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same as hellish sites with it, does plugging make it any different.I didn't get much of a comedown from 6-APB, didn't hammer it though. It did give me the shits for about 4 days, howeverKinda put me off doing it again!
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knock
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I did a lot of reading about 4-FA and 3-FA (yes, 3-FA not 4-FMA) before getting some, as I had seen the posts suggesting neurotoxicity. My conclusion was it probably isn't as dangerous as some people were making out. I suggest anyone interested does their own research, though, as I have to admit I was actively looking for posts that made it out to be OK! They came from respected members though...
(no, not rs69). I mean those fuckers who seem to know neurochemistry.Anyway, they're both pretty enjoyable. I didn't read anything about 4-FMA to make me want to try it.
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I did a lot of reading about 4-FA and 3-FA (yes, 3-FA not 4-FMA) before getting some, as I had seen the posts suggesting neurotoxicity. My conclusion was it probably isn't as dangerous as some people were making out. I suggest anyone interested does their own research, though, as I have to admit I was actively looking for posts that made it out to be OK! They came from respected members though...
Anyway, they're both pretty enjoyable. I didn't read anything about 4-FMA to make me want to try it.
Aha so it's 3-fa and 4-fa. Thanks for the correction . They look interesting enough to make me want to have a dabble sometime though wouldn't want to be abusing them heavily given the health debate.
Mental Kenny
Bluelighter
I know it shouldn't be taken as a scientific statement, but I've caned tons of 4-FA, started in 2008 and literally did it daily for months at a time, and I didn't feel it was that toxic, felt miles more benign than mephedrone or methylone, much much better on the body and mind.
2-FA is lovely too, first time I tried it I didn't enjoy, but it was last winter and I had to shovel snow and I stopped feeling my hands and feet and panicked a bit. Did a gram last month before coming to this god forsaken place and it was very much enjoyable, very functional.
knock
Bluelighter
Don't get me wrong, 4-FMA exists, and maybe there are warnings about it, I just haven't looked into it.
Yeah I've abused all sorts of nasties to great excess in the past with no horrible consequences but I think my brain functioned much better before a 3 year MDMA journey into oblivion combined with heroic quantities of amphetamines (having never done more that a bit of puff and the the occasional dabble with speed previously) though it enabled me to socialize for the first time in my life which has made me much more socially confident and easygoing. It's all swings and roundabouts. I'm certainly more rounded and self aware in a way that I never was before. Though when I look at some of my foibles of which I'm all to painfully aware, I look back to my days of blissful ignorance and naivity. I used to think I was normal until I saw the light. God was I deluded
Have done some ethylphenidate so head's in analytic mode but it's all good EDIT - My point was that we can abuse stuff to excess and for the most part pretty much get away without hideous consequences but not sure it relates much to your post.
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Mental Kenny
Bluelighter
Yeah I've abused all sorts of nasties to great excess in the past with no horrible consequences but I think my brain functioned much better before a 3 year MDMA journey into oblivion combined with heroic quantities of amphetamines (having never done more that a bit of puff and the the occasional dabble with speed previously) though it enabled me to socialize for the first time in my life which has made me much more socially confident and easygoing. It's all swings and roundabouts. I'm certainly more rounded and self aware in a way that I never was before. Though when I look at some of my foibles of which I'm all to painfully aware, I look back to my days of blissful ignorance and naivity. I used to think I was normal until I saw the light. God was I deluded
EDIT - My point was that we can abuse stuff to excess and for the most part pretty much get away without hideous consequences but not sure it relates much to your post.
MDMA fucked me up good too, emotionally it made a mess, speed didn't help either. 4-FA to me feels much milder, never had bad experiences on it and the comedowns are easily taken care of with some kratom and etizolam.
Mental Kenny
Bluelighter
It is in the Uk
As Kenny says, it's legal in the UK. That's not the type of info you need to request by PM. Unless thats an attempt at covert sourcing, in which case forget about it. My apologies if that's not the case, but in light of your last post it certainly could be construed as such.
Though I really think you and this Google bloke should go for a pint together. You'll find he's a nice enough geezer and full of very useful info.
Double-posting here, so infract me please, mods.
All I want to know is are there any AH-7921 fans out there? I plugged some a short while ago and I'm feeling rther pleasant. Not full-on opioid euphoria by any means, but a definite mood lift muscle relaxation total contentment with my surroundings and a slight stimulation / clarity of thought.
This was plugged at a dose of around 60mg. Don't know if it's a batch thing, but the stuff I had certainly wasn't rough on the arse at all, though I used 9ml water to dilute it, which may have been a factor.
Certainly better than the DHC last night.
All I want to know is are there any AH-7921 fans out there? I plugged some a short while ago and I'm feeling rther pleasant. Not full-on opioid euphoria by any means, but a definite mood lift muscle relaxation total contentment with my surroundings and a slight stimulation / clarity of thought.
This was plugged at a dose of around 60mg. Don't know if it's a batch thing, but the stuff I had certainly wasn't rough on the arse at all, though I used 9ml water to dilute it, which may have been a factor.
Certainly better than the DHC last night.
knock
Bluelighter
I wonder how that happened?
I don't get much at all from DHC these days, though I used to love it. Abusing heroin, oxy, bupe and morphine over the years has made it more annoying than anything.
It's hard for me to compare DHC as I felt it ten years ago and DHC now so I couldn't really say, but I'd compare this to low-dose bupe with some of the more positive aspects of tramadol.
The one dose I've had feels better than smoking three bags of UK 'smack', put it that way.
As for toxicity etcetra, remember I'm merely a clown, not a scientist. I wouldn't know. Though I recommend those concerned about such issues read that link.
It's hard for me to compare DHC as I felt it ten years ago and DHC now so I couldn't really say, but I'd compare this to low-dose bupe with some of the more positive aspects of tramadol.
The one dose I've had feels better than smoking three bags of UK 'smack', put it that way.
As for toxicity etcetra, remember I'm merely a clown, not a scientist. I wouldn't know. Though I recommend those concerned about such issues read that link.
knock
Bluelighter
I think he's just talking about the corrosive stingy burny aspect. I wouldn't know either though. I just know it does hurt!