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Opioids New here! <3!! Need help to avoid withdrawal!!

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kyllandra

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I am really sorry if I posted this in the wrong section, but as many of you know one can become quite distressed when one is facing withdrawal and I need the help of as many experts that are reading this as possible. Here is my dilemma. I am a long-time user of a medication known in Sweden as citidon. I take 2 x 500/30 (acetaminophen/codeine) every six to eight hours. Believe me, I feel it if I don't take them. A mistake was made in my prescription refill process and I may not receive a new one before the pills run out. I have 10mg oxycodone time-release pills that I can take if things get real bad. I don't want to take them, but obviously I will to avoid withdrawal. I would appreciate immensely any expert on the subject of conversion who can tell me what I can do to avoid withdrawal by taking the oxy instead. I don't really want to crush them and snort them because I don't have experience on the matter and I've got shit to do today. I don't need to get high. I just want to stave off the withdrawals. Would taking 10mg of oxycodone time release every 12 hours be of use until I can get the matter of my prescription taken care of? Any help on this subject would be most appreciated!!!

Sincerely!
- Kyllandra <3
 
Large amounts of loperamide 30-40 mgs (got me off oxys back in the day wonderful substance)
Kratom (not recommended it is just like codeine)
Dxm products (its a given)
Benadryl (worth a shot)
Buprenorphine (prescription required but cured me of my oxy problem)
PSYCHEDELICS!! :D (always a good choice)
I recommend dxm products to make you not want any hydros because you will be too busy with mental stuff...
I recommend benadryl and other dph products to knock you out for a couple of days so you wont think about it.
All you need is 5 days to not use them and you should be good.

Also try loperamide first. Go out and buy yourself a bottle of generic anti-diarrhea pills and take like 15-30 everytime you feel a craving.
 
oxycodone is appx 10x as strong as codeine per mg.

This basically mean you could take 2 10 mg extended release oxycodone, take 1 and then the other 12 hours later and it would cover up most if not all of your withdrawal.

Do not snort them, it will not only be shorter in duration but oxycodone has a lower nasal bioavailability than oral, roughly 60% to 80%.

Since you are use to dosing every 6-8 hours, you could cut them up into 1/2's and chew them up to help reduce some of the time release function.
 
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Yeah you'll probably get by fine just taking 1 10mg oxy a day. 30mg of codeine is a very very small opiate habit, the withdrawals themselves really wont be that bad, but I get obviously not wanting to feel them anyway.

So yes, taking those oxy's will help. Just don't get carried away with them because all you'll do is jack up your tolerance and have to take more codeine when you get your script.
 
Just want to mention this...if you are taking 2 of these pills that contain 500 mg of acetaminophen every 6 to 8 hours, you are possibly taking as much as 4000 mg of acetaminophen a day, and at least 3000. Doing that on a consistent basis cannot be good for your liver. That much acetaminophen once and while is not so bad, but daily for what you seem to allude to being years of use is no good for you.
 
thefanod said:
Large amounts of loperamide 30-40 mgs (got me off oxys back in the day wonderful substance)
Kratom (not recommended it is just like codeine)
Dxm products (its a given)
Benadryl (worth a shot)
Buprenorphine (prescription required but cured me of my oxy problem)
PSYCHEDELICS!! :D (always a good choice)
I recommend dxm products to make you not want any hydros because you will be too busy with mental stuff...
I recommend benadryl and other dph products to knock you out for a couple of days so you wont think about it.
All you need is 5 days to not use them and you should be good.

Also try loperamide first. Go out and buy yourself a bottle of generic anti-diarrhea pills and take like 15-30 everytime you feel a craving.
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Im not sure I understand why she would do all of this rather than just take the oxys and be done with it..she only needs to hold over til the new script is ready.

To Rtrain, why would she cut them down and try to defeat the time release? She just wants to be covered so no WDs. If she just takes the extended release oxy every 12 hours she will be covered...if she leaves them as they are they will continuously release the same amount of meds (or an opiate/opioid equivalent that is_) that she normally takes throughout the day and shouldnt have any period of time that she is not covered.

