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New RCs in the UK Ver.3 - Get your disappointment in here

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What you do is research where you are buying from, do a whois on the url and see if they own any other sites, ask people on forums (that allow it) if they have bought there & what the quality is like.

If the product turns out to be shit, email them complaining, don't shop there again, tell people on forums that their product is jizz.

We shouldn't have to, vendors should be competent and honest, but the reality is very different.

Or just stick to the Class As.
 
ashtray girl said:
What you do is research where you are buying from, do a whois on the url and see if they own any other sites, ask people on forums (that allow it) if they have bought there & what the quality is like.

If the product turns out to be shit, email them complaining, don't shop there again, tell people on forums that their product is jizz.

We shouldn't have to, vendors should be competent and honest, but the reality is very different.

Or just stick to the Class As.
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Shopped at this one on a recommendation. I checked beforehand that I'd be sent tan mdai, but was sent a white powder instead. 8)

Complained by e-mail, got no response.

So started necking the stuff anyway.

It's *probably* not mdai, but at least it has effects (which is more than I can say for the last 2 lots of mdai I bought elsewhere)!

I can't get class As...

I don't think there's any such thing as a 100% reliable vendor now.
 
ashtray girl said:
What you do is research where you are buying from, do a whois on the url and see if they own any other sites, ask people on forums (that allow it) if they have bought there & what the quality is like.

If the product turns out to be shit, email them complaining, don't shop there again, tell people on forums that their product is jizz.

We shouldn't have to, vendors should be competent and honest, but the reality is very different.

Or just stick to the Class As.
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We got some crap product from a vendor ages ago. No chance of sourcing as I can't even remember who the hell it was or what had been ordered. Anyway, Sent a complaint to the company. They sent us the better product ( there had been a mix up from the people they get their stuff from 8) ) Anyway they sent us the correct product and if I remember right they either sent us more than the original order or something else along with it. Nice people. They apologised quite a bit in the email they sent back. Sometimes they're not all bad. Mind you that was a good year or so ago. Most of the vendors I've run across these days tend to be pricks selling random shite that I dont even think they know whats in it.
 
I don't live in the UK. But, you know, the demise of the RC-scene affect me and other people on the continent too. It's your fault!
An Island full of insane drug pigs is dragging the thing down into a frenzy of greed. There is obviously a huge market in the UK for random white powders that fuck you up somewhat. What happened to moderation and common sense? As long as people are stupid enough to buy even after others report that they have been deceived this absurd circus of scams will go on.
 
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agnetha said:
An Island full of insane drug pigs is dragging the thing down into a frenzy of greed.
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Nice to meet you too, johnny foreignor! :p

You're obviously just envious of a nation of thugs and drugs. Get back to your lahdi-dah cafe culture before you got bottled by some chav. ;):)
 
agnetha said:
I don't live in the UK. But, you know, the demise of the RC-scene me and other people on the continent too. It's your fault!
An Island full of insane drug pigs is dragging the thing down
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Originally posted in trip reports by Agnetha
s I stumbled out of an ER this morning where I was admitted because I overdosed on 2C-P
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We drug pigs have a saying about glasshouses and stones. You follow?
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
Originally posted in trip reports by Agnetha

We drug pigs have a saying about glasshouses and stones. You follow?
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Ok, ok. You have a point there. I've exhibited pretty reckless behaviour myself. So maybe I should have kept my mouth shut. But come on, let's be fair: Have you read the 6-APB thread? There is some truth to the point I made.

Edit: Should have kept the tone civil too.
 
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The Legal High market (UK)

6-APB - THE first legal high in history where the chemical structure has been released WELL before any substantial supplies were available for the general public AND no trip reports/evidence of human use existing in the public domain(not even a whisper of conversation really).

THIS very point has had my brain going in circles

never seen anything like it before. It's VERY reminiscent of something like the iphone4 release. People are SOOO desperate to get their hands on it - stocks sell out as soon as companies get it in stock Considering many that have come before have been sold without disclosure of ingredients(LU - doves = butylone, SPICE = cannabinoids), I'm starting to wonder whether this 6-apb Mayhem is really a BRAND NAME or a cover. Ok technically a chemical name but then again LU-doves said they "did not contain ketones". Almost pandering to the market who, post-mephedrone, are desperate for a "research chemical" (i.e a pure chemical) that does the trick.

If this isn't the case and 6-apb mayhem is really over that ONE chemical - is this the new stage of evolution of "legal highs" in the UK - people are literally drooling over the next soon to be released Compound X (of known structure X) before any published trip reports released.

THIS THREAD IS NOT ENTIRELY ABOUT 6-APB AND AS USUAL PLEASE DO NOT TALK OR REFER TO SUPPLIERS TO RUIN THIS THREAD.
 
