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MaxStella

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Hi everyone.

I recently had three surgeries (one planned, and simple, the second because of something they discovered during the first, and the third because they screwed up the second and had to remove something -- of which I was fortunately born with two -- I kind of didn't want to lose). This was early March. I was in a lot of pain so they put me on a variety of pain meds. Oxycodone worked wonders, and I didn't need much: just 10-15 or max -20 mg day, in divided doses. I didn't want to develop tolerance so after 2-4 days, I'd taper down quickly: 10 mg, then 5 mg the next day, then nothing for maybe 2 or so days. I've been repeating that pattern.

I love it.

The physical pain is gone but still: I love it. I've so far had no problem sticking to the above pattern. I've experienced nothing I would describe as a negative consequence of the use of oxycodone, except a mild blueness in the middle of the taper period, and the hassle of getting more oxycodone from doctors (and the time soon to be spent looking for alternative sources, since I'm currently in the US where docs are reluctant to prescribe oxy).

It helps my writing, it's fun, and I'd like to continue it for a while.

At this low dosage (it's very low, right? I've looked around here and seen stories of people taking WAY, way more), and with the periodic tapering, am I correct in assuming there's no risk to my health in continuing this for a few more months (if not longer)?

Thanks!
Max
 
Hi max

Welcome to bluelight. I wish I could tell you you're health and well being aren't in any danger but that would be a lie.
I and many other here can tell you your jumping out of the pan and into the fire. You are already mentally addicted no question there. It will only be a matter of time before you are physically addicted like myself and many others who didn't listen to warnings from people who already went threw it. Unfortunately I can tell you from personal experience and what I've seen happen to countless other people. You will be addicted. You will not be able to find oxycodone or any opiate every single day. Soon you will need it everyday not to be sick. It can and will cost you everything health,wealth,family,friends,sanity and more even your life.

i don't mean to sound harsh but I promise I'm telling you the truth. For years I thought I could do it once in a while just once a month or so. It took longer for me to get physically addicted than most and the whole time I thought yea right I'm not going end up like you people losing everything for a few pills. Well it did catch up with me and it will catch up with you. I now have to do 130 bucks worth a day just to not feel sick. I don't want to do them but it has control and will take control of anyone who plays with it.I am trying to quit now and have tried many times. I never thought it would take so much every single day just to not be sick and guess what once you get to a point you won't get high anymore no good feeling no nothing that made you love them at first. I've took more trying to get high and nope no high just raised tolerance and cost more. And if someone says yea he's just weak (I might be) you can do a little here or their n be ok. Ask them about it in a year or two maybe just a moth from now and I bet they will say something different .

sorry so long and preachy but I don't want you to make the mistake that me and so manny have I care about your well being that's why I'm telling you all of this and my thumb hurts from typing lol. Plz just quit while you can and never touch this shit again unless it's absolutely necessary from a dr for real pain . Even if dr gives it to ya think real hard do I need it . Because an addicts mind can play tricks and make anything sound reasonable as long as it gets you that pill or that opiate.

please be smarter than me
 
Wow, thanks for the moving account. And I'm so sorry to hear about the hell you've been through.

I really appreciate the lack of moralism in your tone -- not "preachy" at all: you're just telling your story out of concern for a new member.


So there's no one out there who has used opioids long-term in the way I describe? That's scary....

Hm.... Maybe I need a rethink. As a test, I'm going to make sure I can stop for a week, starting now (am at the end of a taper period, so just took a baby amount this morning: 2.5 mg.).

Thanks again, and I hope you recover. Your words have moved me.

Max
 
Awesome max happy you decided to try take a week off.

When I started I would just use once a month sometimes once every two months. Then it went to couple times a week then few days straight then everyday. So even if you can just do it once a week that's still really dangerous. When I was using once a month I stayed their for few years but when I went to weekly I was mentally addicted in just a week or two and physically addicted within 2ish months.So once a week is so dangerous (monthly is to) using once a week is so close to full blown addiction you won't see it coming.

Anyway hope I helped you a little and plz keep us updated on how stoping this week is going for you I don't judge you at all man because I did the same thing it's easy to do because at first oxycodone was my true love it fixed every problem in my life now It is every problem in my life.

Good luck Max can't wait here from you!
 
