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I believe that batch of AMT was the same one that was behind the mini-boom last year according to certain peeps who know such things - was being stocked by a number of UK/EU vendors. It wasn't tainted but it was generally said to be a pretty poor synth - weak and mongy rather than bouncing off the walls and telling the world you love it kinda stuff. I think some whose only experience of AMT will be in for a pleasant surprise if the new batches are of the top-notch variety.
 
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I believe that batch of AMT was the same one that was behind the mini-boom last year according to certain peeps who know such things - was being stocked by a number of UK/EU vendors. It wasn't tainted but it was generally said to be a pretty poor synth - weak and mongy rather than bouncing off the walls and telling the world you love it kinda stuff. I think some whose only experience of AMT will be in for a pleasant surprise if the new batches are of the top-notch variety.
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Christ I need to get some of this stuff...
 
I just looked at my old suppliers page. Says they are now selling MDAI, Dimethocaine and NRG-1. The MDAI is brown powder apparently and the Dimethocaine is crystalline powder...

I bet anything there will be alot of people buying the Dimethocaine and trying to pass it off as coke!

Would quite like to give AMT a go. And MDAI sounds nice, although not really a sesh type drug from what I've read. And Dimethocaine would be interesting to see what it's like...

All those have been around a while though and we know a fair bit about them. Fuck all of these new unknown RC's that sound like 80hrs of paranoia and feeling like death :\
 
It wasn't tainted but it was generally said to be a pretty poor synth
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Yeah what I got wasn't nearly as potent as I expected and never really went anywhere interesting, so I'm still interested in it.


captain codshit said:
Alot of people who enjoy pills/coke etc and do them every weekend would not be into the idea of tripping regularly.
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^ totally agree, plus the type of people into the idea of tripping atall are probably more likely to do a bit of reading before taking anything. I hope!
 
Coolio said:
Why not? AMT is like LSD but better. The impact it would have on society if it went mainstream would probably be positive.
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Bit idealistic Ceres. My view is that if we've seen a thousand lightweights get into trouble because they think they have a problem with mephedrone then wait until you see the same people tripping for 18 hours and wanting it to stop. If you think only 'the enlightened' will want it then you are underestimating the desire of the vendors to get rich quick.

Light the touch paper and stand well back.
 
Thing with AMT is that it's only really properly trippy at higher doses, in my experience. Which will be exactly what the less-informed punter will go for I suspect. Low-moderate doses are more like the best MDMA you ever had with some minor trippiness in the middle, in my experience. If you love MDMA I suspect you will adore AMT. Especially if you like a side-order of swirls with your insane euphoria. I was still texting everyone on my phone messages with more hearts and kisses than words at the 24 hour point. The afterglow lasted weeks. I sometimes wonder if powdered bliss smells of rancid arseholes.
 
If anyone fancies putting doing a marquis test on any of these new RC and posting a picture of the results it would be helpful. Would be nice to have a thread purely for photos of various substances that have been tested.
 
Bearlove said:
If anyone fancies putting doing a marquis test on any of these new RC and posting a picture of the results it would be helpful. Would be nice to have a thread purely for photos of various substances that have been tested.
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An excellent idea.. :) Would be an especially useful reference to have in N.I. where the dealers tend to sell $anything as ("best mdma ever"/"space coke" / insert bullsh*t here )
 
We have a similar thread in PD - Safer Research Chemical User's Guide. But it's a stop-start affair and really never been fleshed out. There are pics of quite a number of Marquis reactions to a range of RCs on Erowid but I don't have the link to hand. May well be in that thread somewhere. It's definitely in the Bromo-Dragonfly warning thread somewhere. Would definitely be a great resource but people promise to post pics then never bloody do :!
 
Bearlove said:
If anyone fancies putting doing a marquis test on any of these new RC and posting a picture of the results it would be helpful. Would be nice to have a thread purely for photos of various substances that have been tested.
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Marquis test isn't really relevant outside the amphetamine family, most of the presumptive tests for other types of drugs involve reagents that are not easy to come by unfortunately.

It would be great to put together a list of those that are though.
 
That's what the PD mods put the lack of appetite when we try to resurrect that thread down to - it's of limited use but it would be of some use. The 2Cs, DOx etc can all be told apart with reasonable accuracy, I believe. That's not really what's on the mainstream RC market though.
 
Shambles said:
Thing with AMT is that it's only really properly trippy at higher doses, in my experience. Which will be exactly what the less-informed punter will go for I suspect. Low-moderate doses are more like the best MDMA you ever had with some minor trippiness in the middle, in my experience. If you love MDMA I suspect you will adore AMT. Especially if you like a side-order of swirls with your insane euphoria. I was still texting everyone on my phone messages with more hearts and kisses than words at the 24 hour point. The afterglow lasted weeks. I sometimes wonder if powdered bliss smells of rancid arseholes.
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Sounds epic Shambles! :) One thing I have noticed with doing MDMA last thursday was I had no afterglow and a horrid comedown. Usually I enjoy the comedown and afterglow. I'm still not sure if it was because I did too much - 700mgs in a night. Or because I had used mephedrone the friday before. Last time I'd had MDMA I hadn't had drugs in 5 weeks and it was pure magic with a couple of those sonics. I am now certainly a believer that it is far better at around 300-500mg a night max.

AMT sounds ace. I love a bit of trippiness with a euphoric dunt. 2 drops of liquid LSD and 150mg MDMA a couple hours later was about the best experiance I've had on drugs. Overall though I preffer the massive euphoria and empathy / appreciation for tunes that I get from MDMA to LSD. AMT certainly sounds like it would be right up my street. %)

I can kind of see what SHM is saying as some people are obviously going to take the piss should AMT become widely available like meph. I'm still not convinced even if it was though that it would become that popular. I think MDAI and Dimethocaine will be the ones most likely to appear on the street...
 
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I think they may well be the front runners as they are sort of similar to better known drugs. AMT has similarities to MDMA and LSD but definitely has it's own character and is not to all tastes plus the duration is bound to be an issue - not one for schoolnights ;)
 
Shambles said:
That's what the PD mods put the lack of appetite when we try to resurrect that thread down to - it's of limited use but it would be of some use. The 2Cs, DOx etc can all be told apart with reasonable accuracy, I believe. That's not really what's on the mainstream RC market though.
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It's a bit of a neglected subject these days, infact I've even found books from the 17th century(!) more useful for this sort of thing than anything written after ww2! The focus is all on expensive high-tech instruments now...
 
Shambles said:
The 17C - when new RCs really were new RCs =D
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Even back then people wanted to know if their coke was real or not :D

The sudden appearance of all these new chems though is going to make it important again, gotta have something simple enough even a policeman can use if you want to save time and cash while you're trying to prosecute people....

>oops, I mean't 18th century ;)

edit2>19th even, thinking about it.
 
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Not really - caught with anything remotely suspicious, get it confiscated, await your fate. It's not like the police test drugs themselves as it is - random powder in a wrap = sent to the labs while you sweat it on bail.

And I believe it was the early 18C when Novocaine was first used as a cocaine cut.
 
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