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Never IVd before. Is IVing morphine sulfate even worth it?

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chris2512

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I've had no dependence on opiates for almost two years now. During that time, I've taken some Xanax, oxys, Sub, Fentanyl, and maybe a little heart medication (the last one by mistake, of course LOL). I add that because I'm not a street addict and don't want to become one. So, until they start prescribing heroin in my doctor's office or in the doctor's office of one of my close relatives, I'm SOL. (Right now, I can't talk myself out of my moral dilemma... me supporting how poorly drug gangs play together and, as a result, contributing to the shooting and killing of OTHER innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people so that I can shut my friggin' head up and get high).

That's why all I have right now are these blue morphine sulfate pills 15mg (ER). Naively, I crushed and swallowed a few and, as you can guess, was MAJORLY disappointed. Hell! I felt better than that after my first 10mg of Vicodin years ago. I tried plugging... was not impressed.

So, now I suspect that the only way to begin to get any BA is by iv'ing them. BUT, I don't want to start getting into the needle for worthless shit!

I'm finding myself against a brick wall. The last few times that I've taken Oxy, I've been disappointed. Other than for my nose itching off, a dry mouth, a LITTLE bit of energy, and lots of constipation, it's been pretty pointless. Back in the day, before I took them to keep from getting sick, I used to mix them with hydrocodone, maybe that was the difference. I don't know. But, I know that I certainly don't have any tolerance after all this time, so that can't be the problem. Even Sub doesn't do anything but make me nausiated (that's why I still have a boatload of that!).

Damn... didn't mean to turn this into a novel. Sorry. Anyway...

MY QUESTION IS: Is there any point AT ALL in iv'ing this morphine sulfate stuff? If yes, please keep me from killing myself... I will be alone but don't want to shoot some useless amount. All the same, keep in mind that my technique will not be flawless either.
 
I'm quite tired so all I read is "MY QUESTION IS: Is there any point AT ALL in iv'ing this morphine sulfate stuff? If yes, please keep me from killing myself... I will be alone but don't want to shoot some useless amount. All the same, keep in mind that my technique will not be flawless either."

IVing Morphine is GREAT. You will not be disappointed, even at very low doses. HOWEVER, I would NOT recommend IV-ing pills. IF you're really interested, do your best to find some Morphine Sulfate which is in a liquid form, designed for injecting. Even when you crush up pills really well, a lot of the binders and fillers from a pill gets used as well, which is really bad for your body and veins, and can give you infections and poisoning. However, I know that If you REALLY want to IV it, you'll do it anyway.

So in this case, Perform a Cold Water Extraction on the pills. I'm honestly not sure how much of the binders and fill this will remove (not sure about their solubility), but it can't hurt. So, crush up 2 pills really well, then add them to about 5mL of warm water (30-40 degrees). Then allow to cool to room temperature, and pour through a coffee filter. Throw away the crap that's left in the filter, and proceed to suck it up with a syringe and shoot away to sweet oblivion!

REMEMBER THE DOSAGES THOUGH.
If you use exactly 5mL for the extraction, then the liquid you're left with is going to be 30mg/5mL (probably a bit less). For a starting dose, I would say 15mg is okay. Some may say it's excessive, but it's far from likely to kill you. Take a bit less if you're really uneasy about it. So, you'll want to suck up 2.5mL of the solution. It doesn't have to be EXACT, but as a precaution I wouldn't go over. Then, tie a belt around your bicep TIGHT (this isn't necessary if your veins are already very obvious). Squeeze your hands into a fist to get the blood pumping and your veins exposed. Then find a nice big blue one anywhere between inner elbow and wrist, insert it (has to be quite deep) in and shoot NOTE: do a TINY bit at first. Like .1 of a mL. This is so you know you've hit a vein. IF you've missed, your skin will actually bubble and you won't feel anything. Now, when you know you've hit a vein, DON'T pump it all in at once. Do about 1mL of it slowly, and see how you feel. You'll experience a strong head rush, and may get dizzy and feel like you need to sit/Lie down. If the sensation is too strong, take the needle out. If you feel like you can go a little bit further than what you're currently feeling, pump in the rest, remove the needle, and begin feeling like you're in heaven!