Awesome max

Happy it's going good for ya. I doubt your physically addicted yet so if anything ya going run into some cravings and depression (hope not) just stay busy and do ther fun stuff. Keep us updated
 
FatCatOpie said:
Hi max

Welcome to bluelight. I wish I could tell you you're health and well being aren't in any danger but that would be a lie.
I and many other here can tell you your jumping out of the pan and into the fire. You are already mentally addicted no question there. It will only be a matter of time before you are physically addicted like myself and many others who didn't listen to warnings from people who already went threw it. Unfortunately I can tell you from personal experience and what I've seen happen to countless other people. You will be addicted. You will not be able to find oxycodone or any opiate every single day. Soon you will need it everyday not to be sick. It can and will cost you everything health,wealth,family,friends,sanity and more even your life.

i don't mean to sound harsh but I promise I'm telling you the truth. For years I thought I could do it once in a while just once a month or so. It took longer for me to get physically addicted than most and the whole time I thought yea right I'm not going end up like you people losing everything for a few pills. Well it did catch up with me and it will catch up with you. I now have to do 130 bucks worth a day just to not feel sick. I don't want to do them but it has control and will take control of anyone who plays with it.I am trying to quit now and have tried many times. I never thought it would take so much every single day just to not be sick and guess what once you get to a point you won't get high anymore no good feeling no nothing that made you love them at first. I've took more trying to get high and nope no high just raised tolerance and cost more. And if someone says yea he's just weak (I might be) you can do a little here or their n be ok. Ask them about it in a year or two maybe just a moth from now and I bet they will say something different .

sorry so long and preachy but I don't want you to make the mistake that me and so manny have I care about your well being that's why I'm telling you all of this and my thumb hurts from typing lol. Plz just quit while you can and never touch this shit again unless it's absolutely necessary from a dr for real pain . Even if dr gives it to ya think real hard do I need it . Because an addicts mind can play tricks and make anything sound reasonable as long as it gets you that pill or that opiate.

please be smarter than me
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That's pretty accurate Max, it's an addiction that starts without bigger problems but as times goes by this will become a very hard habit to quit.

I've also experienced this very same situation, like coming out of a hospital and doing a little more than I should have and fast forward to few months later -- not to mention few years later -- you'll be totally dependent on opiates and the amount you'll need to get your okay dose will be much more than what you are using now. And when we stop, we don't only suffer physically -- we also get very depressed, full of pain, lethargic and trust me a lot of people think of suicide. I has happened to me and to tons of other users.

I know it's a pretty cozy feeling you are enjoying now, but sooner or later that will drive you to take more in quantities and more in how many times you use. And when you realize you can't be without it. Later on is much worst than now.

Like FatCatOpie said be smarter than us!! :)
 
You're on dangerous ground, but you probably already know that. I have moments where I definitely spiral into a panic because of the amount of narcotics I have to take now for pain relief. If I was chasing a high, I suspect it would be even worse. At this point, I just want pain relief - like you, I've had several surgeries recently. On top of that, I was diagnosed with 2 rare and untreatable conditions. If I had to do this past year all over again, I would be far more cautious about the amount of Oxycodone I took, because of my now sky high tolerance. I'm 100 pounds and I can take a relatively massive amount of narcotics and function just fine without the hint of a high. That's not okay. Don't go down the tempting road of chasing a feeling. You will quickly find yourself in the middle of a disaster that you can't get yourself out of. And withdrawals are nothing - NOTHING - to fool around with. Not worth the high IMO. Good luck ❤️
 
Thanks again everyone. I slipped yesterday.... It was only a baby, tiny, tiny amount: 1.25 mg. (1/4 pill of 5 mg. Percocet). But still.... My thought process was bizarre. Was thinking about how the opioid receptors work in the brain and had some notion of the importance of "asymptotic weaning": not 10 mg., then 5, then 0, but 10, then 5, then 2.5, then 1.25.... But 1.25 mg. is tiny enough! Crazy the though processes one develops. I won't take 0.625 today! So: reset the clock. Goal is none, zero, for one week starting today.

I really, really appreciate your cautions.
 
You can do it Max!

just got to watch out for that stuff the brain once addicted can justify use make it seem necessary even. Like yesterday (I'm $400 in the hole mind you) I had to use because..... Well yesterday was a fuck it day I decided try something it didn't go my way so I decided using pills would fix it so I just have less money got to watch out for that stuff but I no you can do it they keep telling me slip ups are normal so that's what I'm goin tell you lol
 
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I have a question maybe someone can help me with I am a 73 year old man who's had 3 surgeries for cancer and two surgeries for hernias in the past year-and-a-half recently I was diagnosed with epididymitis a very painful condition and was put on Percocet I'm only taking it for a short time but now that I am having less pain I am trying to stop it and having a horrible time with withdrawals I probably haven't taken more than 30 milligram in any one day 20 at once and then 10 is this normal to be having withdrawals with that little use.
 
