Need suggestions on my detox methods 23 year Paxil usage

[imelting74]

If this post needs to be moved that's A Ok, I just feel this post could use some real expertise.
I have been on a constant dose of 20mg Paxil used for depression and anxiety for 24 years, the last year my dosage was upped to 30mg. I'm 5'10" 175 lbs. if that matters.
During earlier periods of that time I had quit briefly for sometimes months, and the effects it had on my mind were anything from quite positive (until something triggered a type of constant panic state again, to massive anxiety, depression and almost uncontrollable rage. For a very long time now I had just exepted the fact that it would be a lifelong thing untill I discovered some possible alternatives right here on bluelight. After some very extensive studying and a slow integration and testing of some different supplements, I completed a specific concoction, if you will, that I can only say is nothing short of a miracle for my struggle with this med from Satan.
I would like someone to review what I have created and possibly give me advice on things that may need to either tweek, increase, remove, or adjust for both a better result AND for safety risks.
Before anything else I need to say that I have not taken a single dose of Paxil in five days now (not even a taper dose) and not only am I not experiencing any wd, but I feel better than I have in I don't know how long. Like insanely good. Here's my recipe:


Daily Drink / 2x Daily
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Magnesium Citrate (Calm brand) 1TBS
Calcium Carbonate 1/2 tsp
L tyrosine 800mg
Vit C Crystals 1/4 tsp
Hymylayin Pink Salt Sole 1/2 tsp
Mix w/ z OJ
*Note* Will fizz like a mo when mixed may overflow in small glass

For Potassium (Eat w/Daily Drink)
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Yogurt
Bananas

Daily Pills (Take w/ Daily Drink)
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Zink 50mg / 1x daily
Clonidine 0.1mg / 2x daily
Meletonin 3mg / 1x daily
Gabapentin 300mg / 4x daily

An hour before each meal I hit the water bottle hard.(Spring water we get right out of the side of the mountain) (3) 4z water bottles every day for me. I don't worry about flushing essential minerals from my body with that amount of water, because of the pink salt sole (so-lay) does. So I've heard.

I eat salads mostly. Always add some pink salt. Eggs alot for protien. Good fats like bacon from our pig instead of carbs to keep body acidity low, alkaline high.

Other possibility but I'm weary of it
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Full spectrum vitamin or
B6 vitamin

Doc to check these soon
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Blood pressure
Colesteral
Tryglyserides
Thyroid
Creatine

I have read studies that prove beyond any doubt that most all cases of depression are caused just by a Magnesium deficiency. Most people are today because of our nutrition intake, and is my favorite of my list. I feel very strong calming effects very quickly from each dose.

***PLEASE READ BELOW***

I would like to include the other meds I currently am prescribed and take daily incase there is also any safety issues with my magic stew.

Warfarin(Blood thinner)7.5mg daily
Levothyroxine(Hypothyroidism)200mcg daily

I want to thank anyone in advance who can give me input, suggestions, opinions or warnings. I'll keep my progress updated for anyone who is interested. This would be an absolute miracle for me to do this successfuly. Thanks for reading.

 

[imelting74]

Forgot to mention one interaction that may need tweaking is between the L-tyrosine and the Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism. I imagine the dose of Levo might need to be cut back?

 

[aced126]

I doubt you could pin down the cause of depression to a simple Mg deficiency. Depression is much more complicated and many things can be implicated; it doesn't boil down to one thing.

 

[serotonin2A]

Please cite the studies showing that magnesium deficiency is widely linked to depression. Obviously that doesn't make any sense or magnesium would be the standard treatment. It is true that depression may be a symptom Mg defficiency but that doesn't mean that most people with depression have low Mg.

The clonidine and gabapentin are likely what are helping the most. If you are having trouble withdrawing then the easiest thing to do is to switch over to fluoxetine and then taper the dose. Fluoxetine is eliminated so slowly that withdrawal is rare.

