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annonymouse

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is there a pain facility any where in perth australia?

im at the point where i cant deal with the pain any more and doctors wont give me medication to do so.

i need to be commuited or something or im gunna kill my self. this is infurating me to the point where i cant evan sit still and the more i move around the more pain i get
 
should i just go to the hospital and tell them im going to kill my self. im having a friggin panic attack and i cant calm down
 
Edit: Ring Lifeline now on 13 11 14 and talk to someone. If its a panic attack dont say you're going to kill yourself as you will not get medication that stops panic attacks only anti psychotics which dont effect everyone the same. They won't give you valium or anything like that.
Its hard to get a bed for a panic attack they will tell you to breathe and wait in the ER amongst a bun ch of people and probably give you one valium hours later. I know this from experience

My opinion:

If you go to a hospital and say that you will be detained under the mental health act and they will watch you over night. They may give you thorazine and valium but they will NOT give you painkillers. Depending on what you do or say while detained in most likely a small locked jail cell like room with only a mattress on the floor so you cant use a hospital bed to harm yourself. And if they have any room, they will put you in the mental health clinic.

It is much worse than being outside, they treat you like a psycho and you get awful food and terrible drugs and injections which will most likely do more harm than good, and you're stucdk in there with psycho meth heads.

Do i need to go on?

Do not trust the mental health system in this country it is about as good as the 3rd reich mental hospitals.
 
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dont trust the hospitals either...
i've been to 2 ERs in the past week and neither gave me medication and turned me away saying they cant treat my condition as they believe i have tried all medications available for m symptoms, even when i was convulsing, shivering and in the fetal position from pain, i was refused water and a bed, on both occasions i was told i would need to see a GP to get pain meds or a referral to a pain clinic.
GPs refuse to see me, so its a vicious cycle of sorts.

so depending on what you have pain from, i hope you have better luck.
 
Yes it seems state hospitals are going the way of medicate in america basically.

By the way if you ever goto a mental health clinic the records are sent to police so if you ever act up, even drunk on the streets looking like you're looking for trouble you'll be taken straight to the loony bin. it becomes a vicious cycle and you'll probably be called schizophrenic, then the police have the right to shoot you if you get too close. trust me the clinic isnt the way for help.

lost many friends to suic ide after they have been inside those hell holes many times.
 
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You guys shouldn't give such advice to someone who is suicidal. Would you rather he killed himself? This is a harm min forum, if the only advice you can give is harmful then please shut the fuck up!

To anonymous: go to a hospital or call an ambulance. this is the best option, they will give you something to calm you down and get you through this. Once your no longer a danger to yourself, then you can talk them about pain management.

good luck.
 
Well if you c an type on the internet you're still having conflictions about what to do.

Ring Lifeline now on 13 11 14

You can tell them everything anonymously. Ring from a ;Pay phone if you have to, im pretty sure it is a free number

Check out http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/forumdisplay.php?forumid=47

But I still stand on my opinions that a mental hospital is not the place to go and say you're going to kill yourself. Its the last option. I've seen the destruction they have on people.
If you changwe your mind you cannot leave as they change voluntary to involuntary for anyone doing anything wreckless to themselves and it can take weeks for a magistrate to get you out sometimes if you have an episode and act violently
 
psytaco said:
You guys shouldn't give such advice to someone who is suicidal. Would you rather he killed himself? This is a harm min forum, if the only advice you can give is harmful then please shut the fuck up!

To anonymous: go to a hospital or call an ambulance. this is the best option, they will give you something to calm you down and get you through this. Once your no longer a danger to yourself, then you can talk them about pain management.

good luck.
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and what if they dont help him and he is told that they will either admit him into a jail like situation (still with no meds) or send him away?

we are giving advice on what has happened, not what could have happened...
i felt abandoned by all services in this country when i was turned away from the hospital with no treatment and no tests and told to see a GP.

dont think i didnt go down the 'this pain is destroying my life and my want to live' etc etc, but if i didnt have the support of my family which i had to mend broken relationships over to assist in picking me up from the hospital and tell me things will get better, then i would be in a pit of immense depression much worse than i am now.

so the advice i give, is find the support of loved ones that can help guide you through this time and take you to the places you need to go.

rocking up to a hospital saying you will harm yourself if you dont get help will get you thrown in a cell either by police or by hospital staff.
 
