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New Oxycontin (op) rumor or fact may be coming off the shelves ?~?~?

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I also have heard Purdue is thinking of returning to the old formula, mainly becuz of sales, just myself, my insurance spends $1450 a month on 80's. Also I have been gettin' them for over 15 years, so just me alone that's a nice piece of change! I have changed over to name brand Roxcycodone since that change, but I really feel and hope the OC's come back. If anyone out there is willing to also stop getting the OP's and reduce Purdues profits even more would really help, so think about it people, if they are losing money, they will return to the old formula, please join me in this I quess kinda boycott, it'll work....THANKS!!!
 
vinegar doesnt do much but leave you with a ball of goo when your done applying the heat and its all evaporated....a full op defeat would have to include being able to slam the pill also snorting it is less effective than eating them.....what purdue may do is come out with a new matrix or go ahead with the niacin shit that already is in the 60mg ir's my buddy swears they will pull that after someone shoots one and there heart fails from the niacin itself........the facts are they cant fuck with a good thing....the way it was (oc formula) is as safe as it can be alter it and you make it more harmful every time no matter what, 100% positive
 
The new Oxycontin OP

is there ANY way to plug these?? It seems adding water jus makes the abuse-counter additive gel up and ruin the pill and the drug contained within. Does anyone know the best ways around the anti-abuse properties. There HAS to be a way. I'm startin to think that there is not even any narcotic in these things. Can they be plugged, has anyone successfully plugged the new oxycontin OP 60s or 80's??? pls helP. I'm a sickle cell chronic pain sufferer and tho I 'abuse' I need the pain relief!
 
SickleCellKid said:
is there ANY way to plug these?? It seems adding water jus makes the abuse-counter additive gel up and ruin the pill and the drug contained within. Does anyone know the best ways around the anti-abuse properties. There HAS to be a way. I'm startin to think that there is not even any narcotic in these things. Can they be plugged, has anyone successfully plugged the new oxycontin OP 60s or 80's??? pls helP. I'm a sickle cell chronic pain sufferer and tho I 'abuse' I need the pain relief!
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Keep on the topic! You can plug oxy but it isnt effective, morphine is good for that....
 
You don't know what the hell u are talkin about. I have plugged oxys for a year and had no trouble until the ops came out. And don't tell me to keep on topic and don't reply unless you have useful information you piece of crap. Y the hell wud someone do if if its 'ineffective' you moron! Go drown yourself in your mothers grave when it rains btch
 
dntcheckthtbxdoc said:

Keep on the topic! You can plug oxy but it isnt effective, morphine is good for that....
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u don't know what the hell u are talkin about. I have plugged oxys for a year and had no trouble until the ops came out. And don't tell me to keep on topic and don't reply unless you have useful information you piece of crap. Y the hell wud someone do if if its 'ineffective' you moron! Go drown yourself in your mothers grave when it rains btch
 
Violenza666 said:
Vinegar defeats the OPs anyways, but I would still love to see them taken off the market.
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REALLY??? dont' tease me like that lol. How?? I have SC.Anemia and am a chronic pain sufferer. I have plugged O.C's until the dreaded cursed OPs were jus released and I got my first months supply of them Friday. Do you know if they can be plugged. and eitehr way what is the vinegar method? Could you pls tell me/explain. I would most appreciate it thank you!
 
my mom works at a pharmacy as a drug buyer and an oxycontin rep was just in promoting the new OC's...so i'd say they're not discontinuing them, but who knows
 
SickleCellKid said:
You don't know what the hell u are talkin about. I have plugged oxys for a year and had no trouble until the ops came out. And don't tell me to keep on topic and don't reply unless you have useful information you piece of crap. Y the hell wud someone do if if its 'ineffective' you moron! Go drown yourself in your mothers grave when it rains btch
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well by the sound an attitude of your post, i wouldnt be surprised if YOU were that moron doing something ineffective.....

but plugging does work, try to clean your bowel out first, have a good poop....

but sorry for bein off topic...


Do you guys really think they will go back to old? i keep getting responces from random people ive talked to (not all CPP or people who take pain meds for any reason, but some CPP as well) and they all were under the impression if they changed something it would prob be to pull it completely, with all the heat and problems...

Then i heard from someone, radio to ear to ear to my ear...so i really hope it isnt true, but supposedly on some news station a friend of my mothers heard that they were thinking of removing oxycontin off the market completely

Im not sure who "They" is in this situation, not sure if they misheard and it was just this formula OP will be taken off shelves, this person smokes alot of ganja so they tend to have a bad memory and get things mixed up....(not saying everyone does, just this person)

Well, i really hope not, also MY personal opinion (and i would hate this) is that they may rework a new matrix (which will probably still be some nasty plastic shit, anything in the direction of this waxy/plastic crap seems to be rough on My stomach, even the old Teva's (never had the mallies) or possibly just do the Narcan version, i know several people were workin on a narcan formula and it was gettin pretty close to FDA approval and have no idea what reason it didnt pass (and they have been trying sense like 2000-2002 or so..) so hopefully they dont do that (atleast not ONLY that..)