OP, this should work out just fine. As Mr. Scagnattie said, just taking one of the oxy 10mg a day should do ok. I personally would just take them whole, by mouth just as you are supposed to. It will work out so that you should not have any withdrawals.

Good luck!!
 
OP, how long have you been taking that much paracetamol/acetaminophen for?
 
Thanks ALL!

missmeyet? said:
Im not sure I understand why she would do all of this rather than just take the oxys and be done with it..she only needs to hold over til the new script is ready.

To Rtrain, why would she cut them down and try to defeat the time release? She just wants to be covered so no WDs. If she just takes the extended release oxy every 12 hours she will be covered...if she leaves them as they are they will continuously release the same amount of meds (or an opiate/opioid equivalent that is_) that she normally takes throughout the day and shouldnt have any period of time that she is not covered.

OP, this should work out just fine. As Mr. Scagnattie said, just taking one of the oxy 10mg a day should do ok. I personally would just take them whole, by mouth just as you are supposed to. It will work out so that you should not have any withdrawals.

Good luck!!
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Thank you very much, Missmeyet! <3 I appreciate that feedback. Thanks to all of you! To the person who inquired of my consumption of acetaminophen; yes, I take 3000mg of acetaminophen everyday and have for the last four years. On occasion, I take 4000mg a day, but that is rare and only when the pain is severe. Otherwise, I take 3000mg or less if I can help it each day. I am well aware of the risks involved, but this is the only medication I have available to me at this point to control the fairly severe rheumatoid arthritis that I have and this is after years of trying different things. I don't take this medication recreationally and am under the care of a Doctor and have been the entire time. I also have never and will never buy my medications illegally, so I don't have access to anything else other than the oxy my husband received when his tonsils were removed, which I keep around as back-up. I am not happy about my acetaminophen consumption and on my next visit I will, in fact, endeavor to find something equivalent with less or no acetaminophen. I’m am cognizant of the effects of this drug on the liver and I’m sure my liver is too. Additionally, I don't drink or smoke, take any other drugs except for prozac and prednisolone, which I only take sometimes because it has it's own nasty side effects that I can't bare. I eat relatively healthy and exercise regularly. My problem here wasn't that I overtook my medication; it was that the doctors didn't respond as to whether they received my request and I was concerned the prescription would run out before they refilled it. This has happened in the past. Fortunately, they did refill the prescription in time and I won't have to take the oxy, but once again, I do appreciate Missmeyet’s advice very much. If needed, I'd have taken the full tablet and waited it out. I'm not going to risk breaking the thing and releasing too much into my system. I have a child to take care of and don't need to turn stupid while she's in my care. Like I said, my intention isn't to get high but to stave off the withdrawals. I went through absolute severe acute withdrawals from zolpidem, a horrendous stay at a shitty Swedish drug clinic, and two years of severe PAWS and am not ready to go through it again with the pain pills. Do you know what I mean? :D
 
30mg isn't how much I take for the entire day. I take 2 x 30mg 3 times a day. 180mg total. Is that still a very small habit? If so, this makes me very happy for the time when I decide not take this shit anymore. I will add, however, that I have severe insomnia, so any 'drawling is going to affect that and make the experience much worse. I don't sleep well on a GOOD day.
 
Your in the right place kyllandra (is that your real name? Its pretty) as 99% of people here have been through withdrawal at some point.
It sounds like your very sensible with your prescription drug use and its difficult balancing out pain relief and longterm health when your a chronic pain patient.
I just wanted to make a suggestion regarding your mention of a medication change. I used to take the same medication in similar amounts and switched to dihydrocodeine. Dihydrocodeine is around 1.5-2x as strong as codeine but importantly dihydrocodeine comes in preparations that dont contain paracetamol.
I find dihydrocodeine to have les side effects then codeine as well.
I hear you about the insomnia, I had a bad zopiclone habit and dont sleep well without them but the dihydrocodeine being a little more sedating do help...well them and the mirtazapine!lol
Btw, yeah 180mg day is a tiny habit. In conversion terms its the equivalant of 18mg of morphine (in real terms its more like 10mg of morphine), which is as I said tiny.
Its important to remember that your not addicted, addicts chase a high, your just using opiates as directed by a doctor and for their proper use...pain.
You could be classed as dependant but not addicted.
 
