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Need help from the wise EADD folk! How dyou deal with a narcicist pathological liar?

Pagey

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Posted a similar post in SLR but I've edited it enough that I hope this'll be okay :)

(also: hi EADD! Hope you're all doing well here! =D)

[warning: very long post but worth reading if only for pure entertainment]

Soooo as anyone who's been around here long enough knows, I've been engaged to mrcientist for over a year now and we're getting married this July =D
So there's another EADD meetup success story ;)

We couldn't be happier. But there's a rather erm, hefty issue in the (lucky for me) form of my fiancé's family.
You'd fall asleep before I'd even explained half of it but here's the gist:
My fiancé's younger sister, who's around my age, is putting her best efforts in (which, considering how pathetic and stupid she is, aren't doing much) to break us up. She actually sent me a text saying she 'couldn't wait until mrcientist realised how much of a fucked up psycho I was and dumped me'.

That was said after I opened up my biggest secret and shame to my fiancé's family - having been kidnapped and gang raped a few years ago. Her reaction? Tell me I was pathetic, that she'd been through 'way worse' (I asked her if she'd ever been raped and she said no) and that the way I'd dealt with it was stupid and disrespectful to others (?!). After that, trying to rise above the situation, I let it go for the sake of the family dynamic.
So before reading this next bit, just keep in mind that I let incredibly offensive, fucked up and traumatic comments about my rape go. (Oh also, she contacted some of my friends that she didn't know and tried to convince them that I was exaggerating the whole thing as a cry for attention).

Fast forward a couple weeks to one lovely evening where she - having no mental illness aside for vague anxiety disoder [I'm not belittling anxiety disorders by any means, having a pretty bad one myself] suddenly decided that her boyfriend wasn't giving her the attention she 'deserved', knocked him down to the floor, kicked him in the balls for quite a while, punched him, slapped him, etc. Oh, and all this before insulting her autistic bother as well as my fiancé for being a 'drug addict' (note: about 6 months clean at that time). 2 minutes later she was crying for my fiancé to come and see her because he was the only one who 'understood her' - despite being a scummy drug addict, you know ;)

Couple weeks later, they were back together (think you're getting a gist of how fucked up they both are by now) and I sent her boyfriend a message telling him that having been in an abusive relationship myself, I know how hard it is to get out but now that it'd become physically abusive as well he just needed to run as far away as he could from her. About 30 seconds later I get a message from my fiancé's sister (we'll call her cuntface) hurling abuse at me, and telling me to keep my nose out of their business.
Now, I'm pretty sure you'll all agree: physical assault or abuse is EVERYONE's business, regardless of the sex of the victim. Would you walk by a grl getting beaten up in the street by a guy? Didn't think so. It's everyone's business.

So then cuntface spent a whole day sending me the most insulting texts she could think of - until I finally told her that in the end, I'd just gotten a really easy offer for an MA at UCL the day she got into a polytechnic. I know how braggy that was but no one insults my fiancé like that and gets away with it.

After that we didn't speak for weeks, silent treatment etc. Until tonight:her boyfriend (we'll call him 'dickhead pretending to have a brain') sent me (through two different people cuz he didn't have the balls to say it to my face) a long message which was a mishmash of insults and nonsense - which is quite funny because he said I couldn't spell when the only texts I've ever sent him have been quite benzoed

Last night, my fiancé really bravely poured his heart out to his sister and told her how much it hurt him how she'd been treating both him and me (considering he's been an INCREDIBLE brother to her her whole life) and her reply ignored all of that completely and just focused on insulting me.
I might also add that she's not coming to our wedding. Personally I don't give a fuck if she doesn't want to be there for me, but what kind of dickhead doesn't go to her brother's wedding just because she doesn't get along with his bride, even though may I add, I've apologised profusely to her, even about things that I shouldn't have been apologising for just to get her to go to her brother's wedding.

And now tonight, she finally agreed for the four of us to talk on the phone. Naively I actually thought this would go well...yeah. She kept saying that my interference about the abuse in their relationship (WHICH I APOLOGISED FOR) was sooo much worse than her deriding my gang rape (WHICH SHE ABSOLUTELY DID NOT APOLOGISE FOR)
Both my fiancé and I have spoken to his dad since and because he's not a complete retard, things are okay with him. Not so sure about his mother though. All in all, a lovely day! :|

If any of you guys have any kind of advice on how to deal with this situation we'd be so grateful - please just don't say 'ignore it' or 'get over it' because it is a bit more serious and complex than that.
Let me just add, by the way, that his parents are, instead of helping their son out financially once in a while, expecting me, a 20 year old student, to dip into my savings instead even though they've got a fuckload of money in their own savings.
So yeah. Act like they don't exist? Find sneaky plans to get back at them little by little? Have me punch cuntface's boyfriend in the face (since apparently it's cool for a girl to beat up a guy...:\ )

Cheers guys. Hope you're all doing well :) <3


Pagey & mrcientist
 
Seriously, this girl is a fucking psycho, hell bent on ruining our lives and destroying the family.