As a person that has tried it I kind of understand the desperation in the UK to get their hands on this one......it is a nice, euphoric stimulant wtih an 8/10 score for euphoria and a 2/10 score for psychedelia. To me mephedrone craps all over it, but I'm in the states and we have TOO many drugs to choose from, so the "mania" is news to me. I can't go to the store without someone asking me if I want to buy coke/meth/you name it....our war on drugs is no war at all.
 
Everyone just wants the convenience of legality, noone expects it to be as good as MDMA or coke or whatever the next one mimics, but people work themselves up into such hype as they speculate upon it and the hype builds upon itself. From what I've read it's total pot-luck as to whether you enjoy it and it's expensive so this really hasn't become popular at all, certainly for the better.
I think the situation could have been/could be eased by disallowing the discussion of a chemical which is not available for general release.
Trusted users and mods posting reviews of samples fell only a little short of shilling, and the favourable reports of un-tested samples did nothing to quell the hype.
 
6-APB/MDAI/5-IAI - New Information

Just received this very insightful message from a current distributor of RCs in the UK. Be aware of the last sentence where we're reminded that the data is based on a selection of samples and is therefore not entirely conclusive, but I was both interested to have suspicions confirmed and, equally, impressed that a distributor would carry out the initiative to perform the necessary tests on these products, which I think we've all been waiting for.

For the moment I can only presume that the tests were carried out using a proper method, presumably GC/MS, but again, be aware that this information has come from a distributor, and as such it wouldn't be unreasonable to suggest that their information is either biased or omits details that would be harmful to their business. That said, it looks pretty objective to me, and I have no reason not to trust their data.

Special mention to "caramello" for posting this before me, didn't realise they'd done so before starting the thread, but I thought it was important enough to leave here in EADD, since it directly affects those of us in that region.

Test results of current available Research Chemicals

As mentioned above we have detailed some of the results of the tests completed on the currently available chemicals in the UK.

6-APB

Pellets, capsules and powdered variations of these products have been tested and the results have been varied. Some pellets did contain 6-APB but also contained caffeine and A-PVP which is understand to be an illegal controlled substance in the UK. Tests on capsules and powders were shown to contain no 6-APB but contained other controlled substances which are also illegal in the UK. Results have concluded that although 6-APB is available in the UK the samples that were tested contained chemicals that are controlled by the Misuse of Drugs Act.

5-IAI

None of the tested samples contained 5-IAI. Various other controlled chemicals including Mephedrone, MDPV and Naphyrone were found to be in these samples. The results concluded that there is currently no 5-IAI available in the UK and any products that are offered for sale contain other unknown chemicals that could be illegal and controlled by the Misuse of Drugs Act.

MDAI

Various samples of MDAI have been tested. Although earlier samples were of a very low purity level, recent samples have shown higher purity levels.

Additionally some of the samples tested contained no MDAI but other controlled chemicals. The results concluded that although there is high purity MDAI available unless you are able to obtain analytical data of the chemical you have purchased you cannot be sure that the compound is pure or even contains MDAI.

Naphyrone

9 out of 10 samples of Naphyrone tested did not contain Naphyrone but contained Mephedrone, MDPV or other substances controlled by the Misuse of Drugs Act. The results concluded that if purchasing Naphyrone you are highly likely to be purchasing a controlled substance.

NRG-1,2,3 and E-1,2,3, Eric 1,2,3 etc

All were found to contain controlled substances which are banned under the Misuse of Drugs Act.


Due to these results we would urge caution to anyone purchasing any of these chemicals in the UK as the majority contain controlled substances and are illegal under the Misuse of Drugs Act. Although there are batches of high purity MDAI available from a small selection of sources the consistency of supply can vary. If you do purchase any of these chemicals it is highly possible that you may be breaching the Misuse of Drugs Act for possession of a controlled substance. We would advise any purchaser to obtain a recent analytical test of the chemical to ensure that they do not fall foul of the law. Even if you are unaware that the product you purchase is illegal you could still face prosecution for possession of a controlled substance.


Please note that the tests are not conclusive and are only based upon a selection of samples. However these tests do correlate with other recent tests.
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Ah, I did have a look but couldn't see it.
Mods, if you find it appropriate, delete away! Just edited the first post to say I think it's important to have it in EADD though, since it also mentions other compounds, all of which affect those of us in the UK especially, and is therefore relevant to the interests of EADD.
 
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Good job I haven't dipped my toes into these waters yet.
Anyway soon the mushrooms will be growing and they will be liberty caps if going with someone who's picked the same few patches for 20 years.

Personally I've virtually given up with chemicals, apart from prescribed ones, as who knows what the fucks in them?
Herbal/naturally occuring substances is for me now the way to go, unless I know what I'm getting. Illegal powders and pills are cut to fuck wank and so are the loophole shit. But everyone should have known this for 18 months or more, considering that after about Feb 2009 MDPV started appearing in about 20 different types, none of which compared to the 2008 version.
 
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