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hey Kyllandra I think u should be good with the 10 mg/12 hrs of Oxy ER because it's a more powerful med than you're use to with the codein but it's also time release so you won't feel it all at once like with an instant release oxy which you'd prob need every 4 hrs then. If you end up taking more of the Oxy than just to stave of w/d then it could prob make you need much more codein when u go back so limiting the oxy 10 mg ER's like u said is a very smart idea if you plan to go back to codein/acet.



Lycka Till!
 
bunge said:
Your in the right place kyllandra (is that your real name? Its pretty) as 99% of people here have been through withdrawal at some point.
It sounds like your very sensible with your prescription drug use and its difficult balancing out pain relief and longterm health when your a chronic pain patient.
I just wanted to make a suggestion regarding your mention of a medication change. I used to take the same medication in similar amounts and switched to dihydrocodeine. Dihydrocodeine is around 1.5-2x as strong as codeine but importantly dihydrocodeine comes in preparations that dont contain paracetamol.
I find dihydrocodeine to have les side effects then codeine as well.
I hear you about the insomnia, I had a bad zopiclone habit and dont sleep well without them but the dihydrocodeine being a little more sedating do help...well them and the mirtazapine!lol
Btw, yeah 180mg day is a tiny habit. In conversion terms its the equivalant of 18mg of morphine (in real terms its more like 10mg of morphine), which is as I said tiny.
Its important to remember that your not addicted, addicts chase a high, your just using opiates as directed by a doctor and for their proper use...pain.
You could be classed as dependant but not addicted.
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Hey Bunge,

Kyllandra isn't my real name. It's actually the name my brother gave my character when we used to play D&D ... back in the day ... but thanks for the compliment. I like it a lot. I wanted to get back to you and thank you for the suggestion regarding codeine. Is there a brand name that I can mention to my doctor for dihydrocodeine? This definitely sounds like something I would rather take since it would stand to reason that I could get the same or better pain relief with less medication and this would give me liver a break. As for Zopiclone, I took that too. I didn't like the taste though, so I switched back to Zolpidem and it got completely out of control. All kinds of crazy shit happened to me emotionally and physically and there are probably some intellectual deficits I have acquired as a result of that addiction as well. I became terribly terribly physically addicted and started getting "daytime withdrawals", which you may be familiar with. By the time I went to rehab, I was taking 150-180mg of Zolipem. Basically, 15-18 10mg pills every single day until my bitch Doctor cut me off and the cold-turkey withdrawals were BIZARRE. I am truly shocked that I didn’t have a big fat seizure and die. I actually wrote an account of my experience and may put it up here for people to read. It’s kind of funny and tragic at the same time. Anyway, thanks again for the suggestion. I will definitely talk to my Doctor. Yes, I would definitely say that I am dependent, but my body reacts the same way any addict does when I don’t have my medication the possibility of not getting it makes me nervous. That’s why I came here; to get help from professionals. ;)
 
Dihydrocodeine is really common so your doctor should know what it is without a brand name but a few of its many names are:Panlor, Paracodin and Paramol.
Your doctor is more then just a bitch if she cut you off while you were on that amount of zolpidem, shes negligent!.
If you had had a seizure then you might well have had a case for inappropiate, abrupt withdrawal of medication leading to bodily harm (seizure).
If zolpidem was classed as a benzodiazepine instead of a 'z-drug' then I doubt she would have dared.
I remember the next day WDs well, although because of zopiclone longer half-life (much longer then zolpidem) it was no worse then increased anxiety.
The actual WD though was rough, shakes, panic attacks, insomnia, muscle spasms, depression and my pain went off the charts.
I did think your name sounded a bit fantasy fiction but I love fantasy fiction so thats all good for me. ive never been into D&D but when it comes to book, film or console games...you cant beat a sword and sandels epic!lol
 
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