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Never tried H but hoping to pretend like I do it

this thread is depressing. do yourself a favor and dont do dope. its not worth it.
 
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I've been doing all this on my own and its hard for me to let anyone close to know about it to help me out. I want to do it cause i have always wanted to try it, its the one drug thats always gotten my attention and i have this crazy nagging urge to try it. She knows a lot of people in the area and I would really like to build up a good connection. Forget the I.V. i wont mess with it for now, I don't think I'm above all the destruction its caused for other people.
 
are you afraid of some chick and what she thinks of you? just tell her you didn't want to seem like a narc so you acted like a junkie to cop some heroin. youre new and you wanted to try it, if she doesn't get it then shes a cunt and you shouldn't care what cunts think
 
It seems like you want to act like you do it so that you don't get ripped off. Like if somebody knows that you don't know how strong dope should be, they may take advantage of you by cutting it more, or overcharging.
Am I right? It seems like the only sensible (and I use that word lightly) reason to pretend to have experience with H already.
 
I havent been scared thus far, like going out there looking for it, meeting the random people. Its just that I want to try H, and I honestly will do what it takes to finally try it. To me it seems like she's only getting stuff because she knows that I'll test it for her and be able to make her alot, I dont want to ruin this by saying I'm a noob and have never tried it.
 
Tommyboy723 said:
It seems like you want to act like you do it so that you don't get ripped off. Like if somebody knows that you don't know how strong dope should be, they may take advantage of you by cutting it more, or overcharging.
Am I right? It seems like the only sensible (and I use that word lightly) reason to pretend to have experience with H already.
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Exactly why Im doing what Im doing
 
Well it takes some time and experience to be able to do a tester, and know if its good.

You can however tell if it sucks without experience.

So sniff a quarter bag, and think "does this feel kinda like 10-15mgs of oxy?" If it does, your in the ballpark of what should be nice dope. If you cant tell after 20mins, then do another quarter, and figure if thats like 20-30mg oxy.
Repeat if needed, but allow some time in between.
When sniffing H, I still get energy at first which may lead to doing more quicker. But you may not realize that a nod is coming later, and you can nod really hard if aren't careful.
 
Tommyboy723 said:
Well it takes some time and experience to be able to do a tester, and know if its good.

You can however tell if it sucks without experience.

So sniff a quarter bag, and think "does this feel kinda like 10-15mgs of oxy?" If it does, your in the ballpark of what should be nice dope. If you cant tell after 20mins, then do another quarter, and figure if thats like 20-30mg oxy.
Repeat if needed, but allow some time in between.
When sniffing H, I still get energy at first which may lead to doing more quicker. But you may not realize that a nod is coming later, and you can nod really hard if aren't careful.
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Thank you thats what Ill do except Ill only do a little at first and if feels kinda like a low dose of oxys ill stop it and say its good. And from there im guessing it might escalate in strength so ill be prepared
 
Also, you might wanna pull a "i'm looking for a new connect, so if its good you will get good business from me, if its bad i'll stick with my old connect".
 
lol thats what I told her, I said my other connects being shitty lately so I'm looking for a new one thats why I have been walking around, and it was almost too good too be true she was nice and was like I got everything you need and you can test the stuff out for me before hand, and we went back to her place for a while and I met her mom and everything.
 
First.. You're in Detroit and you're having a hard time finding H? Hmmm... If you want good H, the best way to get it is to hit the street and bend some corners.. That will score you the best stuff until you get a solid phone connect, but it's also very dangerous. Heroin is a dangerous game to play.

Pretending that you know what you're talking about will certainly help though. H dealers love to take advantage of people with little experience.

However, I do NOT recommend trying to be a "tester". Not only will you fuck up this person's batch, but you could end up killing yourself.

In my experience, being a tester involves sitting down with your dealer while they cut their product, and testing out little bits at a time. Although it's usually done by injection, I know some people who would let people try snorting it as well. But this usually involves doing a LOT of dope, and if you don't have the tolerance this person is expecting you to have, the first toot could be too strong and end up killing you.

Even the best outcome involves you telling her it's strong enough, and she quits cutting and bags it up, and then her customers get incredibly pissed off when they realize how weak it is.

So I don't recommend testing, not at all.. But yeah, learning the lingo isn't bad. Although telling her you're dope sick might not work the best.. A whole lot of stuff goes along with that. For starters, if you're sick and not begging and bugging the shit out of her, that right there can get suspicious. Also, you're gonna need to look sick. You can't really hide being dope sick, it's always pretty obvious.

And if you told her on this first day that you're sick, and she doesn't have dope for a few days, you might need a story prepared about how you made it through the past couple of days.

Either way, be careful, please. If you have an addictive personality, be extra careful. I finally quit heroin after a 5 year IV addiction that nearly killed me several times. Heroin isn't a drug, it's a lifestyle choice.
 
digital_phreedom said:
So I don't recommend testing, not at all.. But yeah, learning the lingo isn't bad. Although telling her you're dope sick might not work the best.. A whole lot of stuff goes along with that. For starters, if you're sick and not begging and bugging the shit out of her, that right there can get suspicious. Also, you're gonna need to look sick. You can't really hide being dope sick, it's always pretty obvious.
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Agreed. You can't "act" being dope sick. You'd be craving like a son of a bitch also, asking over and over when her connect is going to come through with the shit. When your dope sick, you can tell by just looking at the person. You'd "look" sick, which you can't fake. Almost like you have the flu, which is what it feels like. Your just looking for your medicine.
 
