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Hammilton

Hammilton

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ALPRAZOLAM MIMIC TABLETS (ACTUALLY CONTAINING EITHER MELATONIN OR AN UNUSUAL, NON-CONTROLLED BENZODIAZEPINE) IN NORTHWEST FLORIDA
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The Florida Department of Law Enforcement (Pensacola Regional Operations Center) recently received multiple submissions of apparent Sandoz 2 milligram alprazolam tablets. The tablets were white, rectangular, imprinted with the “GG 2 4 9” logo, and came in two different weights, either 0.21 grams each (see Photo 2) or 0.38 grams each (see Photo 3). The exhibits (containing from 1 - 35 tablets) were seized by various law enforcement agencies across northwestern Florida. Analysis by GC/MS, however, indicated no alprazolam in either tablet type. The lighter tablets contained a non-controlled benzodiazepine, tentatively identified as 5-(4-chlorophenyl)-7-bromo-1,4-benzodiazepin-2-one (not confirmed; not quantitated but approximately 1 - 2 milligrams based on the TIC). The heavier tablets contained melatonin (not confirmed; not quantitated but a high loading based on the TIC). These are the first ever pharmaceutical mimic tablets submitted to the FDLE laboratory system.
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Is anyone familiar with this? When draw it with chembiodraw, azepine ring has more double bonds than it ought to, at least, AFAIK. Is this their mistake, my mistake or is that correct?

I would think it's psychoactive, but beyond that I have no idea. Is this known at all? Am I right in thinking that this is phenazepam? Do you suppose the dea just forgot to type "dihydro" in there? Could I end more sentences with question marks?
 
these are great look-alikes, very professional indeed.

you do have a lot of question marks, lol.
 
Hammilton said:
Am I right in thinking that this is phenazepam? Do you suppose the dea just forgot to type "dihydro" in there?
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Yeah I'd say the DEA just named it wrong, would be phenazepam for sure!

Pretty much the most different benzo you could get from alprazolam in terms of effects too, mimicing a short-lasting anxiolytic with a super long acting hypnotic, but I guess its cheap :\
 
Do you think that, as named, it would be active? I would imagine yes, but thats a fully aromatic ring, right? I would imagine that this might change it a lot.

Hammilton
 
The chloro moiety is also on the wrong position of the phenyl ring--a para substituent severely attenuates benzo site agonist activity. I have a feeling that the chloro is actually at the ortho position, making this phenazepam.
 
I read reports of fake xanax here in East Texas late last year as well. It sucks especially now that prices have exceeded the $2/pill mark in my neck of the woods :(

I would definitely eat one of those if i didn't know better now =(
 
It's phenazepam. I wouldn't mind eating a counterfeit xanax bar with 2mg of phenazepam in it, but if I got fucking melatonin I would be pissed.
 
Is it though? It wouldn't be hard to end up with this. Have the wrong benzophenone, (3-bromophenyl)(4-chlorophenyl)methanone instead of (3-bromophenyl)(2-chlorophenyl)methanone, and you end up with it as described (well, aside from the missing dihydro.
 
The chloro moiety is also on the wrong position of the phenyl ring--a para substituent severely attenuates benzo site agonist activity. I have a feeling that the chloro is actually at the ortho position, making this phenazepam
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Well one thing is for sure. They aren't stupid enough to put the correct formula on the net for all the 'amatuer' and not so amatuer to copy. They are just putting out a warning and correct look so cops can ID them. Do you think most cops have biochemistry degrees?

You are probably right. Use your knowledge and don't try things that look funny because they probably are.
 
Edarrin: I think you might be overestimating the DEA, thinking that they deliberately misprinted the chemical formula as part of a conspiracy to bewilder us drug geeks. The structure of phenazepam is obviously public knowledge, so there is little insentive to deliberately bury the real formula. If this were a genuinely novel compound--especially a structurally distinct novel psychedelic--then I expect that they would lie as a matter of policy, as their concern about and disproportionate hatred of psychedelics seems to far exceed any other class of drug (save perhaps weed, they really love busting pot smokers). Here, I expect that it is most likely a typo, not a cover-up. The most detailed information about drugs that the majority of agents have is simply that you point the gun at anyone using drugs.
 
so these are fake bars or what? i dont quite understand. should i be advised not to buy the bars with the double Gs and 249 on them?
 
Edarrin: I think you might be overestimating the DEA
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Possibly.

However, I think you may be underestimating the stupidity of some people. And think about it, do you really think the DEA is going to put post a recipe (for lack of a better term) on the internet? I realize one would have to have some specialized knowledge to interpret it in the form presented.

I've worked in the addiction/mental health field for about 15 years now. I've seen it all, from both sides of the equation.
 
of some people. And think about it, do you really think the DEA is going to put post a recipe (for lack of a better term) on the internet? I realize one would have to have some specialized knowledge to interpret it in the form presented.
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There is a better term, it's called a name. IUPAC IS NOT a synthetic route or recipe. All it says is what the structure is. It's no different than saying that they found phenazepam or alprazolam or whatever other drug in something. IUPAC can be obtained for just about anything- ChemBioDraw will even take it and give you a structure or a structure and give you IUPAC. Online you can find IUPAC and structures for just about everything.

Having it mis-typed doesn't accomplish ANYTHING, so there's absolutely no reason to suspect some sort of conspiracy. It'd be the stupidest conspiracy in history.
 
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