I only have one question. Pain from what?

Is it genuine PAIN, as in back pain, leg pain etc...

OR are you withdrawing.

Different options for different pain. Contact lifeline or something similar if you are having suicidal thoughts, none of us here are qualified to give you advice on what to do in your current state.

Take care.
 
We would like to help find you a detox doctor if it is about drug abuse. But if you are depressed and anxious and you were born with that along with other shitty conditions like me and many others you're kind of in the same boat as us. we dont know what to do, live sober in pain or be drugged out and comfortable..? anyway hope you get back to us .
 
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and what if they dont help him and he is told that they will either admit him into a jail like situation (still with no meds) or send him away?
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If they are not treated after 24hrs they have a right to leave. Still you really don't want to stay in a psych hospital for pain, they don't give me anything for my back pain other than sleeping pills to put me to sleep. Place is boring as fuck and the doctors are lazy cunts only coming to see me at the start of the week. Food taste like shit and everyone is fucked in the head. You would be better off walking into a doctors office and asking if they could make time to see you.
 
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Oh dear these stories about staying at the Psych hospitals sound quite nasty :(. Is it possible for me to know which hospitals these anecdotes are referring to?
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I'm in Freo hospital. If you like craft, crappy food, nurses asking you if you are going to kill yourself everyday + other annoying shit then this is the place for you. The only thing that keeps me sane is going to the gym twice a day. That and my phone.
 
im assuming your talking about anxiety? im no way at all experianced with anything like this but my best bet is on seeing a therapist/psychiatrist ASAP... an ambulance/hospital cant help you with mental pain...
 
ive only been to st vinnys in melbourne and frankston ERs recently, where said stories above happened.

but i remember going to monash hospital in clayton few years ago with a stomach ulcer vomiting in the ER for 4 hours before being asked if im ok and got told off for telling the dr which medication to give me (somac - to suppress stomach acid) whilst they shoved me in a storage room on a half prepped bed with no food, water or pain meds for 4 hours then kicked me out when i was well enough wheel me out to a shove me in a cab with a script for somac and was told there was a pharmacy in the hospital, bye bye now.

hospitals arent like they show in the movies unfortunately, so i do feel for those that are stuck in beds, but at least you are getting treatment, which seems to be the one of hard parts apparently.

but cant bitch and moan, at least its free to a point i guess?

to the OP, i hope you are just using the phrase as a form of getting a point across, please remember there are others in the same situation. when times feel like the the worst, its hard to imagine there are others in the same, let alone a worse situation and we do at least epathise with you, and i know theres alot of people at least on these forums that would do anything they can do to help in the ways that they can.
i only hope you do have some loved ones or at least friends that are close to you that you can vent, lean on, or as mentioned above, be a means of transport if nothing else.

i wish admitting myself to a hospital even under mental health circumstances meant a doctor would take me seriously, but sadly its not the case, so whilst i dont know the severity or nature of your pain, after 2 years of chronic pain i do have an understanding of how you could be getting to such extremes
 
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DSM-IV... burn it. labels are BS and it depends on mood and doctors opinion. some sections are only two symptoms different from each condition.
 
Most psychs have admitted they think its part of the industry but they dont totally agree with it.
My last shrink after 6 sessions I said well doc, pick a label out of the DSM-IV for me im interested what I have this diagnosis . and she laaughed and said you're not making this fair on me. Most of them use the guide,lines plus their own opinnions and even some like to use NLP and hypnotherapy lessons or even eastern ideas mixed with the strict what i learnt in Uni crap.

I would often joke about my shrinks about how i have the need to belt my father up and fuck my mother that would always make them laugh. I dont think Uni really prepares any shrink for what they are going to deal with as everyone is different obviously. getting a bit off topic here but yeah its very hard to find someone to stay wirth. i would say theyve done more harm on me than not.
 
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