I think everyone occasionally gets negative thoughts when they're tripping. I'm sort of depressed and critical of myself for some reason, but I've noticed when I get negative thoughts about myself when tripping, I sort of have to brush it off and kick it out of my thoughts to avoid thinking about it more. If I elaborate on something I don't like about myself I feel as if that could turn into a bad trip. Does anyone else have that? Like you almost have to battle away a negative thought once in a while? I probably have like social anxiety or something, but I just feel like I've always been good at hiding it or pushing away the negative aspects of a trip. Any feedback would be appreciated, I'm just seeing if anyone has felt similar.
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Negative Thoughts on LSD/Shrooms
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Thomas Davie
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Oddly I've never had negative thoughts when tripping on mushrooms, but I do have negative thoughts all the time on weed. I have had 2-3 uncomfortable moments on 100+ shroom trips, but that's either because I was deeper/higher than I had intended or because I wasn't properly prepared (hadn't taken the dogs for a walk or peaking much sooner than I expected and thus at an inappropriate moment). I have so far brushed these away (like you suggest), and I try to remind myself of the temporary nature of what's causing me difficulty; I can take the dogs for a walk, and the pizza delivery person will eventually leave. In other words, either the situation will resolve itself or I can make it change. Mildly depressed, and was prescribed Paxil and Celexa; the the former once and the latter never. Used to take Alprazolam 2-5 times a day for 10 years and stopped cold when I started using medical weed.
Mushrooms make me realize that there are still novel experiences to be had and things of beauty to be seen. I guess I find mushrooms very anti-depressant
Deinonychus
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^^ Yeah, it seems to really vary by person.
As for myself, I don't get negative thoughts on psychedelics. And there's a lot of stuff I could be negative about regarding myself and my position in life right now: unemployed heroin junkie living with one of my parents, existing at the moment without the stability and love provided by a girlfriend. But paradoxically when I think about these things on psychedelics I am actually *more* dispassionate about them than when I am sober. In other words when sober thinking about this stuff can indeed feel unpleasant, but when tripping it seems I can look at things objectively, letting me examine negative aspects of my personality or the situation I'm in right now in life without being upset about them. This is useful, because instead of getting caught up in the emotional reaction to negative things I can instead use a much more rational approach.
That said there are many people for whom psychedelics can induce negative thoughts, and concentrating on those things or getting caught in a thought-loop pertaining to them would naturally be very unpleasant. It all depends on the individual.
As for myself, I don't get negative thoughts on psychedelics. And there's a lot of stuff I could be negative about regarding myself and my position in life right now: unemployed heroin junkie living with one of my parents, existing at the moment without the stability and love provided by a girlfriend. But paradoxically when I think about these things on psychedelics I am actually *more* dispassionate about them than when I am sober. In other words when sober thinking about this stuff can indeed feel unpleasant, but when tripping it seems I can look at things objectively, letting me examine negative aspects of my personality or the situation I'm in right now in life without being upset about them. This is useful, because instead of getting caught up in the emotional reaction to negative things I can instead use a much more rational approach.
That said there are many people for whom psychedelics can induce negative thoughts, and concentrating on those things or getting caught in a thought-loop pertaining to them would naturally be very unpleasant. It all depends on the individual.
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i've never really had a bad bad trip on psychedelics, the one time i started to get off on a bad tangent (while on ketamine+lsd, i do not recommend this combo) my friend who i was tripping with rolled up a fat joint and got me to smoke it and i chilled out again. smoke some bud and try to get distracted with something else (it helps if other people are around). if you really feel like you're in over your head you can abort with a dose of a benzo.
forgoodnesssakes
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http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_faq.shtml A very good place to start, also lookup articles and experiences about the importance of SET & SETTING all over Erowid.org, your greatest resource for a question like this, although you will most likely get tons of good feedback here, and it is a good place to start.
Otherwise meditation, breathing exercises, exercise, thinking changes, lifestyle changes, maybe something like Rhodiola, and really getting a handle and probably overcoming your depression regardless of psychedelic use would be your best bet, be careful with mental issues and psychedelics my friend.
Hehe, love when people think benzo's abort a trip, they definitely kill the panic that's for sure, but for me personally while I was tweaking my brains out on fungus to point of being taken to the ER, I was given a hefty dose of a shot of Ativan, and oh boy, down the rabbit hole we went HAHAHA, let me just say as soon as they stuck the needle in my arm I swear I experienced that scene from the Matrix where Neo turns into 'liquid metal' except instead of being propelled into the Matrix I popped out way above The French Alps and was soaring for a little bit before I returned to the hospital bed to witness the ambulance EMT'S hanging out at a bed a few feet from me, except they had their face painted like clowns wearing jester hats throwing me shit eating grins, it was a bit much let me tell you, I don't think I would have peaked that hard without that IM shot of Ativan let me tell you...
oh ya and when my primary Doc showed up to check me out he was very concerned, but was still smiling at me
, as I had basically a drug from all the major classes heavily present in my system, except for the mushrooms of course which they don't measure in the blood routinely, (why I was admitted is an even longer story my friends, definitely worthy of a trip report soon hehehe, cocaine, alcohol, marijuana, and psilocybin, with a heavy shot of ativan to top off the cocktail, what an entertaining trip despite the "sobering" hospital environment, how ironic.) 
