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New Here....Looking to switch from Methadone to Suboxone.

Triggergrrl

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Washington State
Hello - I live in Spokane, WA and am currently a client at the Methadone clinic here. It completely sux and I am trying to find a private doctor here in Spokane to hopefully switch me to Suboxone or methadone pills - so that I can get off it! See, they stopped decreasing my dose (I was going down 10 mg/month) because I got a DWI a week ago....*snip* - I just can't see me paying that for years and years (which is what is going to happen unless I decide to tuff it out on the WD or get on Suboxone). I'm feeling pretty much screwed right now and was hoping I could get some suggestions as to how to get out of this clinic and do it on my own without having to look for the shit on the streets (methadone/suboxone). I've been chipping a bit recently on H too just outta depression most likely. Oiii - this SUX! :|
 
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Welcome! :)
Sorry you are having problems-opiates are a bitch. I have detoxed off them twice.
There are lots of forums here that can support you and help you in figuring out what to do next.
The search engine will help you locate the answers to these questions and the BLUA and Greenlighter's Guide will serve as vital tools to help you know what the site is about and what is ok and what is a no-no.
You are new and we all make mistakes. just keep trucking.
Much peace and love...................................skillz :D
 
Welcome to Bluelight Triggergrrl!

As Skillz mentioned, using the search function (which can be found in my signature) is a great and quick tool for searching Bluelight with any questions you may have :)

Oh, and Check out the NMI Social thread too! It's a great way to start talking to other new and older members %)
 
"My love is a fever..."

Hey,
I’m a greenlighter myself and went through a 10-12 year period of full time, "professional" heroin use, so I know a little bit about where you’re coming from. Matter o fact, the 1st place I ever did heroin was in Bellingham… I know, you couldn’t get much farther away from Spokane and still be in WA, but it is technically in the same state. Anyway, I got off the shit for several years and then stumbled into some oxy’s, hydrocodone HLC, and my personal fav. Dilaudid (hydromorphone). Stuck in the middle of nowhere, 200 miles from a methadone clinic, I found suboxone, and basically, it saved my ass and my life.

My impression is you are on the young side, or at least this is your 1st go around with H. IMO age means shit, but if it is your 1st time trying to get off dope or dealing with a methadone clinic, there may be some good (?) advice I can give you. 1st thing that comes to mind is your comment about how to get out of the methadone clinic. Unless you’re court ordered to go to that clinic and no other, getting out of a methadone clinic is simple: quit paying them. They may let you slide for a few days maybe even a week or two but eventually they will quit dosing you.

2nd thing that sticks out in your post is the clinics refusal to quit your titration. It’s been years and I know they have guide lines about how fast and how much you can cut your dosage, (I was more concerned with how fast and how much they’d increase my dose.) but if you’re concerned about your ability to afford 6-12 months of methadone treatment, I got bad news for you… suboxone is expensive. I don’t want to dissuade you from pursuing sub, just prepare you for reality. There may be options available to you through free clinics or pharmaceutical company subsidies, so don’t give up just yet. Anyway, getting the shit off the street is only going to be even more expensive than a prescription.

3rdly, if you’ve been chipping and still going to the methadone clinic, then you know methadone floods your opiate receptors and hangs out there for a while. Meaning you do dope while there’s any methadone still in your system, you don’t get as high, so, it makes you want to do more… but it won’t work the way you want it to and is likely pretty dangerous if you want to go on living.

The last bit of sagely advice I can offer is this: near as I can tell, the debate rages on over whether it’s harder to cold turkey H or methadone. Only time I have ever been successful going cold turkey (more or less) off of either of them has involved incarceration. Pray you don’t ever go through that!
Spokane is big enough you should have no trouble finding private doctors to prescribe suboxone. (I just googled it and found 2 doctors in Spokane and that was just 1 of 206,000 results.) Whatever you choose to do, good luck and be safe.

An afterthought: suboxone contains buprenorphine and nalaoxone. The one is only a partial opiate agonist and will never give you the high of other opiate/opioids. The other is an opiate antagonist and will not only limit the amount of bup you can absorb, but also make chipping H or any other opiate pretty much completely useless. It’s also really hard to misuse the stuff in any way. This last bit is of no concern if you’re serious about wanting to get clean.
 
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Thank you. No, this is not my first 'rodeo' but when i mentioned the clinic and asked how to get off of it, I meant to get off and not have to deal with WD's. lol. anyways - yea, that's a good question though that I don't know...is Methadone worse to WD from or Heroin? Ugh - not looking forward to this. But anyways, I thank you guys for the responses and found a few docs to call on Monday. Will continue with the clinic until I can figure it out I suppose. Anyway I look at it, it's going to be spendy and/or just have to deal with the sickness. Hey - it's Saturday - have a good one! :)
 
Welcome & i hope everything works out for you.Im going through Methadone withdrawl now , well i scored 5 , 8 Millagram Sub strips , so im currently ok.Anyhow its been like 19 days since my last dose & it seems to be getting worse!!Ive kicked Dope cold turkey a few times & it was 10 times easier than Methadone!After about 7 days it would ease up & usually by day 14 i was fine.I was on Suboxone for 7 1/2 years & it worked pretty good.I could live a normal life atleast!
 
Welcome to Bluelight!

Switching from methadone to buprenorphine is harder than vice versa; it would be best to go onto a short acting agonist for a few days after quitting methadone, so that you can begin on Suboxone with less time in acute withdrawal.
 
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