New morphine user

[EEhouseEE]

The reason you didnt get as high is simply because in the hospital you received it by injection. Injecting like even just 20mg of morphine is alott stronger than id say 100mg oral, because orally only 30% absorbs ( 30% bioavailability)

 

[EEhouseEE]

What is everyone here sayingg..its cleary because he received it I.V the first time that hes not getting as high now when he does it orally....its obvious

 

[Tryptamino]

just take your pills as directed, you'll find that you'll still get the opiate effect, although obviously not as strong as the IM (or IV) injection that you got at the hospital, since it's bioavailability is much lower when taken orally. Morphine is not something to play around with, and if you really have no interest in becoming addicted to drugs, you'll understand that. The reason why you're getting so fond of it so fast is because you had it injected, which is pretty much an instant hook for almost everyone, with almost every drug. Make the right choice.

 

[Stevenski]

The reason you didnt get as high is simply because in the hospital you received it by injection. Injecting like even just 20mg of morphine is alott stronger than id say 100mg oral, because orally only 30% absorbs ( 30% bioavailability)

I don't know how big it was but they were giving me a shot every 3 hours as well as oxy contin & oxy norm in hospital. I went from crippling pain where I could not walk to nodding out & vomiting into a bag within a couple of minutes & just as I was floating along nicely another shot & I would be trashed again for a couple of days. IV morphine hit a lot faster & harder than oral opiates & it was enjoyable.

 

[EEhouseEE]

I don't know how big it was but they were giving me a shot every 3 hours as well as oxy contin & oxy norm in hospital. I went from crippling pain where I could not walk to nodding out & vomiting into a bag within a couple of minutes & just as I was floating along nicely another shot & I would be trashed again for a couple of days. IV morphine hit a lot faster & harder than oral opiates & it was enjoyable.

There you go..you said it your self you were nodding and shit.. Morphine I.V is alot stronger than oral so its gonna kinda hard getting high of it orally at least for now, just wait a few more days if you wanna do it orally.

 

[Stevenski]

There you go..you said it your self you were nodding and shit.. Morphine I.V is alot stronger than oral so its gonna kinda hard getting high of it orally at least for now, just wait a few more days if you wanna do it orally.

I was agreeing with you but I think you have me confused with the OP........

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Hey, I think 30 mg was pretty good. I felt something and it was pretty good. It was pleasant. That's kind of sad that I don't have more morphine though. Maybe it's better this way so I don't get an addiction. I have 75 mgs left I think. 2 more trips maybe? One thing though, is that I am scared shitless of overdoses, but from what I have gathered online, 50 mgs and under is not really dangerous, and apparently there are people who take more than that to treat pain, so I guess I am ok.

People using it for pain can often handle more than someone who is not in pain, and they may also have built up a tolerance as they don't start taking those doses with no tolerance. But yes, it sounds like it would be very unusual for a healthy adult to die from 50mg or less of oral morphine if they were not using any other drugs/alcohol (and didn't have much morphine remaining in their system from pervious doses). According to sources I looked at ~120mg is usually considered the minimum lethal dose for adults, but supposedly some people who were extra sensitive (or had some health problem or abnormality) have occasionally died from as little as 60 mg.

It's not that easy to overdose on oral opiates alone, you will run to unpleasant side effects long before you truly overdose.

That is not true, if you take a large enough dose all at once you can easily overdose on oral opioids. I have had friends who died from oral opioids. What a potentially fatal dose is varies greatly from person to person, and not just because of tolerance, although opioid tolerance plays a HUGE role, it can be very different even for 2 people with no tolerance. Especially with oral morphine since the absorption/effects vary so much between different people. And it is also tricky because it can be greatly affected by other factors like what you eat, your metabolism, your health, whether or not you still have any left in your system, etc. So even the same person taking the same dose twice could find it very different on different occasions. It's always best to err on the side of caution.

I never have felt even slight respiratory depression when I've taken higher doses than I usually used (100mg oral IR morphine, I used to use around 40mgs).

Again, it varies greatly. I have a high tolerance to opioids and have been using them for 16 years, but I will get significant respiratory depression from oral morphine when I have taken a dose that I don't even feel high from (another reason I don't like it, the unwanted effects outweigh any pleasant effects for me). And I'm assuming you have an opioid tolerance so you being able to take 100mg is not really relevant to someone with no tolerance, right?

