Need Infro on LSD

[Mac98]

Hey everyone...

My friend and I recently decided to try out LSD. We're still searching for a contact but we're hoping to trip around New Year's. However, as much research as I've done on the subject, I'd still like to hear advice from people who've actually tripped before. I have a few questions that I've been asking myself and thought maybe y'all could give me a few tips.

First of all, I've been told that if you start to bad trip on acid that changing environments will almost certainly snap you back to reality. Is this true? Does it help at all?

I saw a video of a girl tripping balls inside a tent and the whole time she's just speaking incoherently and sometimes going "lalalala" or "Boom! ...Boom boom!!" and then keeps on ranting about nothing, really. In the videos description it said she was doing this so she doesn't lose grip on reality. Since she's in a closed space, her thoughts are being fired at the speed of light and following one train of thought can lead her very far of the "reality" path and into a crazy fucken trip... I wonder, though, why this would be a negative thing? I've heard people talk about how humbling and divine their trips were so I have a hard time understanding why following this train of thought would be a bad thing and not something potentially beautiful?

Lastly, if I were to bad trip on LSD (don't worry, I won't be taking a lot, seeing as it'll be my first hallucinogenic trip (apart from 30x Salvia...)) what would you suggest I (or someone a little more lucid than I) do? ...If there's anything that CAN be done..?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Solipsis]

Check up on the First time LSD thread, by using the Index.

But to answer in short here what I think:

Changing environments can change a trip like night and day, but it is not Panacea, it won't miraculously fix everything that feels like it's going wrong. It will rather give you another chance to look upon things another way. But it can be tempting to slip into the very same thought pattern. You will come to learn how to be in charge of your own thought patterns, as long as you don't dose higher than your learning curve can keep track of. Control of your own thought sounds like attachment to control, but I'd say that is an illusion because being in charge fundamentally exposes your fiber of free will. Even if free will only means having enough faith in your own free will that it actually makes you executive. Confusing stuff.

About the girl: that's what we would call 'grounding'. Floating freely can be a relief, a wonderful dance without restraint. But it can be overwhelming. In a trip it is common to be pulled towards to sides, the one side is the grounded side that makes you feel like you have a grip, like you have control. Some would say your ego is what is wanting this control. Through desires, and need for predictability and so forth. But we are also compelled to free ourselves. You are wondering how it is not obvious to release yourself and go with the flow? You would have to be in a situation to emphasize with that... when experiences become overwhelming, the need for some more control returns.
So it's a paradox: the more freedom you allow yourself the more scary it can be because there is nothing external anymore to fall back on, no handles, no grip. Instead what you need to realize is that you have yourself to fall back on, a deep feeling of trust and faith. It's an existential struggle perhaps, or an episode reflecting it... arguments why just a bit of grip or control is needed can be suddenly convincing, for example I once became afraid that if I let go completely, I could end up lost - I could wake up in a bad place unintentionally, I feared that a disconnection like that could make me do unacceptable things in reality, where my body would still be. I had to return to balance and realize how faith (not christian, just self belief) was essential.

Suggestions for a bad trip? Well use the Index to check several threads on the subject. But basically I would say it is again a reflection of conflict within yourself: apparently you cannot let go of certain things and get stuck in a loop of asking yourself things and only coming up with something unacceptable. The solution is often to learn how to stop asking, and let go anyway because it's inevitable and the only way out of standing in your own way.

 

[freedstar]

You need to do settle down at a place where you know you'll be comfortable and not have to worry about "normal" things. If your idea of a good time is mumbling nonsense inside a tent then go for it. I'm not saying you wont have a blast but I think the best thing to do is go out and experience something.

I recommend bicycles

 

[Sadner]

If my sitter had done these things i think it would have helped me out of my bad trips.
Telling me:
Who they were and who I am
What was taken and when it will end
Your location
Assuring them it will end

These things really worried me and are quite broad so i hope it helps other sitters pull their tripper out of bad trips

 

[Mac98]

^^^

My major problem while bad tripping would probably be fear of it being a traumatic event or of doing some serious psychological damage... This is why I don't wanna take too much for my first times. Just enough to get me comfortably high.

Another question: Does LSD make you paranoid like marijuana does?

 

[Flickering]

LSD is many things to many people, but I don't think it's particularly notorious for inducing paranoid anxiety, as weed does for some. Of course, in a bad trip you might indeed become very paranoid. If you're in an unfamiliar environment, it could also make you uneasy. Serious psychological damage is also my main fear, but I've gone through two bad trips of psychotic magnitudes and came out the other side completely sane. It seems to usually be people with a latent condition who lose their minds for good. Mind you, if I had a trip like that every couple of days, I'd probably end up with PTSD or something. Just don't bite off more than you can chew, always do it with the right set and setting, and you'll have nothing to worry about.

 

[moke]

Imagine taking a thought you had in your head, any thought, nothing you intedned to think just something that came across your mind and with out you realizing it became your reality. That is the power of lsd in my mind. Have fun but dont under estimate as lsd is one of the most strongest and unpredictable drugs known to mankind.