Allan Standley said:
I have a question maybe someone can help me with I am a 73 year old man who's had 3 surgeries for cancer and two surgeries for hernias in the past year-and-a-half recently I was diagnosed with epididymitis a very painful condition and was put on Percocet I'm only taking it for a short time but now that I am having less pain I am trying to stop it and having a horrible time with withdrawals I probably haven't taken more than 30 milligram in any one day 20 at once and then 10 is this normal to be having withdrawals with that little use.
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Yea even at 30mg if you do it for few weeks withdrawal is normal. Messing with opiates always has a cost. Sorry to hear about your health hope everything starts looking up for you. Just be careful with pills sometimes like your case you need them but sometime the pain will be gone and your head will tell you it's still their just to get that pill. Opiates make your mind turn on you and it can take a while to realize that. I know my mind plays dirty with me makes me think I gotta have it this will be ok but sometimes in the mist of withdrawal I forget I can't trust myself or chose not to idk. But hope it gets better keep us updated.

max how's it goin hope your still doing good let us no
 
Thank you So much for The information it's nice to know it's not all in my head yesterday I only took 1/2 of a percocet I am hoping to not take any more but I am suffering from constipation, nausea, insomnia and dizziness. Hoping this will pass soon
 
Looking for insight into this little pill. Any ideas where I can find useful info, or people willing to share their knowledge? Like how to manage medication when they are needed? Mentally, I'm super scared of addiction, but need medication for post operative cancer related issues. Doctors say one thing, or people get talking like an na meeting. I need real knowledge.
 
Hi Trunky1978 The best advice I can give you about opiates is to never use more than you absolutely need and to remember that the doctors can over prescribe this medication you will be tempted to take the maximum dose which is the mistake I made right now I am in the process of trying to get clean and going through nasty withdrawal symptoms My Hope Is that you won't make the same mistake I did good luck to you
 
:\ I have less than 2 cents to offer, as many have scoffed at my opinion. However, in reading this thread, I am even more convinced with my (personal) theory.

I've had PAIN since a near fatal accident in HS. I suffer also from stage 4 endometriosis, and have a surgically altered stomach pouch. I've had multiple surgeries to remove disease, followed by Lupron (chemo). Other than short term pain meds, I always refused anything stronger than Darvocet. No, it didn't remove my pain, but it gave enough relief for me to function. When it was taken off the market in 2010, I believe...I was left to wander in the wilderness of pain.

I had been offered many different big gun meds over the years (medically justified). I refused them after negative SEs. In hindsight, I'm happy I did refuse the likes of Fentanyl. I saw right away that withdrawal ensued before the 48 hour change out (2005-06). The suffering outweighed the brief relief.

Fast forward to 2013 at age 52...I just couldn't cope with the pain any more. I sought out specialists who could address the root of the pain. There were 8 or 9 across 3 states. Not ONE of them was willing to touch me. They were quick to tell me that all that could be done had been done (basically deal with it). They ALL told me to seek pain management. I didn't want to, but WTF else was I supposed to do, other than hit the EXIT...end my miserable life.

I enrolled in PM in early 2014. It has been nothing more than a SCREAM of HORROR! I was trialed on MS Contin, Fentanyl and Oxycodone before I enlisted my GP for genetic test for metabolism of meds. Remember, the absorption is hindered by my stomach pouch, too. I'll never forget the first time I took Oxycodone IR in 2014...Jeez, I'm HEALED and HAPPY! I am such a skeptic that I quickly realized "Oh, shit that wears off, leaving rebound pain and feelings of anger/aggression.

I have no doubt that Oxycodone (I've not tried OxyContin) is meant to be addictive. Naïve people like me think "Well, a pain specialist prescribed this. Surely he knows what he's doing". WRONG!!! I'm somewhat thankful I couldn't afford the ER form. I continue to see this specialist because I don't want to terminate my contract until I have a better plan. I won't fall prey to this stuff for a couple of hours relief, only to be eventually cut off. My doctor is a plane ticket away from his homeland, where he already spends several months out of the year. What then?

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As I type this post, the acute pelvic/rectal/vaginal pain is pulsing like being violated perhaps with a serrated bread knife. My bowels and bladder are choked by adhesions that no surgeon will touch. I'm taking Linzess 290 and daily enemas just to avoid another bowel obstruction. I won't bore you with the issues in my cervical/lumbar spine or the blood filled tumors attached to my L4/5 S1. I have little to no hope.
 
Hi everyone. Allan and DixiChik: Sounds like you've both been through hell. I'm so sorry. Makes my minor post-surgical pain seem like an afternoon hangnail.

Update: I've kept to my goals of oxy use. But I'll report back in a few weeks or so with more info.

Thanks again, and good luck to those of you who are really suffering (I no longer am, but who knows what can go wrong in the future...).
 
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