Having 2 types i think would be very useful, have doctors decide what type should go to which people....if thye dont trust the person, give them the crappy type? shrug... course then you may end up with people who cant take the crappy type and a doctor not willing to give the good...

I also still find it really wierd that rite aid and wallgreens here order from the same exact poeple but rite aid is just, i guess, not welcome to order generics? so awkward that ethex ONLY at wallgreens and also why isnt Apotex out there more? maby those were old stock? shrug...

Sorry for the off topic but there was ontopic in there heh...

honestly right now i like how things are simply cause my insurance can get the OC without paying an assload, if they go back to generic sucks and brand is good im gona be bummed payin an arseload again...
 
Bear in mind that every single day there are new people being prescribed painkillers and they have nothing to compare the OPs to. Provided their doctor finds a dose which controls their pain, those people aren't going to be unhappy with the medication.

At this point there is no reason for the company to pull the new formulation. Companies don't usually voluntarily pull drugs unless there are widespread, severe adverse reactions and they fear their drug being banned. What the company is more likely to do is offer both versions of the drug (my understanding is that they do still manufacture the old formulation but not under the OC brand) while they rework the new formulation.

It seems only a matter of time before companies manufacturing drugs with a high potential for abuse are required by the FDA to make their formulations "abuse-proof" and the authority to prescribe instant release formulations becomes restricted.
 
You guys know that in OD, there is an entire thread full of various techniques used to defeat the OP time-release? Just FYI, there is some good info in there! Crush -> Microwave till they begin to turn yellow -> freeze -> crush to a fine powder seems to be a pretty popular and effective strategy. Again, I suggest reading through the thread to get a good idea of this technique and maybe others (I think this is by far the best, though...)
 
Lolie said:
Bear in mind that every single day there are new people being prescribed painkillers and they have nothing to compare the OPs to. Provided their doctor finds a dose which controls their pain, those people aren't going to be unhappy with the medication.

At this point there is no reason for the company to pull the new formulation. Companies don't usually voluntarily pull drugs unless there are widespread, severe adverse reactions and they fear their drug being banned. What the company is more likely to do is offer both versions of the drug (my understanding is that they do still manufacture the old formulation but not under the OC brand) while they rework the new formulation.

It seems only a matter of time before companies manufacturing drugs with a high potential for abuse are required by the FDA to make their formulations "abuse-proof" and the authority to prescribe instant release formulations becomes restricted.
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Lolie here has a point BUT, the zillion of heads that are used to the old oc formula and the side effects reported no pharm company will risk this shit so they are just in a trial period right now when they get that certain number of complaints if not already they will pull it the other product was the number 1 pain killer out there. thee are way too many negatives for purdue than positives with the new op, purdue is too smart to pull the ethex or not bring back the original oc's, The masses that have died from oxycontin are people that have never touched the shit or drank beer with it or thought they are a bad ass and cause it being such a small pill...We all need to remember they were not forced to make this new formula op they did it thinking it would save them from new lawsuits....
 
i'm surprised they didn't just use narcan the way they did w/ talwin years ago. seems like incorporating narcan would be the easiest way to stop abuse of OC.
i really don't think they're going to quit making the new formulation. too much money involved and like someone already said it's seriously doubtful a drug company would pull anything off the market unless the fda is about to perma-ban them.
-izzy
 
The patents for these "abuse-proof" drugs usually list a number of anti-abuse measures which the manufacturers can mix and match at will - this allows them to add and subtract stuff within the original patent.

I'm betting that the gelling mechanism is only one of the anti-abuse measures covered under the patent for the OPs and that the manufacturer would reformulate to swap it with one of the others (and if you read the anti-abuse measures in the patents of some other drugs, some of them are pretty high risk) long before they'd ever pull the drug from market.

Anti-abuse measures are here to stay in drugs with high abuse potential and they'll eventually become mandatory unless the pharmaceutical industry itself voluntarily introduces them. Yeah it's about protecting themselves from lawsuits, but its also about taking some measures voluntarily now and getting early patents on those rather than waiting for the FDA to mandate such measures and finding themselves playing catchup.

You have to remember that drug companies think literally years ahead and it wouldn't surprise me if these companies already have second and third generation "anti-abuse" formulations already in development.
 
some of them are "pretty high risk?"

pretty high risk for what? abuse? adverse reactons?

wasnt quite sure what ya meant there...
 
wow, i cant believe now we have moderators pointing us to places to defeat OP but closes the most useful thread to most of us useing OC..... these moderators blow my mind nearly every time i see a post by them....redicilous...
 
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