy enough to write a nasty article about how 'meow meow' is the devil incarnate in The Sun </spit on the floor in disgust>, but if one were to call it '4-methoxy-(1-phenyl)-B-keto-isopropylamine', makes it a bit more 'remote' seeming, and not something little kids are getting blue kneecaps and heart attacks over=D

Good riddance to mephedrone from the known data about that particular drug, but having tried methoxetamine, and from the pharmacology of ketamine being known as fairly benign, I would rather see that ignored in the media.
 
By your logic calling it methoxetamine is wrong then. You should call it 75-ecto-(1-mexy-dogturd)-Z-alpha-cheeseface or whatever.

Mephedrone is still about, can't see it totally disappearing for a long time, if ever. It's not "on the street" or at least not uncut but it's still very much available online.
 
Well mephedrone, wasn't so bad, but when it picked up names like 'meow meow', I think that made it an easier target. I am not biased there, I never tried mephedrone, never plan to either.

But 'meow meow' made it sound like something a 10yo schoolkid might pass round the playground at lunch break and cark it in maths class-just the common, dumbed-down street name

Metoxetamine is a sensible enough name, its generally a slang term that appears in the media in a nastygram article, methoxy-substituted ketamine analog, methyl ether instead of chlorophenyl, on the position next door.

But the moment it recieves a nasty, schoolkid-esque name like 'mexy', easy meat for the Sun or the daily star.
 
Aye, I agree on that meow meow patter. Absolutely shocking chat. I didn't think meph or drone was too bad though, same with mexy, it's essentially just a shortened version of methoxetamine. Saying methoxetamine every time you mention it would get a bit annoying, it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. MXE would be better, but even then I prefer a word rather than a series of letters. I even find saying MDMA all the time slightly annoying but there's no chance I'm going to start calling it "madman" which is the only slang term for MDMA around here that most people would understand straight away.
 
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