I called her twice since then asking and she was like I'm doing everything I can to get it (she's buying a huge amount). In the meantime i got a bunch of percs from her to help me through the wd's. When I first met her my eyes where all baggy and I looked like complete shit from trying some bunk dope before which made me really ill. This is my first real legit phone connect for harder stuff so I'am trying to not mess it up, therefore I think ill just tell her when she gets it that I'm not truly experienced at all to be her tester because I dont want to be responsible for screwing her business up although I really thought it would be easiesr to do until I posted. She said she had other people to test so I guess ill be fine.

Also I go to wayne state so I never had exposure to the suburbs where everything goes on more openly.

I did have an addictive personalty somewhat with weed but I cut that out now. But I feel anyone could cease to exist tomorrow out of nowhere and I don't want to go out without knowing what it feels like.
 
undertoker said:
I've been doing all this on my own and its hard for me to let anyone close to know about it to help me out. I want to do it cause i have always wanted to try it, its the one drug thats always gotten my attention and i have this crazy nagging urge to try it. She knows a lot of people in the area and I would really like to build up a good connection. Forget the I.V. i wont mess with it for now, I don't think I'm above all the destruction its caused for other people.
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I am sorry to say, opiates in general have gotten a lot of our attentions. Best thing for you is forget this craziness and get on with your life.

Best
 
Well you gotta do what you gotta do I guess..

Another thing I'd like to add though.. If you really do want a good hookup for H, I'm not saying to ditch this girl, but keep looking.. In my experience all the best heroin dealers never run out of dope. Not for longer than an hour or two at least. Especially in a big city. Time is money, and if they run out of dope for more than an hour they start losing clients.. So if it's taking this girl several days to get dope, I'm not saying it necessarily means she's bullshitting you, but it definitely raises a red flag in my mind.
 
Pchild said:
I am sorry to say, opiates in general have gotten a lot of our attentions. Best thing for you is forget this craziness and get on with your life.

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So even having it under my belt as a life experience is a bad idea. Ive heard about chippers who can occasionally do it and I feel like I would be able to do that. I mean i've had oxy's and never got addicted and someone in this thread even said most people say oxy's are more euphoric than h.
 
digital_phreedom said:
Well you gotta do what you gotta do I guess..

Another thing I'd like to add though.. If you really do want a good hookup for H, I'm not saying to ditch this girl, but keep looking.. In my experience all the best heroin dealers never run out of dope. Not for longer than an hour or two at least. Especially in a big city. Time is money, and if they run out of dope for more than an hour they start losing clients.. So if it's taking this girl several days to get dope, I'm not saying it necessarily means she's bullshitting you, but it definitely raises a red flag in my mind.
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Thats exactly what crossed my mind because she has a ton of perc's and she's trying to get rid of those first I think so she's hoping I might buy a bunch of those. But if she doesn't call back I'll take a break for a while and then keep looking because in theory she really should have easy immediate access to it. She said she went down to the place to get a couple small packs for me but they didn't have any so idk. Ill def post what happens in the next few days.
 
undertoker said:
So even having it under my belt as a life experience is a bad idea. Ive heard about chippers who can occasionally do it and I feel like I would be able to do that. I mean i've had oxy's and never got addicted and someone in this thread even said most people say oxy's are more euphoric than h.
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Well I was just like you, 10 years ago! I thought I could chip, no problem. The real problem is addiction comes on real sneaky like. Hard to explain, but before long, your like sucked in.

I'll bet if you ask most here, if they started out wanting to chip, they would say yes. Sounds good on paper, but in the real world it's not that easy.

As far as life experience, I'll answer it this way. I have a bunch of life experience. But being addicted to opiates is one that I could surely do without. I see nothing in the future that it will every help me with. It's caused me more pain and misery than ANYTHING in my entire life.

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Yeah, I don't think anyone plans on becoming a heroin addict.. To your credit though, I won't lie.. I do know a FEW people who use heroin only rarely.. But I mean a FEW.. Of the hundreds of people I've personally met who use heroin, I can remember only two that only did it occasionally. The rest either didn't like it and preferred uppers, or got completely and hopelessly addicted to it - losing jobs, friends, family, and sometimes eventually their life.

I tried heroin because I always viewed shooting heroin as the king of all drug experiences. My intentions were entirely to try shooting it one time, to see what it was like, and move on with my life.

I'll never forget the moment I shot it the first time.. As soon as the rush hit me, I remember the EXACT thought that popped into my head... "Fuck.. I'm gonna be doing this for a long time."

This site is about harm reduction, so I'm not trying to chastise you, or anything else. All I can do is impart my limited knowledge and experience, and wish you the best.
 
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