Need help/advice to induct on bupe

[Candust18]

This is my very first post, although I've used this site for many years. My predicament is that I am a pretty heavy H user, was sober for a while then I relapsed on New year's and have been using daily for about 5 months now. I have a prescription for Subutex but the last couple times I tried to induce it went very wrong. I got precipitated withdrawals a couple times and then the last time I waited 20 hours then took 4 mgs and it made me start sweating profusely, gave me bad RLS all over my body and started throwing up. It seems even when I wait 24 hours that I still get sick. I see mixed things on precipitated withdrawal too. My question is if I start with small doses won't I feel bad either way? If I have a big habit and it displaces any thing left on my receptors? I recently became a mommy and I'm wanting to do this for my child, I have a big meeting in two days that I have to be able to function for. My last use was today around 2 pm. Any advice or uplifting would help, just so scared to induct and it go wrong again. Thank you

 

[cj]

20 hours is too soon. Wait 24 hours then start with .5mg. If your ok 30 minutes after the .5 add another .5 and titrate up by .5 every 30 minutes till you fell better or get to 8mg.

Just fold the strip into 8 pieces each piece will be 1 mg then rip the 1mg in half to get .5

 

[Candust18]

20 hours is too soon. Wait 24 hours then start with .5mg. If your ok 30 minutes after the .5 add another .5 and titrate up by .5 every 30 minutes till you fell better or get to 8mg.

Just fold the strip into 8 pieces each piece will be 1 mg then rip the 1mg in half to get .5

It's actually the Subutex pills. I have 8mgs and also 2mgs. But with my tolerance and usage won't starting low make me feel sicker when I start it either way if it's ridding my receptors of everything either way? I'm starting in the morning. Just so scared because of the last several times.

 

[Candust18]

It's actually the Subutex pills. I have 8mgs and also 2mgs. But with my tolerance and usage won't starting low make me feel sicker when I start it either way if it's ridding my receptors of everything either way? I'm starting in the morning. Just so scared because of the last several times.

BTW thank you so much for your response. It means so much!

 

[Chuckrogers]

I'm in My 2nd week and it's a miracle drug, I threw up horribly for 3 days I was taking what I thought was 30 mg oxycodone and it ended up being Fentanyl I hope that you finally get past the sickness because it really changed my life it makes me feel normal if that makes sense

 

[Candust18]

Thank you so much, I definitely get what you mean. It used to work for me in the past Everytime. How many hours did you wait before starting it and how many mgs did you start with if you don't mind me asking?

 

[cj]

No. Ok how do i explain this? Ok a certain dose of bupe will occupy a certain percentage of your receptors. So say for example 8mg will occupy 100% of the receptors. By starting small the bupe will only displace the heroin on a small percentage of your receptors. Then by waiting 30 minutes between doses you give the bupe that displaced the heroin time to fill those now empty receptors. So basically you gradually switch the receptors over. Thats how someone explained it to me anyhow. I just know it works really well.

 

[Chuckrogers]

Thank you so much, I definitely get what you mean. It used to work for me in the past Everytime. How many hours did you wait before starting it and how many mgs did you start with if you don't mind me asking?

I waited 36 hours I do 8 million mg twice a day

 

[Lucy20]

Look into micro dosing suboxone, i was on methadone and switched pain free. They micro dose you subs while cutting back heroin or methadone.
Its Its fairly new but worked for me and im happy to say im now off the subs.
There's a thread on the Burmese method if you want to check it out.
Good luck, its not easy but soo worth it

 

[Candust18]

Look into micro dosing suboxone, i was on methadone and switched pain free. They micro dose you subs while cutting back heroin or methadone.
Its Its fairly new but worked for me and im happy to say im now off the subs.
There's a thread on the Burmese method if you want to check it out.
Good luck, its not easy but soo worth it

I'm sorry it took me so long to respond....I'm still been struggling with my situation. I've been scarred from the last PW that I'm scared to even try and induct again.....but I don't have a choice, it's sub or cold turkey. But thank you so very much for responding, I'm going to attempt this in the morning, your explanation was spot on, it was definitely what I needed. Thank you so much!

 

[Candust18]

I'm sorry it took me so long to respond....I'm still been struggling with my situation. I've been scarred from the last PW that I'm scared to even try and induct again.....but I don't have a choice, it's sub or cold turkey. But thank you so very much for responding, I'm going to attempt this in the morning, your explanation was spot on, it was definitely what I needed. Thank you so much!

No. Ok how do i explain this? Ok a certain dose of bupe will occupy a certain percentage of your receptors. So say for example 8mg will occupy 100% of the receptors. By starting small the bupe will only displace the heroin on a small percentage of your receptors. Then by waiting 30 minutes between doses you give the bupe that displaced the heroin time to fill those now empty receptors. So basically you gradually switch the receptors over. Thats how someone explained it to me anyhow. I just know it works really well.

I replied to the wrong post.......but I said....
I'm sorry it took me so long to respond....I'm still been struggling with my situation. I've been scarred from the last PW that I'm scared to even try and induct again.....but I don't have a choice, it's sub or cold turkey. But thank you so very much for responding, I'm going to attempt this in the morning, your explanation was spot on, it was definitely what I needed. Thank you so much!

 

[cj]

If you go really slow and listen to your body it will work out fine