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Need some direction from EXPERIENCED IV users... 3yrs +

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Twisted247

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I'm looking for some direction to some good veins, I've been IV'ing for 3yrs plus. I have used up ALL the veins in my hands, forearms elbow area, feet, and ankles. I had a bad motorcycle accident 9mnths ago and even in the ER room and the hospital aftercare they had TROUBLE trying to find a vein on me. I'm talking 5 plus people trying a totaled 45+ times just to try and draw blood for testing, before surgeries.. Along with The only two catheters they could land they failed so they had to get a ultrasound machine and use a pickline in the biceps which is too deep for heroin iv use with the usual 28ga. Needles.

So please only people. With experience answer cause even the best people in the best hospital in the state couldn't hit my feet ankles hands or arms.. if they didn't hit the pick line they were gonna hit my jugular and IV me up that way..

So anyone who knows some veins in the validated or around the knee or thighs.. or else where on shoulders or something please let me know.. I am cutting back doses in preperation for sub treatment..but until then I am tired of searching for a vein for 1hr plus DOPE SICK s fuck.... And no I'm not gonna muscle it..

Thanks in advance,
TwisteD247
 
i'm not going to advise you to continue to take that hour digging around to find a vein. evidently there's not much you can do apart from use a different ROA in the meantime waiting to get onto the bupe if the nurses are having those difficulties with you.

smoking or nasally are going to be your better alternatives.
 
Or plug it, maybe?

I agree with DP, there really isn't much you can do if they needed to use ultrasound to locate a deeo vein in hospital..
 
Well with my habit taking it anyother way then IV is not an option especially on a limited income having to hustle everyday for a get well... Again not to be a Dick but if you were an experienced IV user you would know this.. thats why I originally said what I did in the OP.
 
On a side note against popular belief on this forum that if you hit an artery you will die or lose a limb etc.. I have used up and hardened the arteries in my hands and forearms..
 
My old best friend, I watched him try to hit a vein for like 6 or more hours several times 'cause he used up all his veins and he actually had good technique. I dont advise it but why dont you just use your jugular? If you arent finding any veins have you looked at a vein map? if you still dont find any then its time to switch methods OR quit....
 
Twisted247 said:
Well with my habit taking it anyother way then IV is not an option especially on a limited income having to hustle everyday for a get well... Again not to be a Dick but if you were an experienced IV user you would know this.. thats why I originally said what I did in the OP.
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this is far from dicksizing but i've put 1000+ injections in myself over the last 6 years and have never so much as suffered anything worse than a sterile abscess from missed shots; i consider myself experienced with IV'ing, especially never having blown out a vein let alone hit arteries and hardened them - not to be a dick. it would be a good thing for you to put the needle down asap before getting on the bupe. you've nothing left to gain.

all it requires is adjusting your dose to a different route of administration through careful titration or going through a few days of adjusting on a smaller dose through a different ROA if you can't afford to hold yourself otherwise. it wouldn't hurt to cut back your habit before entering treatment. get a head start, ay?
 
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this is far from dicksizing but i've put 1000+ injections in myself over the last 6 years and have never so much as suffered anything worse than a sterile abscess from missed shots; i consider myself experienced with IV'ing, especially never having blown out a vein let alone hit arteries and hardened them - not to be a dick. it would be a good thing for you to put the needle down asap before getting on the bupe. you've nothing left to gain.

all it requires is adjusting your dose to a different route of administration through careful titration or going through a few days of adjusting on a smaller dose through a different ROA if you can't afford to hold yourself otherwise. it wouldn't hurt to cut back your habit before entering treatment. get a head start, ay?
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Ya I hear you on lowering the dose and I have been doing that, just a month ago I was at roughly a half a ball a day.. I have lowered it significantly and yes I have also easily hit myself over a k times. Now I have thought about the jugular, but I have a friend who is in a wheelchair for life with the left side of her body paralyzed from Fucking up a jug shot.. And another friend is currently in the hospital for missing in the neck and getting staff..

So to the quoted poster do you know of any veins in the calf/knee area? As for doing the other ROA I started years ago by mixing it w/ water Nd snorting from a eye dropper bottle, then to smoking then to muscle etc.. So I know with limited income it would be an absolute waste to Smoke it for getting well..

Sorry for the jumbled format and shitty punctuation but I'm typing it up on the pho.e and frankly don't have the time to proof read and set it up correctly.

But gladly I've reached the point where I WANT to quit, if I could accelerate my hype appointment boy would I.

Thanks,
TwisteD247
 
in the mean time try concentrate on getting off the needle and continue to lower your dose. it seems you're trying to rationalise hitting yourself even after presenting evidence that you're blown out and you're well aware of the health risks with hitting the jugular and other regions that aren't recommended. noone here is going to going to condone it here.

my point is about hitting myself +1K times is i haven't lost a vein or landed myself permanent damage from any mishaps i've had; i could hit myself on any number of spots if i so desired right now. IV'ing for you at this point just isn't feasible nor a viable option in my humble opinion.
 
Okay so not to sound like an asshole or anything, but all these answers aren't answering the poor "guys" problem, or girl?, sorry i didnt check the gender of the poster:-/
When u are an IV user like we are, your only choice Is IV or it is pointless because A. You have to snort literally a ton to feel it, and B. Usually dope fiends like us have issues buying a shit ton of dope everyday. I mean it's obvious another ROA would work but that's just not something IV ers want to do, and another thing, if he is getting on suboxone soon, he is gonna wanna have a good time before he does that, so no matter what anyone says he's not gonna put the needle down before he gets his subs. Just wanted to say all this stuff bc ppl post questions like this for ppl who are experienced and people who don't really "get it" post and it's pointless.