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alovesupreme
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i think it varies from person to person, it tends to bring me down pretty sharply from past experience (only ever took a benzo while on phenethylamines, though, never with a tryptamine) but my girl claims not so much for her... props for pegging every major category on the drug screen (save opiates, i guess), lol.
forgoodnesssakes
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Agreed, actually I think there was more at play than I would like to think that fateful evening, oh yes I left out a terribly real and highly delusional Butterfly Effect theme (saw the movie in the theatre on opening night while tripping balls on fungus, quite the ride, it all made too much sense...) of synchronicity that started at a bowling alley and eventually led me going to the hospital, I believe I had eaten the mushrooms at the time that I would be peaking upon getting to the hospital and that's when shit got out of body, it was already past the point of no return at the alley while talking to Billy Craven for some time about scoring some killer nuggets from his friend and a hot girlfriend who had a lake house, whom I believe was not real after telling my best friend about the trip;
but possibly my subconcious realized the glorious shot of ativan I was about to get and wanted to get 'blasted out of this world' (we made it as far as The Alps apparently) from it, maybe to avoid the pain of the needle going in, and The Matrix and The Alps was the most pleasurable experience my mind could devise, lol I need to write a trip report.
I think it was just the hefty dose of fungus + doing mass amounts of cocaine, marijuana, and taking the mushrooms down with a glass of wine or two that sent me over the deep end, no drug was gonna bring me back from that one but at least it was a fun trip I guess, lol I do not recommend attempting such things this was during a more abusive drug using phase I went through as a teenager, but one hell of a story apparently, however delusional it was.
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deidara
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I'm glad someone made a thread about this. I have only tripped a few times, they have all been within the last few months, but I know exactly the OP feels. That's exactly what happens to me, I will be consumed by negative thoughts and have to 'force myself' to do something else, or try to change my thinking pattern (which is not so easy!) It's a lot better for me if I'm around another person, because then I can talk about what's going on in my head and whoever I'm with can bring me back to reality. I'm in kind of a 'transitional period' in my life, and have a lot of worry and bad thoughts when I'm sober, so I've been kind of scared to trip lately because I'm worried all these fears I have will just be magnified on the trip. I believe psyches can really help with self-exploration, but when you have so many dark thoughts and emotions, that can be a scary place to dive into...
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aha i love those old ativan ads. did you pull those from erowid? the world could use more caring clinicians these days...
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Guess who my friend? Thought this trip report on erowid about mushrooms and ativan might come in handy for this thread as it deals with a trip turning negative and saved by the angel of Ativan, also known as Israfel by some: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=43657
Israfel_of_Erowid
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Careful please.
Sorry for the double post but I just want to add 2 videos for forgoodnesssakes movie theme trip that I totally understand, and yes delusions are not best sought for but can be rode out and sanity returned to, note how ending up going to the hospital for a shot of ativan occurs in both experiences..
Best quality of this scene I could find.
Sorry for the double post but I just want to add 2 videos for forgoodnesssakes movie theme trip that I totally understand, and yes delusions are not best sought for but can be rode out and sanity returned to, note how ending up going to the hospital for a shot of ativan occurs in both experiences.. Best quality of this scene I could find.
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Chipping Away
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The most negative thing that happened to me was I threw up on my self, but my friend was wearing 2 shirts and just gave me his extra one and we had a blast. That time we had 4 hits each of some strong stuff. It was fun, never negative.
GreenMachine
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when i was less experienced with psychedelics i would often find myself internally battling thoughts that i didnt want to think. after a while, i realized that these thoughts actually originate naturally but my own neurosis makes me dwell on it and get anxious. sounds cheesy but once i learned how to go with the flow and let these things happen, it became much easier to get over the negativity and on to other things.
on the other hand if the negative thoughts are part of a circumstantial situation you are in while tripping, that can be a lot different. as long as everyone you are tripping with are on the same wavelength then those kind of problems can be alleviated pretty easily unless it is with the authorities.
on the other hand if the negative thoughts are part of a circumstantial situation you are in while tripping, that can be a lot different. as long as everyone you are tripping with are on the same wavelength then those kind of problems can be alleviated pretty easily unless it is with the authorities.
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forgoodnesssakes: you seem to be really proud of taking too much drugs and going to the hospital or you think it's really funny....and we wonder where they get ammunition to make drugs illegal