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Regarding AMT, I've got a stash I bought about a year ago and not got round to trying yet (just like the 6-APB I bought at the same time). Someone earlier said they really rate vaping AMT over oral dosing, as long as it's the freebase. Is there any easy way of telling if I've got the freebase or not? If I haven't got the freebase, is it not possible to vape it?

freebase wont disolve in water....

i wouldnt vape it myself....plugging it has reduced me to shaking mess, very twitchy.
apperently vaping brings out the 'dirty stim' side out more and IMO its already got enough of that going on
 
You can also put a small amount of your aMT on foil and heat it. If it melts it's freebase. If not it ain't.

I've never really gotten much stimulation from aMT whatever the ROA. Seems to vary a lot between individuals. I actually find it very mellow indeed so chasing it adds a pleasing edge of stimulation. Still a long way from being properly stimulating though. Batches seem to vary wildly too. Has never been the most consistent substance on the market for some reason.
 
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to clarify:

not sure if 'stimulation' is the right word for the way it affected me, my legs were shaking like i'd trapped a nerve, but i was chilled and content laying down...

the thing that did bother me was when i had a drink, especially tea, my hands would sweat instantly....im used to drugs making me sweat....buy it was almost as if the AMT was making my body reject the water....

kinda hard to explain but it wasnt anything ive ever got from MD or other stims or psychs....made me wonder if my body didnt like it...

didnt get dehydrated...so yeah was just a bit odd
 
Could just be a batch issue. Have never known a chem that varies so wildly from batch to batch. Most stuff from UK vendors has not been getting the best reviews of late. I picked up a gramme of freebase on sale which is okay but seems very weak and kinda sedating compared to freebase I've had before. One of those ones that you kinda have to get lucky on which batch you happen to buy from, methinks.

Also, in this case more sometimes is actually more. The annoying physical issues often seem to fade away at the right dose. Underdose and all you get are annoying physical issues and not much else. Overdo a dose and you're utterly twatted (generally in a goooooood way though =D). You kinda need to get to know each batch and work out your sweetspot anew each time.

All that aside, some people just don't get on with the stuff.
 
Is anyone on here still getting good MXE? Does it still exist? I fuckin miss that baby summat rotten. It was perfect for a nice chilled evening's entertainment with that phenomenal afterglow for the next few days. Aww, wish I had some now...

I got to try some recently after a solid years break I'd say. I stopped using as I started to get weird headaches, feeling depressed and not the original effects I was getting after daily use. I'm also a big fan of ketamine and quality/availability improved so I was able to switch back to ketamine.

Opinion is... I got the old effects I wanted back. Very good for getting me in the mood to get up and do something, be productive/positive, etc. I did have one night where I cained far too much and ended up an uncomfortable anesthetized ball however that also involved k cider and a fair wack was consumed.

My only problem was the quality. It just wasn't like I remember it being potency wise. I remember a tiny, tiny key of this powder under my tongue used to have me fucked. A few more and my mouth would be numb to the point of me slurring my words. I'd have intense m-holes that sweeped me across lands. I managed to get 1 decent m-hole and even then that was coupled with some zopiclone and weed, was seeing yellow ducks and my bed covers turned into a sea before going into it properly. I don't know if this is due to my ketamine tolerance which is significantly higher compared to pre-ban times or the fact that the quality has just gotten worse. My friend did say that he was informed the batch he ordered was of a high purity and meant to essentially be pre ban. Unfortunately I can't remember the batches of pre-ban so I can't say what batch this compared to. I would buy again though, but understand that I have to rack lines of it now rather than small keys. Also with a bit more self-control, I get a lot more out of MXE when I dose say once a week all out compared to every night which leads to depression for me.
 
I got to try some recently after a solid years break I'd say. I stopped using as I started to get weird headaches, feeling depressed and not the original effects I was getting after daily use. I'm also a big fan of ketamine and quality/availability improved so I was able to switch back to ketamine.

My only problem was the quality. It just wasn't like I remember it being potency wise.