Anyhow back to the question, Soooo...you want to know where to find a vein, I have shot for 3.5 years and very rarely do I ever have trouble hitting but recently I have because I've been getting bull for dope in Chicago so I've been shooting up like every 2 minutes just to feel something >.< when I can afford it ugh.
anyways I found a couple veins on my shins that worked well for a while, and also there are other superficial veins on your neck and découté that aren't your jugular u could try or have a friend help u with.
Otherwise I don't know.... As of now I am using a small gauge needle and shooting in the tiny veins on the side of my feet , you know those ones almost on the arch of ur foot? Yeah and they hurt like a bitch, bit for a last result u could use those, but it sounds like u already have.
Well I found this vein map on google it could help u. They also have more specific ones if you search for maybe vein map arm or hand you can get a better and closer look at what u r working with.
I hope this helped u. I know ur pain and it sucks. Good luck
http://mste.illinois.edu/courses/educ362sp04/folders/wisseman/veins.gif. <--- that's the vein mAp address
Cheers,
Puff.
 
Thank you puffcup for reading and comprehending my OP, and a damn good post in return. That's the shit I was looking for to a T.. Now any other people that want to reply like that is more then welcome.
 
yea on the basis of HR it would be wise to start bumping up or smoking it, but i know once you shoot it, theres no other way to do it. Thing is you have yourself quite a pickle here with the fact you have no easy veins to stick. There are two places i know of that you can try, AT YOUR OWN RISK!! there is a big vein right on your left hip, if you lay down and kinda do a sit up, you should be able to see it. There is also the pleasure vein....i dont think i need to tell you where that is...unless you are a female, in which case you lack the er...proper equipment. ive never shot into the pleasure vein before, my veins never got really bad. just be super careful and dont push down that plunger til you are 100% sure you are in. missing a shot like that isnt like missing in the crook of your arm or something, a miss like that could present serious health problems, as does injecting into places that needles arent really meant to go. be safe.
 
Ya I appreciate the idea of the pleasure area and yes I'm a male, But I take to much pride in that area and could NEVER imagine missing in there and getting an abcess.. Don't really want my ding-a-ling lanced ooouucch. As for the one on the thigh I am definately going to take a gander in that area. Could you be a little more specific as to the area.

And its hard to see some of my veins in the neck cause I'm a bigger dude got a little bit of chubbiness on my neck. I'm bout 6'1" 220lbs (not to mention I'm not really in it to get loaded anymore its just a matter of maintenance/staying well until bupe appt....ya know?)

Anyways ya if you have a little more info on the location of that one on the thigh hit me back.

Thanks,
TwisteD247
 
yea its where your V is for lack of a better word. its like on your left hip if you follow your torso down to where your waist is, on your left hip you should be able to see it.
 
I know you said that all your veins in your arms and hands are gone and that they had to use an ultrasound to find a deep vein to put a pic line in, but I am wondering if there might just be some in your hands that your are missing.

They may be very small and it might take some practice and a very steady hand (maybe have a friend help) but I almost bet you can find something. Before you mentioned your issue with finding some of your other veins due to your “little bit of chubbinesss” I was thinking you were fucked and the jug or other hard to hit dangerous veins were your only option, but with that comment I think you might have a little more hope that you think.

I mean I know you say you hit and hardened all of your arteries in your arms and hands, but if this is the case and you have also killed all of your veins then you should be having some serious circulation problems, especially in your fingers.

Also I want to point out that you do not seem to have any problem hitting arteries (which regardless of what you claim is an extremely dangerous practice), so why do you have such an issue hitting your jug? I mean if you truly risked loosing your hands, fingers and arms hitting your arteries then why the hell are you so worried about using a huge VEIN that is used all the time by a SHIT TONNE of people. On top of the fact that a lot of people use their jug many of these people don’t have the best IV practice and hygiene, but you still see more problems with people hitting arteries in there arms/hands than you do with the jug (check case studies).

Here is the thing, I was once where you are now thinking I had no where to hit (I would spend hours digging around and endlessly thinking I had found some tiny random vein only to miss most of the shot), but after a while I found that if I did a little of my DOC via a different ROA to get the sick off and calm myself down I was able to, with a lot of proper prep tech, find and use some veins, especially in my hand, that I had never seem before.

Good Luck.
 
I have close to the same prob. been on ms & 8mg dillies for over 5 years & found that(at least for awhile) don't swap off the pink tip for a 27ga. Hurts a little more but works for me.
 
To OnandOFF .. I wasn't saying I thought hitting arteries was dangerous.. I said the popular "belief" on this forum is that u will lose limbs die etc.. I hit the tickets all the time, if I'm dopesick I'm hitting the first thing that registers. Now have I had my hand blow up like a Softball, yes but it goes back down. The heroin is cut up enough to not be broken down by your system.

If u have been on the needle for years you would know this.. I've been through the up's in downs, had 10,000 in cash and not get sick for a while..to the times where I have had to hustle everyday sick as hell then get on a bus for a 4hr roundtrip just to get well everyday.. And when your down and out the ONLY thing you have on your mind is getting well by whatever means.
 
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