Can't emphasize enough how much help would be appreciated, so... Top Tips???
 
elope. if love is all you need fuck the rest of them

Oh man trust me - as soon as I finish my MA in a year and a bit we are OUTTA here. Mostly just need help until then :(

Compleltely ignore and avoid her? I do with more or less all my close family members. Problem solved.

We really have been trying that but unfortunately she's the kind of dick who won't let that happen - tries to steal my friends, tries to get her parents to hate me, she's fucking relentless. I don't want to mess everything up with my in-laws, just her and her cunt boyfriend, which is why it makes everything so much harder to deal with...

P.S. Great to see you around! How you been? <3
 
^ I dunno. Maybe I'm being overly simplistic but I never let shit like that bother me. If people wanna shit stir and bitch let 'em. Anybody who knows the truth will see it for what it is or they probably ain't worth giving much of a shit about either imo.

As I say, perhaps a tad overly simplistic but who wants to get involved in interminable family disputes over fuck all?

And am good thanks, m'dear. Hope and trust all is well in your mutual world too <3

Morning shambles - i hear your yet to hit the wooden hill

Who told you that?!? You been reading my thoughts again?!?

:sus:
 
Sorry for what you've been through, that's terrible. I think you're amazing what you've achieved after going through something like that. That's dreadful xxxx

Can you not get an injunction against her on the grounds she's a complete nutter? Show all the harassing, abusive texts etc????

Evey
 
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Im sure theres plenty of stuff on sleep hygiene on this forum, and I doubt bluelighting from mobile devices while in bed is reccomended

Sorry for hijacking ur thread Pagey, fuck um, prioritise whos most important in this situation, you obviously have 200% backing from mrscientist so id say theres a strong team there ready to navigate the minefield of inlaw bullshit
 
We're about to go to bed so we'll answer the serious and RELEVANT posts when we wake up but please guys can you try not to hijack this thread as it is quite a big issue for us and one that we genuinely need help with so feels a bit shit to see a bunch of new posts expecting help and realise that they've got nothing to do with our OP. Thanks :)
 
She seems jealous and can't face the loss of losing him, so she is blaming you… seemingly. What type of relationship did they have as children?
Did they spend a lot of time together? She is comparing you to her? This is not healthy and needs to be addressed, She needs help.
Luckily the father seems to understand, but she will be in your life unfortunately one way or another. This sounds very problematic. I am sorry you are in this place.
 
I'm with Shambles on this, rise above it, don't let one angry person drag you down to their level and don't let the negativity into your life.
 
Shit Pagey what a ghastly story- not much i can say but obviously dont let the evil cunt get in the bway of you band your fella. People like that always get their comuppence and as they say revenenge is a dish best servrd cold. Be strong and fuck the wankers in your life right off.
all love and strength
B
 
In a way I actually feel sorrybfor this girl. Sounds like she has has some type of mental health issue. If you could go the legal route, maybe get an injunction it may be possible she could get some help for her issues. It sounds like that what she needs. Sounds like she has anger issues n needs to get to the bottom as to why this is the case.

So my advice really is to make it known that her behaviour cannot n will not be tolerated but at the same time get her the help for her issues. Her behaviour is bad but it doesn't necessarily mean that she is a bad person deep down.

I'm sorry for all you're going through it's awful when families fall out. I'm not suggesting you cut her out permanently by suggesting an injunction just to shock, give yourselves space n somehow maybe MrScientist's parents can look into getting her necessary help.

Has she always been this way or is it recently? When she says she's been through worst, are you sure she hasn't n is keeping it from people? I'm in no way defending her - just looking for possible reasons as to why she's acting this way n possible somutions in resolving things.

Of course, there's no excuse for violence, and as you say, if it was a man violently lashing out at a woman there would be outroar. Again there is anger from her - and it needs to be dealt with, trying to find the rout cause.

I hope this doesn't come out wrong, but in abusive relationships like this, be careful how you approach him. She may have manipulated him, brainwashed him or controlling him in other ways ie taking charge of his phone. It's a bit unfair to call him names though. How many females go back to their abusive partner? Love does crazy things to people n so he is more than likely not thinking logically.

If you are concerned for his welfare however, I would call professionals who deal with this n seek advice on the best way to approach him. Victim support or womans aid. I'm not sure the name for men who are in abusive relationships but the basic advice may be similar or they may have a contact for you. Or Google.

Hope this somehow helps. And sorry I can't help more.

Evey
 
Could write an essay here, but it's too public :|

All i can say is get the fuck out of there, the sister seems very unstable and not aware of it, what she said to you is completely unacceptable and super abusive. who says that to a person? sounds like all of you guys need a group session - targeting that specific issue. i hope everything comes out well for you guys.

Act like they don't exist - if they ain't for the real talk with someone professional and don't want to improve your relationship.
 
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