Do drugs such as neurontin and lyrica cause the same physical dependency as benzos? I have heard conflicting information about this. Could it be that lyrica does but neurontin does not? Woulden't all drugs that work on GABA create physical dependency?
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neurontin, lyrica, benzo's and dependency
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johanneschimpo
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its not the same as benzos, but they can cause some kind of dependency. and yeah, this is more true for lyrica than neurontin, hence the schedule V rating (lyrica; neurontin has none)
johanneschimpo
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Theres a lot of people in this forum who could answer that but none of them seem to be around
you could maybe try searching, I seem to remember something, check the archive or maybe even check Other Drugs
jasoncrest
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I am almost sure that Neurontin/Gabapentin doesn't cause addiction or withdrawals symptoms, while Lyrica/Pregabalin does...
t4exanadu
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I took Gabapentin for just under 2 years at 1200mg a day. Upon cessation I experienced no withdrawal effects whatsoever. It's a shame I can't say the same for paroxetine.
t4exanadu
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"Pregabalin is not known to be active at receptor sites associated with drugs of abuse" (Pfizer's prescribing information). Some people however abuse Gabapentin which really perplexes me, because in my experience it does produce any pleasurable effects (unless you get a kick out of dizziness and sedation). Apparently, according to anecdotal reports it induces euphoria in some people. This seems to be the reason why Pregabalin has been scheduled.
This is straight from the horse's mouth as it were: http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/fed_regs/rules/2005/fr0728.htm
johanneschimpo
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bharper said:
I second that. What doses people take w/o combining with opiates/benzos/etc, which seems to be the most common use I hear of it.
jasoncrest
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bharper said:
It is often compared to XTC or GHB...
From my experience, it's only slightly recreational... A bit like benzos, but without the relaxed and chilled out feeling...
It's also a bit like alcohol, without the physical effects, only the clouded mind...
I think 600mg Lyrica is a good starting dose for recreational effects (take less than that if you already take benzos, opiates, or any other CNS depressants)
johanneschimpo
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^ water and alcohol are similar too. but only one of them gets you drunk.
dubmachine
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neurontin+alcohol is a recreational combo, in that it makes one extra chatty and feel-good-y, but not in an amphetamine-like way. Heightened disinhibition is what I'm saying. If you take it regularly, or by itself, you're not likely to achieve any rec. effects.
I've read anectdotal accounts, and have experienced this myself, that there are withdrawals with Neurontin. Additionally, I would think there'd be some sort of seizure threshold issues upon discontinuation.
I wouldn't say WDs would be anywhere near Benzo WDs thoughdjredshift
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Neurontin does not cause addiction but you can't just stop taking it. It is an anti-seizure medication and was marketed by pfizer pharmaceutical for many off-label uses. It is actually less effective than a placebo for anxiety and bipolar. If you suddenly stop taking it you can have a seizure. It is also a very nasty drug and intolerable by most people, causing unpleasant thoughts to say the least. Many have committed suicide. I took this drug for nearly 6 months and it wrecked my brain. I was too dumb to do anything. Neurontin is garbage do not take it. There has been a federal lawsuit against pfizer for its off-label marketing. People have died but doctors have gotten rich. Evil stuff, this chemical should never have seen the light of day.