This was what I did, too. It was awesome to have that sensation back, but I also noticed that potency appeared to be lower. It's possible the compound has denatured over time, but given the stability of its Arylcyclohexylamine cousins this seems a little unlikely, though I'd be happy to be corrected on that. It seems more likely that dissociative cross-tolerance is the culprit.
When I started using MXE, it was after a period of semi-intentional abstinence from Ketamine. It was was also at the tail end of several months worth of Ketamine drought in the UK. Additionally, it's my belief that dissociative tolerance (both to each drug and also across the board) can linger for a very long time. Upwards of a year, perhaps. In the year off MXE I re-developed my tolerance to Ketamine, 3-MeO-PCP and N-Ethylketamine, and I think this had a marked effect on my MXE tolerance. I would suggest that a lot of the people that have had a similar experience of 'reduced potency' might be in the same boat. Just a thought.
 
I 100% agree that dissociative tolerance is one of those things that takes a long time to go away and that there is cross tolerance. With ketamine I feel it's almost like there are two tolerances to the person that binges/uses regularly. The first is an overall initial tolerance that just doesn't go away, maybe slightly after months of usage, it's the reason why when even if I've taken a break from ketamine if I an another inexperienced person is given 150mg they might k-hole and I wont. As said this doesn't go away, or for me I haven't been able to take a long enough break for it to and it's the same for anyone else I know who enjoys ket.

The second is a tolerance from binging, i.e. if you go for days straight by the end it's just impossible to k-hole full stop. This is solved by say 3-7 days break, but you will still have that initial tolerance. I think there was more of a chance to beat the second tolerance when the ketamine was better quality. So it really wouldn't surprise me if there was cross-tolerance between them all, even without chemistry knowledge.

I wouldn't have been able to sniff half of what I did on my heaviest night on MXE recently without going unconscious if it had've been 2 years ago basically, but was still standing/talking this time round. I don't think it's as bad as mephedrone though with the various batches, people were aware of banning/laws/etc this time with MXE. Anyone who seriously loved the stuff most likely still has a stash, I was put off it by that point but have realized now the drug is actually very rewarding when used irregularly and would hope to do that in the future.

I and friends agree it's excellent for reevaluating things and motivating yourself to pursue interests. However you can only properly follow these decisions if you act upon them quickly, binging defeats this completely.
 
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God I would do many things for that batch of MXE around just before the ban. Had a slight tannish colour to it. The epiphanies I got off that stuff was surreal. Was a bit of a life changer for me with regards to where I'm at now. Recently had some Ket for the first time and although it was great, I found it to be way more recreational than anything. MXE was very therapeutic in the days after. Tried a few batches from euro vendors but they are all complete shit. Gave up a while ago. Thinking about 3-Meo-PCP though. Heard it can be just as good but slightly different, to be expected I suppose.
 
^ Really? I guess I may have to investigate further. But believe me that last stuff was utterly insanely bollox I vowed never to try again. That was after going on recommendations on such certain review sites...
 
I stopped getting MXE after it started just generally not agreeing with me. Started on the 3 Meos and 4 meos. They were good fun, think I am somewhat done with dissociatives for now.
 
think I am somewhat done with dissociatives for now.

Me too! Well, all arylcyclohexylamines except for the odd ketamine binge.

I even started selling/giving away my collection (3-MeO, 4-MeO, NEnK, 2-MeO-K) Everything except 5g of Dutch "pre-ban" MXE which I'm keeping for myself cos it's a ridiculously potent batch.

I'm just finding far less need to use dissociatives as an anti-depressant these days. Been having mind-blowingly good sex lately & dissociatives kill my sex drive so that's another reason i've gone off dissociating.
I do miss the the feeling of Zen I get from methoxetamine but after a year of daily MXE use followed by a few months of silly high dose K binges, I think my NMDA receptors deserve a nice long rest. %)
 
Me too! Well, all arylcyclohexylamines except for the odd ketamine binge.

I even started selling/giving away my collection (3-MeO, 4-MeO, NEnK, 2-MeO-K) Everything except 5g of Dutch "pre-ban" MXE which I'm keeping for myself cos it's a ridiculously potent batch.

I'm just finding far less need to use dissociatives as an anti-depressant these days. Been having mind-blowingly good sex lately & dissociatives kill my sex drive so that's another reason i've gone off dissociating.
I do miss the the feeling of Zen I get from methoxetamine but after a year of daily MXE use followed by a few months of silly high dose K binges, I think my NMDA receptors deserve a nice long rest. %)

You are a very wise man, sir. Sounds like the stuff I had. I fucking wish I had done the same and stocked up.

