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digital_phreedom

digital_phreedom

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Hey all, I'd appreciate some help from experienced people with something I've been trying to figure out:

The rolls/molly I've been taking lately are affecting me in a weird way.. It's nothing like the MDMA I was taking last year.. But since then I've gotten off heroin, and been taking Ibogaine from time to time.

Ibogaine is thought to have an SSRI like affect, so at first I thought it was from that.. But after giving it a month with no Ibogaine, and still having the same problem, now I'm wondering: maybe I'm just getting some analogues? Mephedrone or something like that?

That's where I turn to you.. I have never knowingly taken any of the analogue substances, so I don't know what they feel like.. But I definitely know what real MDMA feels like, and lately it has been nothing like that.

First, the come up is usually longer, one time it was over two hours on an empty stomach! But usually it's at least an hour. This past time what I had was "molly" and I didn't want it to last as long, so I insufflated and it came on within 10 minutes.

The effects last about as long as MDMA, and are very similar.. I become very talkative and empathetic. Have a lot of energy, etc. But the noticeable differences are that there is no "blowing up". Nothing that even compares. The effects come on nice and easy, like most other drugs.

Also, there is little sensitivity to touch or lights.. Light shows aren't quite as awesome, and vicks doesn't really stimulate me that much.

So I can only conclude that either Ibogaine somehow changed my brain, which I think is least likely.. Or I have some analogue substance, or maybe I'm just not taking enough? (But for the price I sure hope I am, I usually only take one pill, but with these I've started taking two pills or tenths of 'molly', but in the past with real MDMA one dose has always done me just fine)

Thanks in advance for any help!
 
hmmm, maybe your tolerance has gone up & you need a break, or a slight loss of magic, i've found that doing it too often ruins it for me
 
Hunnymoon is over baby, time to say hello to not so special rolls.

Trust me: after having your first amazing rolls, the hunnymoon will be over, and ull be stuck with a pretty bland, non memorable roll, with just as bad as a comedown.

Try it again if you want....i guarentee ill be right

Sorry good luck =D
 
@ the ibogaine comment: Ibogaine's action isn't a week or more, perhaps you're thinking of it's metabolites? 12-hydroxy-Ibogaine is thought to be stored in fat cells and can last for months. Even Ibogaine itself though, if that is still what you're thinking of, can last a long time.. Primary effects taking a few days to subside. But most people only hear about it being taken in 'flood' doses, 12 or more mg/kg. I've done that, but now I'm only using booster or micro doses, 2-4mg/kg for boosts, 1mg/kg or less for micro-doses. Micro-doses are sub-threshhold.

But it has a cumulative effect, so it still builds up over time.

This is quite sad for me.. Perhaps I have "lost the magic". I plan on getting a test kit soon.. However, one more thing I was hoping people here could help me with, is know what things like mephedrone and other analogues are supposed to feel like? Because a large part of me still thinks that may be what it is, as I have seen many other people eat the same things I've been taking, and it doesn't look to me like they're "rolling balls" either.
 
digital_phreedom said:
However, one more thing I was hoping people here could help me with, is know what things like mephedrone and other analogues are supposed to feel like?
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Now that's an entirely different question.

I realize the distinction may seem stupid but it really isn't. I can't have any realistic hope of telling you what you took. I can tell you what methylone feels like for me. If you choose to then draw your own conclusions from that, that's your prerogative.

For me, methylone is kind of like MDMA Lite. The effects are very similar but much more subtle. Onset is usually in the range of 20 minutes on an empty stomach but has been as long as an 1.25h when I ate a shitload of ice cream before dosing. Duration is more like 2 hours without a redose. Comedown is much easier and even when I was testing the upper limits of dosage I've never had a Suicide Tuesday. I grind but do with almost all stimulant style drugs.
 
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