The reason you didnt get as high is simply because in the hospital you received it by injection. Injecting like even just 20mg of morphine is alott stronger than id say 100mg oral, because orally only 30% absorbs ( 30% bioavailability)

It's not just that, taking it orally is just not going to get you the same high as injecting it, even if you take a much higher dose orally. Also remember our discussion about bioavailability? It means that on average around 30% gets absorbed compared to the amount absorbed when taken IV. 30% of 100mg+ is not 20mg. And even equivalent total absorption would not give you the same feeling as injecting it, since that doesn't mean it would have the same peak levels, get to your brain as fast, get metabolized in the same way, etc. (I'm NOT recommending injecting in any way of course).

I think the problem might be that you were given injected morphine in the hospital which is a very different ball game than taking it orally, even with equivalent doses. You aren't going to get there taking it orally. Anyway you can take 30-40mgs next time, the worst thing that could happen is that you'll need to puke. And it is OK to redose (5-10mg) after 1 hour if you aren't satisfied, if you take it on empty stomach (which you should do in the first place), the peak effect is felt in about 1 hrs.

^This.

Its impossible to say what is safe and what will kill but im pretty sure you will just feel bliss from 30 mg and at worst puke a little but probably not. Do realize that it can kill you though, especially and i mean it, when combined with any other CNS depressant (alcohol, opioids, benzos, etc.) so definatley dont take any in combination with the morphine.

^This.

 

[Lollerskates]

I took 35 mgs today... At first, I felt somewhat weird, like somewhat high and tired but it wasn't really euphoric. Then I started feeling relaxed like two hours later. I think the quantity was too much. I felt better with 30 mg. I won't be trying higher doses. So far the whole experience doesn't really impress me. I still have 40 mg left. I guess, one last experience.

 

[Lollerskates]

I just want to say that I never really liked drugs, and the drug culture in general. This is not really for me. I also do not really like drinking either. I will take the remaining of my bottle one day, but I will probably never take morphine again after that(unless I need it for pain). Morphine seems to have several negative health effects in a chronic use, and that's why I am going to stop. It was nice meeting you on this board tough. I will probably post one last time later.

 

[Lollerskates]

Ok so I took my remaining morphine yesterday, 40 mgs. I took 30 mgs at first, then felt pretty good for a few hours, then took 10 mgs. For some reason I started having a weird nauseous feeling like my body wanted me to regurgitate those pills just after I took them and I was feeling a bit paranoid. Then I suddenly started to feel extremely sleepy. I forced myself to stay awake but it was difficult. By the way, is it bad to sleep while high on morphine?

It was weird, because I felt kinda like crap, and was like : "I'll never take shit again", yet at the same time I was feeling a good high.

Now I don't have any morphine anymore, and hopefully I am not going to use that drug again. This drug is a bit too dangerous and apparently it causes negative health effects with frequent use.

One of my problem with drugs in general is how I always get in a state of extreme paranoia every time I take something, thinking about overdoses. This psychological state often ruins my highs and prevent me to enjoy a high because I worry too much.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

I forced myself to stay awake but it was difficult. By the way, is it bad to sleep while high on morphine?

It's not bad to sleep, people do sleep on morphine all the time, but what I guess you are really asking is are your chances of being able to get help if the respiratory depression gets too bad better if you stay awake? And/or if you were to borderline OD, would the respiratory depression get worse by going to sleep? Not that I think you were actually close to death in your situation, but that's a good (and really tough) question, there is a whole thread on that topic here: Opiate Overdose, Consciousness & Respiratory Depression

It was weird, because I felt kinda like crap, and was like : "I'll never take shit again", yet at the same time I was feeling a good high.

Yeah, oral morphine has a lot of side effects for me too, nausea is a very common one for many people.

One of my problem with drugs in general is how I always get in a state of extreme paranoia every time I take something, thinking about overdoses. This psychological state often ruins my highs and prevent me to enjoy a high because I worry too much.

Yeah, me too, it's funny, I never used to be that way but now I often seem to have irrational paranoia about drugs. I think it started after a couple scary brushes with death.

 

[King J]

IMO, if there was such a thing as pharmaceutical-grade heroin, administered by licensed professionals, this is something I would like to try. However, I am a way too scared to ever try the heroin from the streets. You basically have no idea what is in it and I would never trust that. But if it was made by legit pharmaceutical companies instead, I would give it a shot.

Your mind is already bringing you down to a bad, bad path... Geeze man, one shot of Morphine is already making you want to shoot Heroin.