 

[imelting74]

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Med Hypotheses. 2006;67(2):362-70. Epub 2006 Mar 20.
Rapid recovery from major depression using magnesium treatment.
Eby GA1, Eby KL.
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Major depression is a mood disorder characterized by a sense of inadequacy, despondency, decreased activity, pessimism, anhedonia and sadness where these symptoms severely disrupt and adversely affect the person's life, sometimes to such an extent that suicide is attempted or results. Antidepressant drugs are not always effective and some have been accused of causing an increased number of suicides particularly in young people. Magnesium deficiency is well known to produce neuropathologies. Only 16% of the magnesium found in whole wheat remains in refined flour, and magnesium has been removed from most drinking water supplies, setting a stage for human magnesium deficiency. Magnesium ions regulate calcium ion flow in neuronal calcium channels, helping to regulate neuronal nitric oxide production. In magnesium deficiency, neuronal requirements for magnesium may not be met, causing neuronal damage which could manifest as depression. Magnesium treatment is hypothesized to be effective in treating major depression resulting from intraneuronal magnesium deficits. These magnesium ion neuronal deficits may be induced by stress hormones, excessive dietary calcium as well as dietary deficiencies of magnesium. Case histories are presented showing rapid recovery (less than 7 days) from major depression using 125-300 mg of magnesium (as glycinate and taurinate) with each meal and at bedtime. Magnesium was found usually effective for treatment of depression in general use. Related and accompanying mental illnesses in these case histories including traumatic brain injury, headache, suicidal ideation, anxiety, irritability, insomnia, postpartum depression, cocaine, alcohol and tobacco abuse, hypersensitivity to calcium, short-term memory loss and IQ loss were also benefited. Dietary deficiencies of magnesium, coupled with excess calcium and stress may cause many cases of other related symptoms including agitation, anxiety, irritability, confusion, asthenia, sleeplessness, headache, delirium, hallucinations and hyperexcitability, with each of these having been previously documented. The possibility that magnesium deficiency is the cause of most major depression and related mental health problems including IQ loss and addiction is enormously important to public health and is recommended for immediate further study. Fortifying refined grain and drinking water with biologically available magnesium to pre-twentieth century levels is recommended.
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[imelting74]

This is just a short basic one I'll post the other better ones as soon as I get the chance but Google it, it is quite amazing

 

[imelting74]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...on.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHJpLJm1RkdpFMQjEej2fOicUsziA

 

[Cotcha Yankinov]

Isn't medical hypothesis not a real journal?

 

[serotonin2A]

I understand that people have argued that there may be a link, but that still leaves the step of accumulating evidence that actually proves that Mg plays a causal role in depression. Until then, this topic will remain highly speculative, and it is important to keep in mind that it may turn out that in most patients Mg does not play a role in the development of depression or produce antidepressant effects.

RE the Med Hypotheses paper, case reports from a few patients doesn't answer the question one way or the other. Placebo treatment relieves the symptoms in of depression in approximately 10-20% of study participants.

For what i would consider to be a more reasonable review, see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23321048

Isn't medical hypothesis not a real journal?

It is a real journal in that it physically exists, but it doesn't have effective peer review, and more often than not the articles are garbage.

 

[Nagelfar]

Before anything else I need to say that I have not taken a single dose of Paxil in five days now (not even a taper dose) and not only am I not experiencing any wd, but I feel better than I have in I don't know how long. Like insanely good.

I have the same effect (nigh-euphoric response) to quitting 200mg Zoloft & 30mg Remeron a day (over two years of use); however I've been nearly as long (a week) and a friend of mine warned against a delayed "hitting you all at once" in terms of negative affect, perhaps even more in the case of your situation than mine; it happened to him. I have no nifty recipe, though.

Forgot to mention one interaction that may need tweaking is between the L-tyrosine and the Levothyroxine for hypothyroidism. I imagine the dose of Levo might need to be cut back?

"Needing tweaking" is always a good potential SSRI cessation method. Har-har-te-har.