See that's the thing though. You have it there for when and if you ever need the anti-depressant effects. It's absolutely shocking how there is no research being done on it's effects. Good to hear that things are all positive for you now. I should have done the same when things were going well for me last year. Instead I would waste the odd line here and there. I seriously don't believe I'll ever come close to getting that level of quality. Save that stash man, and enjoy :)
 
I'm just finding far less need to use dissociatives as an anti-depressant these days. Been having mind-blowingly good sex lately & dissociatives kill my sex drive so that's another reason i've gone off dissociating.
I do miss the the feeling of Zen I get from methoxetamine but after a year of daily MXE use followed by a few months of silly high dose K binges, I think my NMDA receptors deserve a nice long rest. %)

I find that as life becomes more fulfilled in other ways, the use of dissociatives for that enforced 'escape and zen' state becomes both less attractive and less practical. If you're in a relationship, or when your social life is particularly active, or when the work life is good it starts to negatively impact interaction with the world. They're tricky to let go of but the less lonely and more confident I feel, the more I want to reduce their participance in my life. Though that becomes ironic, because when I do feel alone and helpless turn to disso's for relief, they create more 'distance' between the self and the things around us that we wish to connect with, and it becomes harder to reconcile that feeling with other fulfilling things...

On the other hand, I echo the others here that have said that sometimes, dissos like MXE and 3-MeO can be a catalyst for productivity, motivation and positivity. Unfortunately I find it too nearly impossible not to binge, and since indulgence is sometimes inevitable, I have to limit myself to only buying small-ish amounts with a couple of clear days in the knowledge that once I've got it, it's disappearing fast. Its therapeutic potential is destroyed by this behaviour, and it's people like me that ruin that potential for everyone!

My receptors are due another break too... After this next festival, maybe ;)
 
I find that as life becomes more fulfilled in other ways, the use of dissociatives for that enforced 'escape and zen' state becomes both less attractive and less practical. If you're in a relationship, or when your social life is particularly active, or when the work life is good it starts to negatively impact interaction with the world. They're tricky to let go of but the less lonely and more confident I feel, the more I want to reduce their participance in my life. Though that becomes ironic, because when I do feel alone and helpless turn to disso's for relief, they create more 'distance' between the self and the things around us that we wish to connect with, and it becomes harder to reconcile that feeling with other fulfilling things...

On the other hand, I echo the others here that have said that sometimes, dissos like MXE and 3-MeO can be a catalyst for productivity, motivation and positivity. Unfortunately I find it too nearly impossible not to binge, and since indulgence is sometimes inevitable, I have to limit myself to only buying small-ish amounts with a couple of clear days in the knowledge that once I've got it, it's disappearing fast. Its therapeutic potential is destroyed by this behaviour, and it's people like me that ruin that potential for everyone!

Jesus man, you took those words right outa my mouth! T'would seem we have the exact same relationship with dissociatives!

My receptors are due another break too... After this next festival, maybe ;)

I just went through 5g of K at a festival 2 weeks ago & thats me finished with dissociatives until the next festival at the end of July! :)
 
Jesus man, you took those words right outa my mouth! T'would seem we have the exact same relationship with dissociatives!

I just went through 5g of K at a festival 2 weeks ago & thats me finished with dissociatives until the next festival at the end of July! :)

Haha! In the spirit of what we're talking about, it's good to know that one isn't alone :)
 
It's absolutely shocking how there is no research being done on it's effects.

Big time! Especially when it has the potential to be the best anti-depressant on the market, the best ADD medication on the market, the best OCD medication on the market & could also be used in the treatment of various other psychological disorders. Methoxetamine is a fucking miracle drug IMHO!

Funkadelica said:
Good to hear that things are all positive for you now. I should have done the same when things were going well for me last year. Instead I would waste the odd line here and there. I seriously don't believe I'll ever come close to getting that level of quality. Save that stash man, and enjoy :

Cheers man! Will do :)

Dioxy said:
Haha! In the spirit of what we're talking about, it's good to know that one isn't alone

Tis indeed! :)
 
Sounds about as promising as diphenhydramine IMHO. There's probably a good reason that I've not heard of it since those raids in 2012 too.
 
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