Need help getting clean.

[Slaveofgenrx]

Well I had been taking opiates every day for about a month. Oxy hydro whatever. But I wanted to get clean so I bought about 10 8mg Suboxone. I have been taking them every few days for the past week. They take away the cravings and don't get me high. It's nice. But I can't afford them. Also for the past week or two ive been taking 5mg klonopin every couple days. Anyways, I need to be clean and I need to do it cold turkey. I took my last 8mg sub 2 days ago and 5mg of klonopin today. How bad and how long do you guys think the withdrawals and stuff will last. I have to do this for me. It's either get sober or lose everything and kill myself. I know I don't have as bad as a habit as allot of people, I just need advice. I'm sure the benzo withdrawl wont be that bad its only been a every other or couple of day habit. I'm just more worried about the subs.

 

[stardust.hero]

If you want to continue to wean off with suboxone--I have found that snorting suboxone can significantly save you a lot of money and works equally as effective. You need a much smaller dose, shave off a small sliver or cut each milligram into 4 separate doses (cut pill into quarters then quarter each of them again). Can work with both pills and films. I was able to make one 8mg pill and/or film last me 6-7 days. It takes the same amount of time as sublingual to kick in (aprox. 2 hours). I strongly support suboxone for opiate withdrawal! Goodluck!

 

[RedLeader]

If I understand you correctly, you had a month-long run with various "fun" opiates, and then switched to using Suboxone for a week, and now are about to jump off of that too? If that's the case, I think you're going to get off pretty easily. You've only been using for a month, so even if you didn't have Subs, it wouldn't be the absolute hell that you hear about or read about online. You probably would have felt a bit weird for a few days, but the Suboxone likely blocked those side-effects. One week isn't long enough to develop a physical dependency on Suboxone, so I think that anything left for you to feel is going to be of the "no more opiates; back to real life" type of blues. You might have a bit of insomnia, find yourself sneezing in fits, and/or a bit fatigued physically, but really I don't think you'll have it that bad.

As for the benzos, if you've just been using them in spurts for a few weeks as well, you won't face any physical withdrawal from them either. You might feel a bit anxious, but this is more likely you worrying about *if* there is going to be a withdrawal, than an actual withdrawal being the source of that anxiety. If you know what I mean.

Most important thing for you right now is to stay busy with productive responsibilities and interests, eat well and sleep as much as you can, and try not to obsess about withdrawal or anything. Trust me when I tell you that you do NOT want to know what it's like staying in the opiate (or benzo) game for very much longer, and I'm really glad to see that you're resolute on getting out while you can!

Good luck!

 

[Slaveofgenrx]

Well before I tried Suboxone I tried to quit opiates cold turkey. The rls was hell, and the anxiety. My friend had some subs. At first I was taking 8mg once a day. Then I realized I'd be fine if I waited every 3 days. Anyways my opiate habit wasn't a joke. I did a bottle of 80 Percs in a few days, was taking 50mg of hydro, a 40mg op now and then. Quoting cold turkey wasn't that terrible besides insomnia and rls. That's why I started the benZos. Which is a habit I really don't want. The sad thing is all this use was just starting to let me get by. I rarely got high. I have to stop, it's gonna suck. I know

 

[OverDone]

It's easier to stay clean than it is to get clean. There will be the unavoidable pain of withdrawal no matter what but the good thing is that you only have to go through it once. After that your choices are yours.

One thing that addicts suffer from is that we forget about that pain we previously went through. Sometimes we minimize it to the point of it being negligible. In doing this we find it easier to justify 'just one more' and we start the cycle all over again only to be forcefully reminded of how bad it was before and that we may even have made it worse than before.

Once stopped, what is your plan on staying stopped? When I put the shit down I had to pretty much change EVERYTHING. All my old ideas, attitudes and behaviors weren't working in a drug free life and they were the very things that kept me using. I had to learn and practice new ways of approaching and living life. If I kept on doing the same things that I was doing I would eventually receive the same results I had always gotten.

Have you considered any options to help facilitate necessary change in the form of CBT, 12 Stepping, DBT, Rational Recovery, etc? It's humbling but extremely important and will greatly enhance your chances at getting not only a manageable life but a life worth living. Shit, I firmly believe that unless we humble ourselves and ask for help (real life help) then we are doomed to be humiliated and will inevitably o back to our old ways

The physical withdrawal is a one time, extremely temporary deal. The obsession of using lasts much longer and you'll need some tools to combat those obsessive, compulsive thoughts and actions.

Don't give up hope though! The obsession goes away in time as well and when it does you'll be amazed at the new feelings and freedoms that become a part of your everyday, consistent growth.

Dude told me once that "you gotta go through it in order to get through it". He wasn't lying and I'm glad he didn't give me false ideas on what to expect in the beginning.

Stay strong. Don't fucking pick that shit up (no matter what) and ignore the thoughts that go through your head. If your anything like me, one side of your brain will be manufacturing bullshit nd the other side will be believing it. Other people are the solution to our fucked up ways of thinking. Once you start keeping your own counsel, you'll be in for a rough road

Stay on point. You can do rhis