Best of Luck, and remember "You can always do more, but you can never do less!"
Jimmy :)
 
Where exactly in the world are you? @blinkyblink.

I must say I have never seen anybody recommend doing a CWE to inject pills. For god's sake get a micron filter. If not able to get one you are much better off using cotton and/or a cigarette filter. Dont dont be doing a CWE with a coffee filter to inject! :!

As he said, injecting pills are dangerous. CWE with a coffee filter is just plain stupid. Filtering with cotton or something similar is better but carries it's many risks (more filler/binder, cotton fever). The only way to be truly confident is with a micron filter. Even then, nobody would recommend it!
 
"However, I know that If you REALLY want to IV it, you'll do it anyway. "
That is just the way I do it. You'd actually be better performing several CWE's and filtrations, but in the end, you're injecting yourself, it's dangerous in itself, so meh. From the way it sounds, it seems as if OP has a few spare pills, and is looking for a bit of a rush, it's doubtful he'll be regularly IVing, and if he is, I'm sure he'll (hopefully) be able to have access to liquid morphine. A CWE WILL remove nearly all binders and fillers, and if there's no other active ingredients, it's not hugely damaging. I've used this method several times when I can't get access to liquid morphine, and it goes alright. If you cool the solution before you filter, that's even better. I find you lose too much morphine when using a cottonball, I end up losing roughly 30%. But as I've said several times, I do not recommend IVing pills at all. You should really convert to freebase and smoke the bitch ^^
 
Cornishman said:
Here's the guide you need. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/204877-Safe-prep-technique-for-wax-sustained-release-tablets?
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Thanks for the link, Cornishman. I did get some reliable extraction instructions (much the same as these) but was really excited to read that the CWE method could be used, just seems so much easier, tho never bothered with it when I was eating vicodin. Fortunately for my body, I'm not so flippant when it comes to sticking something in me via a needle ... and so goes the reason for this post.
 
blinkybill said:
IVing Morphine is GREAT. You will not be disappointed, even at very low doses. HOWEVER, I would NOT recommend IV-ing pills... However, I know that If you REALLY want to IV it, you'll do it anyway.

Yeah, you're probably right on this. Thanks for the dosing info. and all the input. Oh BTW... I'm not a guy. But, I'm assuming that your instructions can still apply. ;)
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No, injecting morphine is definitely not worth it. The risks of overdose, complications, and addiction are NOT worth the temporary high.

If you don't care about the future and solely care about feeling pleasant right now, then please please use a micron filter and proper injection technique. And please do not inject opioids alone, especially if it's your first time. If you OD there will be no one there to call an ambulance and save you.
 
Well it's not worth the shit that comes with IV drug addiction that's for sure. Morphine is just as addictive as heroin is for all intensive purposes and the only difference between them in terms of a high is the faster rush heroin causes. Or so Ive been told as Ive never bothered with heroin though i do love my morphine and dilaudid.

I would go as far as saying that 90% of people who start out just chipping along and using a few times a week eventually end up hooked. Even i myself once uttered the words I'll only shoot up now and again and stick to snorting my dilly and popping my morphine. Besides a month or 2 of staying off i have been IVing for about 3 years now drugs of choice being morphine and dilaudid. Morphine packs a rather nice warm rush though it's not as fast as what you get from dilaudid but it lasts alot longer.

If you absolutely have to find out if your one of the lucky few who can only do this every now and then you should use a micron filter and start out with no more then 15mg's of morphine.
 
IV'ing morphine sulphate is definietely worth it. IV'ing 15mg MSContins is definitely not worth it.

Try MSIR, or if you must boot MSContin, don't mess around with multiple pills to make a dose. You need at least a 30mg if not a 60mg MScontin to get a nice buzz.
 
No, iv'ing a dose or two of ER morphine is definitely NOT worth getting started on a road of IV drug use, tolerance, withdrawal, etc. etc. No where even close.

Check out the mega thread in OD and plug those bad boys to get the most out of them and thank your lucky stars that you made the right choice!
 
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